Dear Patsy, Aren't you being a little, how do I put this, harsh? Caroline wrote, I think, in response to J R's message where he wrote, and I quote: Joel testified in court to document the military service of Benjamin. "I was at home when Benjamin returned from service to marry. He was married in our father's house". Paraphrased. The exact wording can probably be found in Benjamin's Pension Application along with other testimony if you wish to write for it. Joel apparently thought he was Benjamin's brother and may have been best man at the weeding although he did not testify to it. End of quote. Like Caroline, my first thought was just what was J R quoting from (that he put in quotes but the word "paraphrased" after). And J R suggested that anyone interested in the exact working should request a copy of Benjamin's pension application. And from the way I read Caroline's message, that's all she was doing....asking if anyone had a copy of the pension application with the exact wording. But, Patsy, you are right. You have no reason to share your copy. I'm sure no one on the list has ever shared any information with you. It's times like these that make me almost glad I can't trace my husband's HAMRICK line back to West Virginia! Maybe it's a good thing they are stuck in Georgia <G>. To Tressie, J R, et al, thank you for being so willing to share with those of us who do not have the resources (and in some of our cases, time) to discover and analyze all the data available. Some of us have never seen the books of Charles T. Doddrill, Mayme Hamrick, S. C. Jones, Les Hamrick, Jr., or Hamrick Tales. By the same token, some of us have been totally confused by the errors (intentional or not) found in the above-mentioned books. Once again I will ask if anyone has ever found any evidence (or proof or even a hard clue) that Robert S. HAMRICK had a middle name of Signor (I have never found a document with this middle name but family tradition is firm about this!) or that his mother's maiden name was Margaret SIGNAR. To refresh everyone's memory, Robert S. was born 19 Oct 1800 and died after the 1850 census but before the 1860 census. He married Margaret Elizabeth (Betsy) SMITH on 27 Jun 1821 in Jasper County, GA. All indications are that his father was James HAM(B)RICK who died leaving a Coweta County, GA will dated May 1834. Robert S. was the brother of Seaburn, Susan, Harrison, Eliza, Maria, Nancy, Martha, and James. I would like to suggest that all of us (including and especially me), since we seem to have a common goal, strive to exercise a little tact in the year 2000. Caroline's message could have been a tad more tactful. Patsy's message, as I've already stated, seemed a little harsh. And mine, of course, is more sarcastic than I originally intended. Incidently, "in our father's house" could have meant that Joel was married in a church - not necessarily that Joel and Benjamin were brothers. That's a common southern expression - although we do tend to capitalize the "f" in Father in that case. I don't know about the West Virginia Hamricks, but many of the Georgia Hamricks were Baptist (to include our Robert S. who was a Baptist preacher) - and that's an expression many of my Baptist friends and relatives use. Pat motesp@hiwaay.net At 09:28 PM 1/1/00 -0800, you wrote: >Caroline, > >I don't have the habit of giving out information that I can't back up. I >do have a copy of the pension papers but if a person don't believe what I >said - why would I share my copy? >Ask some one that you trust and applaud for integrity. >I am sure some of these experts on Hamrick history will have the >document laying around. >Patsy > >On Sat, 01 Jan 2000 22:59:49 -0500 WVHAMRICK <WVHAMRICK@prodigy.net> >writes: >> First, and foremost, as old Maw & Paw Hamrick used to say, "If you >> don't >> have nothing good to day about anybody, don't say nothing at all." >> >> I do have something to say: I purchased the books of Charles T. >> Doddrill, Mayme Hamrick, S. C. Jones, Les Hamrick, Jr., Hamrick >> Tales >> publications, census records, legal documents, etc., containing >> Hamrick >> information. I'm feel very fortunate that I did. >> >> I realize it is fairly easy to keep track of one's own line of >> Hamricks >> but it becomes extremely complex to sort out individuals as you >> branch >> out and "unintentional" errors do occur. >> >> I applaud the above persons, as well as folks like J. R. McKinney >> and >> Tressie Neely, who share their data in an attempt to enhance our >> Hamrick >> heritage research and appreciate the hard work they have done. >> >> Now, with all of that said... >> Does anyone have a copy of the Benjamin Hamrick's pension papers. I >> am >> seeking a copy of the paper to see the exact wording where Joel >> Hamrick >> was mentioned. >> >> Thanks in advance for any help. >> >> Caroline >> WVHAMRICK@prodigy.net >> > > >