Barbara, good job, keep up the good work. My grandmother was a Hamrick from Daniel Hamrick, on back to Patrick Sr. I have been working on this for two years and I love it when I hit on a new clue. My Hamricks were in Fauquier County, Va to Webster County , WV to southern Ohio. Char

For those of you who have been following along, I have been trying very hard to figure out just who my great-grandfather's parents were....I just got another big clue today. His death certificate arrived, signed by my grandfather. My great-grandfather, James Battles Hamrick's father was, in fact, according to my grandfather, a John Warren Hamrick. Unfortunately, his mother was listed as "unknown"....she has always been the true mystery... Now, I just have to figure out who the heck John Warren is, and why James Battles ended up living with Hiram G. Hambrick in Clarke Co. in 1860. I'm so happy though just to have something new to go on. I also got my great-grandmother's death cert., and now, finally know where the "Fords" fit into my family tree. It's been a good day. Barbara L. Hamrick BLHamrick@aol.com

I got this off the same Kansas List. Lovetra WHAT IS A VET? Some veterans bear visible signs of their service: a missing limb, a Jagged scar, a certain look in the eye. Others may carry the evidence inside them: a pin holding a bone together, a piece of shrapnel in the leg - or perhaps another sort of inner steel: The soul's ally forged in the refinery of adversity. Except in parades, however, the men and women who have kept America safe Wear no badge or emblem. You can't tell a vet just by looking. What is a vet? He is the cop on the beat who spent six months in Saudi Arabia sweating two gallons a day making sure the armored personnel carriers didn't run out of fuel. He is the barroom loudmouth, dumber than five wooden planks, whose overgrown frat-boy behavior is outweighed a hundred times in the cosmic scales by four hours of exquisite bravery near the 38th parallel. She or he is the nurse who fought against futility and went to sleep sobbing every night for two solid years in Da Nang. He is the POW who went away one person and came back another - or didn't come back AT ALL. He is the Quantico drill instructor who has never seen combat - but has saved countless lives by turning slouchy, no-account rednecks and gang members into Marines, and teaching them to watch each other's backs. He is the parade - riding Legionnaire who pins on his ribbons and medals with a prosthetic hand. He is the career quartermaster who watches the ribbons and medals pass him by. He is the three anonymous heroes in The Tomb Of The Unknowns, whose presence at the Arlington National Cemetery must forever preserve the memory of all the anonymous heroes whose valor dies unrecognized with them on the battlefield or in the ocean's sunless deep. He is the old guy bagging groceries at the supermarket - palsied now and aggravatingly slow - who helped liberate a Nazi death camp and who wishes all day long that his wife were still alive to hold him when the nightmares come. He is an ordinary and yet an extraordinary human being - a person who offered some of his life's most vital years in the service of his country, and who sacrificed his ambitions so others would not have to sacrifice theirs. He is a soldier and a savior and a sword against the darkness, and he is nothing more than the finest, greatest testimony on behalf of the finest, greatest nation ever known. So remember, each time you see someone who has served our country, just lean over and say Thank You. That's all most people need, and in most cases it will mean more than any medals they could have been awarded or were awarded. Two little words that mean a lot, "THANK YOU". Remember November 11th is Veterans Day

