It seems that it might be useful if we could level set everyone on the first and second generations of the HAMRICK Family (based upon known documentation except certain noteable works of partial fiction). Below is the way I view the HAMRICK family and where they moved to for the first two generations. If anyone has documentation that would change any of this, I would appreciate a copy so I can re-evaluate my views. GENERATION 1: Patrick HAMRICK (to be called Patrick HAMRICK Senior) born circa 1684 and arrived in Virginia circa 1700. Married Margaret INGLES, daughter of Robert & Sarah INGLES, most likely in Richmond County, Virginia circa 1712-1714. Margaret's death is unknown. She was last proven to be alive in 1734. Patrick HAMRICK Senior died in Prince William County, Virginia in 1764. GENERATION 2: The order of the first three sons is open to speculation as they seem to be close in age. There is conflicting data as to the order, and this is my "best guess": 1. Patrick HAMRICK (to be called Patrick HAMRICK Junior) born circa 1714-5 in Richmond County, Virginia. Wife unknown. Apparently stayed in present day Virginia, and died in Prince William County in 1780's. Patrick Jr. appears to have been the father of several children, many of whom left Virginia. 2. James HAMRICK (to be called James HAMRICK Senior) born circa 1715-17 in King George County, Virginia. Married Alice MATHIS. Stayed in present day Virginia and died in 1778 in Fauquier County, Virginia. James Sr. appears to have been the father of several children, most of whom left Virginia. 3. Robert HAMRICK born circa 1717-9 in King George County, Virginia. Wife named Elizabeth. Maiden name unknown although there is speculation it was STONE, but that cannot be proven at this time. Robert apparently stayed in present day Virginia and died in 1757 in Prince William County, Virginia. Despite is age, Robert apparently married late in life, and has only one known child, a daughter. His daughter, and perhaps his widow, apparently left Virginia. There is an obvious gap in the age of the male children of 6-8 years where it is likely they had some daughters.. at least one who appears to have married James BRIDGES.. and maybe a child or two who died at, or closely after, birth. There is room for three or four children before the next son who lived to be an adult... 7. Benjamin HAMRICK (to be called Benjamin HAMRICK Senior) was born circa 1727-8 in King George County, Virginia. His age can be pinned down because he was still a minor tithable in 1747 when he was recorded with his father. He married Mary SEIRS/SIAS, daugher of John SIAS/SEIRS. Benjamin Sr. apparently stayed in present day Virginia, and died in the mid 1790's in Fauquier County, Virginia. Benjamin Sr. had a large family, and most of them left present day Virginia. 8. John HAMRICK was born circa 1730 in King George County, Virginia. His age can be estimated first by the fact that he was not listed as a tithable in 1747. This means he was under the age of 17, but he must have been very close. John married Sarah (maiden name unknown). John apparently stayed in present day Virginia, and died in 1757 in Prince William County, Virginia. John had only three known children which is consistent with his age and death. His son left Virginia and the disposition of his daughters is unknown. 9. Joseph HAMRICK (to be called Joseph HAMRICK Senior) was the youngest male child. He was born circa 1731 as he too was not listed as a tithable in 1747, and appears to be younger than John. Joseph was old enough to have owned property in the early 1750's so he has to have been born very close to this time frame. He married Margaret, maiden name unknown. Joseph Sr. appears to be the only son of Patrick Sr. and Margaret who actually left present day Virginia. As the youngest, he was not that much older than the sons of his older brothers, and many of them may have left together. The THIRD GENERATION is obviously the hardest as it requires us to tie the grandchildren of Patrick HAMRICK Senior and Margaret INGLES to the right parents. If anyone has documents that might disprove any of the above, I would love a copy. At the risk of offending certain people and I apologize upfront, I do NOT consider the Hamrick Generations by S. C. Jones, or the new books by Joyce Moody as proof. As new information is uncovered, it may be necessary to modify the above so all new documentation is greatly appreciated. Have fun shooting holes at it..... If you agree with this version, say so... If you disagree with this version, say so... then tell us why. If we all compare notes, maybe we can come to a concensus, or maybe I just got too close to my son's car model when he was using the glue... Steven A. Bridges [email protected]