Hi, I agree with Steve. It is not hard to come up with a large number of names after eight or more generations. Most of what Don Norman has are descendants of Joel and the rest are descendants of his brother Benjamin. I have 2,250 descendants of Joel who had 2 sons and Benjamin had 8 sons so has a much larger tree of descendants that I am working on. I would like to invite everyone to look at the Hamrick web site. If you find errors or see your family has been omitted, please send me your data. It is intended to be a reference site where you can see the relationship you have to other Hamrick's and possibly find missing cousins. http://www.cmpu.net/public/jmckinny J R