I just copied this off a Kansas research list I am on. Thought you folks might enjoy it! 'Twas The Nite Before Christmas 'TWAS THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS, HE LIVED ALL ALONE, IN A ONE BEDROOM HOUSE MADE OF PLASTER AND STONE. I HAD COME DOWN THE CHIMNEY WITH PRESENTS TO GIVE, AND TO SEE JUST WHO IN THIS HOME DID LIVE. I LOOKED ALL ABOUT, A STRANGE SIGHT I DID SEE, NO TINSEL, NO PRESENTS, NOT EVEN A TREE. NO STOCKING BY MANTLE, JUST BOOTS FILLED WITH SAND, ON THE WALL HUNG PICTURES OF FAR DISTANT LANDS. WITH MEDALS AND BADGES, AWARDS OF ALL KINDS, A SOBER THOUGHT CAME THROUGH MY MIND. FOR THIS HOUSE WAS DIFFERENT, IT WAS DARK AND DREARY, FOUND THE HOME OF A SOLDIER, ONCE I COULD SEE CLEARLY. THE SOLDIER LAY SLEEPING, SILENT, ALONE, CURLED UP ON THE FLOOR IN THIS ONE BEDROOM HOME. THE FACE WAS SO GENTLE, THE ROOM IN SUCH DISORDER, NOT HOW I PICTURED A UNITED STATES SOLDIER. WAS THIS THE HERO OF WHOM I'D JUST READ? CURLED UP ON A PONCHO, THE FLOOR FOR A BED? I REALIZED THE FAMILIES THAT I SAW THIS NIGHT, OWED THEIR LIVES TO THESE SOLDIERS WHO WERE WILLING TO FIGHT. SOON ROUND THE WORLD,THE CHILDREN WOULD PLAY, AND GROWNUPS WOULD CELEBRATE A BRIGHT CHRISTMAS DAY. THEY ALL ENJOYED FREEDOM EACH MONTH OF THE YEAR, BECAUSE OF THE SOLDIERS, LIKE THE ONE LYING HERE. I COULDN'T HELP WONDER HOW MANY LAY ALONE, ON A COLD CHRISTMAS EVE IN A LAND FAR FROM HOME. THE VERY THOUGHT BROUGHT A TEAR TO MY EYE, I DROPPED TO MY KNEES AND STARTED TO CRY. THE SOLDIER AWAKENED AND I HEARD A ROUGH VOICE,"SANTA DON'T CRY, THIS LIFE IS MY CHOICE;I FIGHT FOR FREEDOM,I DON'T ASK FOR MORE, MY LIFE IS MY GOD, MY COUNTRY, MY CORPS."THE SOLDIER ROLLED OVER AND DRIFTED TO SLEEP, I COULDN'T CONTROL IT, I CONTINUED TO WEEP. I KEPT WATCH FOR HOURS, SO SILENT AND STILL AND WE BOTH SHIVERED FROM THE COLD NIGHT'S CHILL. I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE ON THAT COLD, DARK, NIGHT, THIS GUARDIAN OF HONOR SO WILLING TO FIGHT. THEN THE SOLDIER ROLLED OVER, WITH A VOICE SOFT AND PURE, WHISPERED, "CARRY ON SANTA,IT'S CHRISTMAS DAY, ALL IS SECURE." ONE LOOK AT MY WATCH, AND I KNEW HE WAS RIGHT. "MERRY CHRISTMAS MY FRIEND, AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT." This poem was written by a Marine stationed in Okinawa Japan. The following is his request. I think it is reasonable.... PLEASE. Would you do me the kind favor of sending this to as many people as you can? Christmas will be coming soon and some credit is due to our U.S. service men and women for our being able to celebrate these festivities.Let's try in this small way to pay a tiny bit of what we owe. Make people stop and think of our heroes, living and dead, who sacrificed themselves for us. Please, do your small part to plant this small seed.

Brian, I would like to trade data with you. I have the ancestors of Eli Henderson Hamrick m Charley Ann Wiley but I do not have any dates or locations on them or none of their descendants. If you will look at the worldconnect site below you can see what data I have on their ancestors. Feel free to use whatever you wish. Thanks, J R Hamrick Hambrick Genealogy at: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com or http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hamrick

I'm a first timer here so I'm not familiar with posting protocall. If I'm out of line nudge me back. I watched the weeks earlier exchange about crooked pinkies and our family has straight ones just for the record so i hope i won't be voted out. He He He. I am a Hamrick and decendant of Hamrick's in NC/SC. I have minimal info on and up to my Great-Great Grandparents Eli Henderson Hamrick and Charsley Ann Wiley from somewhere around Blackburg SC. If anyone has additional info on this line it would be helpful and interesting. Sincerely, Brien Hamrick

