Pat Motes, I have two problems. 1. When I fell I had a severe head injury and at times I do not compute very well. 2. I have a computer that does not tell me all that it knows. All this you see under sources is things it knows but will not tell me. I cannot print it out and read myself but it will send it to you. FAMILY GROUP RECORD FOR JAMES HAMRICK [JR]/PRECILLA MISSING - HUSBAND James Hamrick [Jr]-3580 ------------------------------------------------------------- BIRTH: Est 1744 PLACE: ,Prince William,VA CHR.: PLACE: MAR.: Est 1764 PLACE: DEATH: 28 Apl 1808 PLACE: ,Rutherford,NC BURIAL: PLACE: FATHER: James Hamrick [Sr]-7 MOTHER: Alice Mathis-3578 OTHER WIVES: =============================================== WIFE Precilla Missing-3581 ---------------------------------------------------------- PLACE: CHR.: PLACE: DEATH: PLACE: BURIAL: PLACE: FATHER: MOTHER: OTHER HUSBANDS: ============================================================ CHILDREN ============================================================ 1. NAME: William Hamrick-31089 Parent Link Type: (B) --- BIRTH: 1774 PLACE: ,,VA B: M CHR.: PLACE: E: MAR.: PLACE: SS: DEATH: PLACE: SP: BURIAL: PLACE: SPOUSE: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------- 2. NAME: Rebecca Sally Hamrick-7326 -- BIRTH: 5 Oct 1776 PLACE: ,,VA F CHR.: PLACE: MAR.: Abt 1829 PLACE: DEATH: 10 May 1865 PLACE: BURIAL: PLACE: SPOUSE: Samuel "Mad" Bridges-3833 --------------------------------------- 3. NAME: Elizabeth Hamrick-8868 --- BIRTH: 1778 PLACE: ,,VA F CHR.: PLACE: MAR.: PLACE: DEATH: PLACE: BURIAL: PLACE: SPOUSE: Samuel Bridges-8867 -------------------------------------------------------- 4. NAME: Mary "Molly" Hamrick-6807 -- BIRTH: Abt 1772 PLACE: ,,VA F CHR.: PLACE: MAR.: Abt 1789 PLACE: DEATH: PLACE: BURIAL: PLACE: SPOUSE: Thomas Hardin-6808 ----------------------------------------------------------- 5. NAME: George Hamrick-6605 --- BIRTH: 20 Jan 1781 PLACE: ,Rutherford,NC M CHR.: PLACE: MAR.: 23 Sep 1801 PLACE: ,Rutherford,NC DEATH: Est 1847 PLACE: BURIAL: PLACE: SPOUSE: Phoebe Wright-6596 ----------------------------------------------------------- 6. NAME: Ann Hamrick-31090 --- BIRTH: 1803 PLACE: ,Rutherford,NC F CHR.: PLACE: MAR.: PLACE: DEATH: PLACE: BURIAL: PLACE: SPOUSE: ============================================================ Records of: J R Mckinney 1600 Serenade Lane Richardson, Tx 75081-4623 USA 972-680-3341 Parent Link Types: (B)=Biological, (A)=Adopted, (G)=Guardian, FAMILY GROUP RECORD FOR JAMES HAMRICK [JR]/PRECILLA MISSING - ============================================================ HUSBAND James Hamrick [Jr]-3580 WIFE Precilla Missing-3581 ============================================================ CHILDREN (continued) ============================================================ 7. NAME: Susannah Hamrick-9117 -- BIRTH: 22 May 1786 PLACE: ,,VA F CHR.: PLACE: MAR.: PLACE: DEATH: 10 May 1865 PLACE: ,Rutherford,NC BURIAL: PLACE:Concord Bapt Ch Cem,Bostic,Rutherford,NC SPOUSE: Samuel Harrill-9395 MRIN: 2797 ============================================================ HUSBAND James Hamrick [Jr]-3580 SOURCES: BIRTH: (See source comments). DEATH: (See source comments). WIFE Precilla Missing-3581 NOTES: 28 Apl 1808. I Pricilla Hamrick, being sick in body but of sound mind and memory. First: I give to my son Williwm Hamrick $15.00, also I give to my daughter Jenny $5.00. I also give to my daughter Rebecca $5.00. Then an equal division of the whole estate of Jame Hambrick my dec'd husband among all my childran. Molly Hardin, Susannah Harrold, Sally Bridges, George Hamrick, and Ann Hamrick, Eliza Hamrick, Jenny Hamridk, William Hamrick, Rebecca Hamrick, and Jesse Bridges, my grandson. Samuel Hamrick and George Hamrick executors. Witness: Berry Hicks, Willis Johnson Signed. Priscilla X Hamrick 1 Dec 1785 Enoch Hamrick sold to James Hamrick land on both sides of Shoal Creek adjoining Henry Wright. Witnesses were; George Blanton, Abednego Adams. CHILD 1 William Hamrick-31089 CHILD 2 Rebecca Sally Hamrick-7326 SOURCES: LIFE: S.C. Jones, Shelby, NC. "The Hamrick Generations - Being a Genealogy of the Hamrick Family". Raleigh, NC: Edwards & Broughton Printing Co., 1920. Page 169. Chapter 435. Fourth Generation.. S.C. Jones, Shelby, NC. "The Hamrick Generations - Being a Genealogy of the Hamrick Family". Raleigh, NC: Edwards & Broughton