If Mr. Bridges would have paid attention to my message, he would have seen that I said his BROTHER'S line. Benjamin (who arried Mary Sias) is the brother of Patrick Jr. (brothers Benjamin, Jilson, Robert, Jeremiah, James , etc. ). If we are talking about the same Patrick Jr., then Benjamin's grandson (the one who was at Valley Forge) moved to West Virginia. If I am wrong -- and I do care by the way -- then let me know and accept my apologies. Jerry G Collins Jerry G Collins