This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_4bcc.175f.5fe4 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This article is very appropriate for Veterans Day on November 11th. Patsy WHAT IS A VET? Some veterans bear visible signs of their service: a missing limb, a Jagged scar, a certain look in the eye. Others may carry the evidence inside them: a pin holding a bone together, a piece of shrapnel in the leg - or perhaps another sort of inner steel: The soul's ally forged in the refinery of adversity. Except in parades, however, the men and women who have kept America safe Wear no badge or emblem. You can't tell a vet just by looking. What is a vet? He is the cop on the beat who spent six months in Saudi Arabia sweating two gallons a day making sure the armored personnel carriers didn't run out of fuel. He is the barroom loudmouth, dumber than five wooden planks, whose overgrown frat-boy behavior is outweighed a hundred times in the cosmic scales by four hours of exquisite bravery near the 38th parallel. She or he is the nurse who fought against futility and went to sleep sobbing every night for two solid years in Da Nang. He is the POW who went away one person and came back another - or didn't come back AT ALL. He is the Quantico drill instructor who has never seen combat - but has saved countless lives by turning slouchy, no-account rednecks and gang members into Marines, and teaching them to watch each other's backs. He is the parade - riding Legionnaire who pins on his ribbons and medals with a prosthetic hand. He is the career quartermaster who watches the ribbons and medals pass him by. He is the three anonymous heroes in The Tomb Of The Unknowns, whose presence at the Arlington National Cemetery must forever preserve the memory of all the anonymous heroes whose valor dies unrecognized with them on the battlefield or in the ocean's sunless deep. He is the old guy bagging groceries at the supermarket - palsied now and aggravatingly slow - who helped liberate a Nazi death camp and who wishes all day long that his wife were still alive to hold him when the nightmares come. He is an ordinary and yet an extraordinary human being - a person who offered some of his life's most vital years in the service of his country, and who sacrificed his ambitions so others would not have to sacrifice theirs. He is a soldier and a savior and a sword against the darkness, and he is nothing more than the finest, greatest testimony on behalf of the finest, greatest nation ever known. So remember, each time you see someone who has served our country, just lean over and say Thank You. That's all most people need, and in most cases it will mean more than any medals they could have been awarded or were awarded. Two little words that mean a lot, "THANK YOU". Remember November 11th is Veterans Day Read the "The Greatest Generation" by Tom Brokaw to gain a sense of recent history and world changing significance of your father's generation which can be found no where else. ----__JNP_000_4bcc.175f.5fe4 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From: NAJ34@aol.com To: CMDuffe@aol.com Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 20:15:02 EST Subject: Fwd: Your Father Message-ID: <0.75c5d258.25523816@aol.com> X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=part2_0.3d8f0906.25523816_boundary Full-Name: NAJ34 Return-path: NAJ34@aol.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --part2_0.3d8f0906.25523816_boundary Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this was sent to me by an old friend of my dad's - i thought you might like reading it, too. maybe the dar sis's would like a gander.. naj :) p.s. i'm going to be in edmond once every other week or so for a while - wanna do lunch or supper?? --part2_0.3d8f0906.25523816_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline From: Sabrejock@aol.com To: NAJ34@aol.com, mcplane@aristotle.net, mmcswain@aristotle.net Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 20:10:29 EST Subject: Your Father Message-ID: <0.157600b5.25523705@aol.com> X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Full-Name: Sabrejock Return-path: Sabrejock@aol.com WHAT IS A VET? Some veterans bear visible signs of their service: a missing limb, a Jagged scar, a certain look in the eye. Others may carry the evidence inside them: a pin holding a bone together, a piece of shrapnel in the leg - or perhaps another sort of inner steel: The soul's ally forged in the refinery of adversity. Except in parades, however, the men and women who have kept America safe Wear no badge or emblem. You can't tell a vet just by looking. What is a vet? He is the cop on the beat who spent six months in Saudi Arabia sweating two gallons a day making sure the armored personnel carriers didn't run out of fuel. He is the barroom loudmouth, dumber than five wooden planks, whose overgrown frat-boy behavior is outweighed a hundred times in the cosmic scales by four hours of exquisite bravery near the 38th parallel. She or he is the nurse who fought against futility and went to sleep sobbing every night for two solid years in Da Nang. He is the POW who went away one person and came back another - or didn't come back AT ALL. He is the Quantico drill instructor who has never seen combat - but has saved countless lives by turning slouchy, no-account rednecks and gang members into Marines, and teaching them to watch each other's backs. He is the parade - riding Legionnaire who pins on his ribbons and medals with a prosthetic hand. He is the career quartermaster who watches the ribbons and medals pass him by. He is the three anonymous heroes in The Tomb Of The Unknowns, whose presence at the Arlington National Cemetery must forever preserve the memory of all the anonymous heroes whose valor dies unrecognized with them on the battlefield or in the ocean's sunless deep. He is the old guy bagging groceries at the supermarket - palsied now and aggravatingly slow - who helped liberate a Nazi death camp and who wishes all day long that his wife were still alive to hold him when the nightmares come. He is an ordinary and yet an extraordinary human being - a person who offered some of his life's most vital years in the service of his country, and who sacrificed his ambitions so others would not have to sacrifice theirs. He is a soldier and a savior and a sword against the darkness, and he is nothing more than the finest, greatest testimony on behalf of the finest, greatest nation ever known. So remember, each time you see someone who has served our country, just lean over and say Thank You. That's all most people need, and in most cases it will mean more than any medals they could have been awarded or were awarded. Two little words that mean a lot, "THANK YOU". Remember November 11th is Veterans Day Read the "The Greatest Generation" by Tom Brokaw to gain a sense of recent history and world changing significance of your father's generation which can be found no where else, ,,,, C.Mc --part2_0.3d8f0906.25523816_boundary-- ----__JNP_000_4bcc.175f.5fe4--

