Steve and others, I agree with Steve's data on the first two generations. I was missing that Patrick Jr was born in Richmond Co, Va. and had him born in Prince William or King George. Sarah Hamrick asked you about Joseph who left Va. Elsewhere you had that Joseph moved to Bedford Co, Va; Franklin Co, Va; Wilkes Co, NC; and on to Greene Co, Ga where he died. While he was in Franklin Co, Va he and his son Joseph were probably recorded at the same time. I also agree with you and others that we should accept what you have presented as the "Gospel" for now and work on the third generation on down and try to discover new data on grandchildren and their descendants. That is basically what I am trying to do with the Hamrick web page. Put down the best current descendants and asking anyone who finds new data to contact me and help change it. I need a lot of help. J R J R