Kathy, Thank you for your reply. It is the typical feeling of the German Hamricks in North Carolina. However I do not believe all the NC Hamricks remember it as you have described prior to the publication of S C's book. After publication it became part of the family genealogy of everyone in North Carolina. Greenberry "Berry" Hamrick printed a book of genealogy which consisted of a large number of family group sheets which represented many of the same persons, with dates, that S C Jones reported. In the "Hamricks of Past and Present 1731-1975" he repeated the Hans George story and tried to document as many Hamricks as he could with dates. The earliest Hamrick he could document was Samuel and reported where he was buried. All the others were historical only. In the 15 years since his publication much has been found about Patrick Hamrick and his descendants but no new data about Hans George and his first two generations. I think you may have misunderstood something I said earlier that Hans George and Moses Richard were descendants of Patrick. What I said was that S C Jones Genealogy could be corrected by changing "Hans George" to "Patrick" and "Moses Richard" to "James", not that they were the same people. The third generation of S C Jones was Samuel and Mary Hamrick, first cousins. This is true in both versions of the Hamrick genealogy. Samuel was a son of James and Mary was a daughter of Robert, both sons of Patrick Sr. On page 202 after his chapter 593, S C says "Benjamin Hamrick, who came from Ireland, had two brothers who came with him. Their names were Robert and Charles. They all served in the Revolutionary War and lived to be very old men. We now are reasonably sure that these three brothers from Ireland were sons of Patrick Hamrick Jr and also first cousins of Samuel and Mary Hamrick. Patrick Jr was a brother to James and Robert. It is obvious that first cousins from Germany would not be compatible with first cousins from Ireland. In other parts of the country the Hamricks relate their ancestry back to Patrick of Ireland. Patrick Jr, Jeremiah, and Benjamin Sr descendants all have stories of the Irish Patrick and only the descendants of James are mixed up in the Story of Hans George due to S C Jones' publication. I think David is correct, right story, wrong family except there is not much right about the story. I know this will not change your mind about your German ancestry but just put in a response to keep a little weight on the other side of the see-saw. J R David - I'm descended from Rutherford/Cleveland County Hamricks, and I can tell you that my grandparents firmly believed they were descended from German immigrants (Hans George). This wasn't a belief they picked up from whatever contact they had with SC Jones, who was a distant cousin, but rather family knowledge passed down from their parents and grandparents. Knowing my family, I trust from the stories passed down from generation to generation, had there been a link back to Ireland on the Hamrick side of our family, it would have been passed on in family stories. The children of Hans George that came to North Carolina per my family's records were George (m. Susanna Blanton) and Moses Richard (m. Mary Bridges). I think both George and Moses Richard have been said to be descendants of Patrick by others on this list - if there is anyone who can point me to some documentation (other than just a web site reference) on this I would be most interested. Thanks! Kathy