Tressie, I believe you are correct. In the re-publication of S C Jones book that I have there is no notation as to source. I did find where I read about the Grave stone of Hans George pa 13 S C Jones "This George Hamrick settled in what is now known as Germantown, PA and there is at that place a monument marking his last resting place." It must have been stolen before the Librarian went to look for it. J R Fannie Hamrick letter?

Kathy, Thank you for your reply. It is the typical feeling of the German Hamricks in North Carolina. However I do not believe all the NC Hamricks remember it as you have described prior to the publication of S C's book. After publication it became part of the family genealogy of everyone in North Carolina. Greenberry "Berry" Hamrick printed a book of genealogy which consisted of a large number of family group sheets which represented many of the same persons, with dates, that S C Jones reported. In the "Hamricks of Past and Present 1731-1975" he repeated the Hans George story and tried to document as many Hamricks as he could with dates. The earliest Hamrick he could document was Samuel and reported where he was buried. All the others were historical only. In the 15 years since his publication much has been found about Patrick Hamrick and his descendants but no new data about Hans George and his first two generations. I think you may have misunderstood something I said earlier that Hans George and Moses Richard were descendants of Patrick. What I said was that S C Jones Genealogy could be corrected by changing "Hans George" to "Patrick" and "Moses Richard" to "James", not that they were the same people. The third generation of S C Jones was Samuel and Mary Hamrick, first cousins. This is true in both versions of the Hamrick genealogy. Samuel was a son of James and Mary was a daughter of Robert, both sons of Patrick Sr. On page 202 after his chapter 593, S C says "Benjamin Hamrick, who came from Ireland, had two brothers who came with him. Their names were Robert and Charles. They all served in the Revolutionary War and lived to be very old men. We now are reasonably sure that these three brothers from Ireland were sons of Patrick Hamrick Jr and also first cousins of Samuel and Mary Hamrick. Patrick Jr was a brother to James and Robert. It is obvious that first cousins from Germany would not be compatible with first cousins from Ireland. In other parts of the country the Hamricks relate their ancestry back to Patrick of Ireland. Patrick Jr, Jeremiah, and Benjamin Sr descendants all have stories of the Irish Patrick and only the descendants of James are mixed up in the Story of Hans George due to S C Jones' publication. I think David is correct, right story, wrong family except there is not much right about the story. I know this will not change your mind about your German ancestry but just put in a response to keep a little weight on the other side of the see-saw. J R David - I'm descended from Rutherford/Cleveland County Hamricks, and I can tell you that my grandparents firmly believed they were descended from German immigrants (Hans George). This wasn't a belief they picked up from whatever contact they had with SC Jones, who was a distant cousin, but rather family knowledge passed down from their parents and grandparents. Knowing my family, I trust from the stories passed down from generation to generation, had there been a link back to Ireland on the Hamrick side of our family, it would have been passed on in family stories. The children of Hans George that came to North Carolina per my family's records were George (m. Susanna Blanton) and Moses Richard (m. Mary Bridges). I think both George and Moses Richard have been said to be descendants of Patrick by others on this list - if there is anyone who can point me to some documentation (other than just a web site reference) on this I would be most interested. Thanks! Kathy