Printing Co., 1920. Page 110. Chapter 170. Fourth Generation.. S.C. Jones, Shelby, NC. "The Hamrick Generations - Being a Genealogy of the Hamrick Family". Raleigh, NC: Edwards & Broughton Printing Co., 1920. Page 110-111. Chapter 171. Fifth Generation.. S.C. Jones, Shelby, NC. "The Hamrick Generations - Being a Genealogy of the Hamrick Family". Raleigh, NC: Edwards & Broughton Printing Co., 1920. Page 169. Chapter 435. Fourth Generation.. CHILD 3 Elizabeth Hamrick-8868 SOURCES: LIFE: S.C. Jones, Shelby, NC. "The Hamrick Generations - Being a Genealogy of the Hamrick Family". Raleigh, NC: Edwards & Broughton Printing Co., 1920. Page 169. Chapter 435. Fourth Generation.. S.C. Jones, Shelby, NC. "The Hamrick Generations - Being a Genealogy of the Hamrick Family". Raleigh, NC: Edwards & Broughton Printing Co., 1920. Page 187, Chapter 524, Fifth Generation.. CHILD 4 Mary "Molly" Hamrick-6807 CHILD 5 George Hamrick-6605 OTHER MARRIAGES: Annie Martin-6734 (MRIN:3166) Married: Est 1849 Thickity Mountain,Forsyth,NC CHILD 6 Ann Hamrick-31090 CHILD 7 Susannah Hamrick-9117 SOURCES: LIFE: S.C. Jones, Shelby, NC. "The Hamrick Generations - Being a Genealogy of the Hamrick Family". Raleigh, NC: Edwards & Broughton Printing Co., 1920. Page 169. Chapter 435. Fourth Generation.. S.C. Jones, Shelby, NC. "The Hamrick Generations - Being a Genealogy of the Hamrick Family". Raleigh, NC: Edwards & Broughton Printing Co., 1920. Page 169. Chapter 436. Fifth Generation.. ============================================================ BIRTH: Bill Floyd. TYPE: Web Site Cleveland County Cemetery Survey URL: http://www.rfci.net/wdfloyd/Cemetery/index.html. Concord Baptist Church Cemetery, Rutherford County, NC. DEATH: Bill Floyd. TYPE: Web Site Cleveland County Cemetery Survey URL: http://www.rfci.net/wdfloyd/Cemetery/index.html. Concord Baptist Church Cemetery, Rutherford County, NC. BURIAL: Bill Floyd. TYPE: Web Site Cleveland County Cemetery Survey URL: http://www.rfci.net/wdfloyd/Cemetery/index.html. Concord Baptist Church Cemetery, Rutherford County, NC. -----Original Message----- From: motesp@hiwaay.net [mailto:motesp@hiwaay.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 3:12 PM To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HAMRICK-L] James & Susanna Now you have me really confused. At 02:53 PM 12/8/99 -0600, you wrote: <snip> >James Ham(b)rick and Susanna were living in Rutherford, <snip> >In 1790 he <snip? had one boy and a wife >with three girls, and one older female. > >In 1800 he had a son 16-26, probably William, a girl 0-10, >2 girls 10-16, his wife, and an older woman over 45 >perhaps his wife's mother. <snip> >Since the 1800 census accounts for only three girls and >a boy probably William, Jenny, Molly, and Rebecca; I would >think George , Ann, and Susanna were born after 1800. >I have William no birthrate about 1724 >I have Sally birthdate 5 Oct 1776 >I have Elizabeth no birthdate about 1778 >I have Mary no birthdate about 1772 >I have George 20 Jan 1781 >I have Ann no Birthdate about 1783 >I have Susannah 22 May 1786 You say that in 1790 he has a wife, one son and three daughters? In 1800 he has a wife, a son, and three daughters? Okay, William would have been 66 in 1790 and 76 in 1800 (based on the above birth date; I hope that's a typo). Sally would have been 13 (on 1 Jan) in 1790 and 23 in 1800. When did she marry? Elizabeth would have been 11 or 12 in 1790 and 21/22 in 1800. When did she marry? Mary would have been 18 in 1790 and 28 in 1800. George would have been 9 and 19. Ann would have been 7 and 17. Susannah would have been just under 4 and just under 14. In all probability, Susannah would have still been living at home in 1800. Quite likely Ann was also still at home in 1800. And it's very possible that George was also home still at age 19 (although that one is iffy). Now the part that really confused me. If you have a date of birth for George of 20 Jan 1781, why would you write that he was born after 1800? If Susannah was born 22 May 1786, did she die and another daughter was born after 1800 and named Susanna (without the "h")? And if James is married to Susanna, who on earth is Pricilla - a second wife? Like I said, I'm really, really confused by this. Are you saying that someone somewhere made up some of the birthdates? I truly don't understand! Pat motesp@hiwaay.net