Wanda, about the link to Bills Creek: Please go ahead and do a link w/o a banner. My program does not make very good looking banners and I do not like the colors. Thank you. Would you like to know how I send out small amounts of email with a message about visiting my web site? Would you like to know how Ike's Rollerskate Outlet got over 110 people to sign up for his email mailing list? How about the way Ike got 2,000 people to visit his web site in approx. 75 days? Some of the ways were expensive...some inexpensive but labor intensive. I am currently using a new method which I will show Ike some time next week. As a matter of fact, the first message I sent you this week was a canned message that only took about five seconds to set up and then emai to you. My testing of this method had increased my hits by about 50 in a three day peroid of time (me estimate) although I cannot say for sure because people are hitting the site via the search engines. Let me know and my sercets, if there is such a thing, will be disclosed. Cecil