Wasn't the comment regarding Ireland, and Benjamin having two brothers Robert and Charles, from the Fannie Hamrick letter?

This is a good illustration. I'm not trying to posit Hans Georg as "first ancestor", just wondering how on earth he got mixed up in things. On the one hand, this is exactly the kind of mistake a genealogist would make (all of us, no doubt, from time to time!)--right surname, right time period, wrong family. Jones "ran with it", Mayme Hamrick buried him again in a footnote. On the other hand, if a "German George" exists in oral traditions, independent of archival research, one has to wonder how a real historical figure entered the oral tradition of the wrong family. > > David - > > I'm descended from Rutherford/Cleveland County Hamricks, and I can tell you > that my grandparents firmly believed they were descended from German > immigrants (Hans George). This wasn't a belief they picked up from whatever > contact they had with SC Jones, who was a distant cousin, but rather family > knowledge passed down from their parents and grandparents. Knowing my > family, I trust from the stories passed down from generation to generation, > had there been a link back to Ireland on the Hamrick side of our family, it > would have been passed on in family stories. > > The children of Hans George that came to North Carolina per my family's > records were George (m. Susanna Blanton) and Moses Richard (m. Mary > Bridges). I think both George and Moses Richard have been said to be > descendants of Patrick by others on this list - if there is anyone who can > point me to some documentation (other than just a web site reference) on > this I would be most interested. > > Thanks! > > Kathy ______________________________________________________________ Open your mind. Close your wallet Free Internet Access from AltaVista. http://www.altavista.com

David - I'm descended from Rutherford/Cleveland County Hamricks, and I can tell you that my grandparents firmly believed they were descended from German immigrants (Hans George). This wasn't a belief they picked up from whatever contact they had with SC Jones, who was a distant cousin, but rather family knowledge passed down from their parents and grandparents. Knowing my family, I trust from the stories passed down from generation to generation, had there been a link back to Ireland on the Hamrick side of our family, it would have been passed on in family stories. The children of Hans George that came to North Carolina per my family's records were George (m. Susanna Blanton) and Moses Richard (m. Mary Bridges). I think both George and Moses Richard have been said to be descendants of Patrick by others on this list - if there is anyone who can point me to some documentation (other than just a web site reference) on this I would be most interested. Thanks! Kathy

Please consider a visit to Ron Hamrick's excellent site: http://ron.hamrick.net "Hamrick Generations" was republished in 1983 by Virginia Greene DePriest, and contains the following preface: "Mr. Jones believed Hans Yerke Hamerick, who arrived in Philadelphia on the Louther in 1731, to be the common ancestor of all the local Hamricks. He had access to two books, one published in 1852 and the other in 1895, which recorded the passengers on the Louther. From later publications, it is evident that Hans Yerke Hamrick, Or Hans Jerg Hamriche, or Hans Gerg Hamrick was a middle-aged man who brought his family with him. These are his family members: wife Amaryllis Eliza Hamrick; son Paul Hamrick; daughters Margaretta and Clara Hamrick; and married daughter Maria Katharine Merchant with husband Jno Ludwick Merchant and son John Yerke Merchant, who was named for his grandfather Hamrick." The above names are found in "Pennsylvania German Pioneers" by Strassburger and Hinkle. If anyone has access to the books by Annette Burgert, perhaps they would have additional information.

