Good Morning: JR, I have most certainly received your comments as well as those others who took the time to write. Youll have to bear with me if I do not respond as quickly as you might like. In addition to other aspects of living, Im researching several other names and Hamrick is not really top priority. At the moment, Im reflecting on life in the year 2000. As an eighteen year old serving in the Regular United States Navy, my shipmates and I discussed the possibility of living until the next century, and what it might be like. Dont know about the others but I made it to 2000 and Im proud to be here. Back to the comments. I appreciate them, even the references to membership in the Flat Earth Society. Thank you all for the information youve passed along. Everything helps. It would unrealistic to think that everything we come across is error free. We dont know if written records were recorded correctly. We dont know if persons reading and transcribing records have interpreted them accurately. With very little information about the stones at the Street Hamrick home place, I have no way of knowing whether they are recent or have been in place many years, or who placed them there. I did notice that the monument to Patrick Hamrick was erected in September 1999. It seems to echo exactly what you preach. Was it built by supporting members of this list? ( only joking) Returning to the regurgitation of bad genealogy, if Patrick Hamrick was the first, where are all the Patrick Hamricks? If Moses Richard did not exist, why did Price Hamrick have sons named Moses and Richard? If Prices father was Jeremiah, why dont we see a son named Jeremiah? Why are there so many George Hamricks both laying down and walking around? (These irritants, Patrick supporters, just wont go away, will they?) >From available records there apparently was a ship named Snow Lowther and it came to Philadelphia in 1731 with a load of Germans, among whom was a man named Hans Jeurg Hamerich. He apparently married another German named Nancy Cook. They likely had children. What happened to those children? Did they just vanish? How did the folks in North Carolina know about Moses Richard and Hans George? Were they just ignorant hillbillies who knew nothing? Did they just pull names out of thin air so as to confuse subsequent generations? Did they go so far as to erect phony tombstones? On the LDS site, upon entering the name Patrick Hamrick, one file says he was the son of Hans George. Ironic, huh? After I sent my original message to the list, I received a couple of messages from people who said they no longer send anything to the list because they had been put down for whatever dissenting opinions they expressed. That isnt nice, Patrick descendants. Even if 95% of the list supports the Patrick notion, that doesnt make it correct. Anyway, folks, I dont have all the answers and I dont think you do, either. Hopefully, well learn more. Maybe something that will satisfy everybody. Bill Davenport