One of the more interesting things about the German George thing is that Mayme Hamrick, who wrote the threshhold book on West Virginia Hamricks in 1938, knew about Hans Jerg and she simply footnoted it. Mayme was an attorney in the U.S. Justice Department and so should have been fairly adroit at scrutinizing records, even if they were less accessible. On the other hand, she was not complete with her report of Benjamin Hamrick, the patriarch of many of the West Virginia families. dhamrick@neo.rr.com Dan Hamrick 402 23rd Street NW Canton OH 44709 Phone and fax: 330-454-2376 ---------- >From: David Hamrick <hamrick4@altavista.com> >To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [HAMRICK-L] Hans George - one more question >Date: Sun, Oct 31, 1999, 4:00 PM > >Hello all, I've been away for a while and thus read last month's S.C. >Jones/Hans George debate in one sitting yesterday; hope you don't mind this >question. Does anyone know if the "German George" theory came from Jones >himself, or from the Hamricks he interviewed? If Jones discovered "Hans >Jerg Hammerich" in the archives, I can easily see him shouting "Eureka!" >and erroneously assuming he had found the missing link. But if "German >George" came from family tradition, how did an unrelated early 18th-century >German refugee get into the oral tradition of an Irish family, with at >least a few key facts intact? > >Yours for time travel research, > > >______________________________________________________________ >Open your mind. Close your wallet >Free Internet Access from AltaVista. http://www.altavista.com >

Hello all, I've been away for a while and thus read last month's S.C. Jones/Hans George debate in one sitting yesterday; hope you don't mind this question. Does anyone know if the "German George" theory came from Jones himself, or from the Hamricks he interviewed? If Jones discovered "Hans Jerg Hammerich" in the archives, I can easily see him shouting "Eureka!" and erroneously assuming he had found the missing link. But if "German George" came from family tradition, how did an unrelated early 18th-century German refugee get into the oral tradition of an Irish family, with at least a few key facts intact? Yours for time travel research, ______________________________________________________________ Open your mind. Close your wallet Free Internet Access from AltaVista. http://www.altavista.com

Jehamrick@aol.com wrote: > > I may have already subscribed, however I'm not getting e-mail from the site. > Joseph E. Hamrick, jehamrick@aol.com hi Joseph, i hope that you receive this note (Bud) at maui.net, everything is fine on this end.

I may have already subscribed, however I'm not getting e-mail from the site. Joseph E. Hamrick, jehamrick@aol.com

Tressie, Recieved your Scurlock info in the mail. Have some kind of virus taking turns with all four of my kids so have had to put genealogy on the back burner. Thanks. It came right when I needed something to look forward to besides washing yet another load of bed sheets! LOL! Kathy in FL mamkmm2@prodigy.net

Hi Michael, Who were Burwell's parents? Thanks. Jane ------------- quoted from Michael: Hello. I've been off list for some time and just now am in a position to re-join. I have some new information on my Burwell Hampton Hambrick. Formerly, we only knew the spouse for Burwell Hampton Hambrick as Elizabeth. Her maiden name and ancestry has now been found. Burwell Hampton Hambrick married Elizabeth Barber. She was the daughter of George Barber, Jr. and Elizabeth Reynolds (married 11 May 1806 in Clark Co., GA). George Barber, Jr. was born 1786 in Wilkes Co., GA. <snip> --------------------

Here's what I have for Hamrick links: http://www.talweb.com/redlimey/gene/hamrick.htm http://people.delphi.com/cfg http://www.maui.net/~mauifun/hamricks.htm http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hamrick/ http://www.ron.hamrick.net/toc.htm http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/9665/hamrick.htm