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Good morning Until 6 months ago I was unaware of Hamrick kinship. As I began looking into the Hamrick geneaolgy, I became aware of the Patrick controversy. Four years of postings to RootsWeb reveal much about the matter. Lately, it seems that those who disagree with the Patrick Hamrick theory have been intimidated into silence and that's a pity. Consensus does not necessarily mean correctness. After considering available information, I'd like to say that I believe my North Carolina Hamrick ancestors originated in Germany...not Ireland. Many people today believe that our ability to operate autos, VCRs, computers and the like is an example of our superior intelligence over our ancestors. We should understand, however, that our ancestors inability to read and write had nothing to do with a lack of mental acuity. As a septuagenarian, I can recall, as a child, talking to elderly folks who were born in the 1830s and 1840s. One of my great grandmothers who was born in 1840 and died in 1933 could neither read nor write. She did, however know the names of her grandparents, and great grandparents. Her knowledge of her ancestors makes me believe that our Hamricks in Rutherford and Cleveland counties also knew who their ancestors were. Consider this---if I, as a 70s something person alive today, talked to people who were born 150 years ago, then our kin who were alive in the early 1900s must have spoken to their kin who were born in the mid 1700s. (Are you with me?) I don't believe SC Jones grabbed names out of thin air to put in his book. I believe he got those names from older people who knew what they were talking about. It has been pointed out before but needs repeating that if our common ancestor was a Patrick rather than George, why are there so many George Hamricks and so few Patricks? Every other Southern family repeated given names over and over and over through the years. Why would descendants of a Patrick Hamrick not also do so? The descendants of George Hamrick certainly did. Bill Davenport

Kathy, You are a descendent of Patrick father of Benjamin? If so, I am also let me know. Cindy >From: Dan and Kathy Eck <dkeck@alaska.net> >Reply-To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com >To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [HAMRICK-L] Our German ancestors >Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:14:09 -0800 > >Hi Bill - > >Nice to hear from you - I'm also descended from the Cleveland/Rutherford >Hamricks, and also believe my ancestors were descended from George/German >stock. Like you, I place a good amount of faith in the family story-telling >through the years. I was only privileged to know up through my >grandparents' generation personally, but they were very knowledgable re. >their ancestors and shared a great interest in maintaining an oral family >history. > >Also, you mentioned those of us who believe we are descended from Patrick >may have been intimidated from posting to the list, just wanted to let you >know my silence has more to do with recently having been anticipating the >arrival of my own first Hamrick descendant. My particular line of Hamricks >have never been prone to intimidation! > >Hope to hear more from you - would be interested in knowing your own >particular lineage. > >Kathy > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi, My line is HAMBRICK with the 'B'. Jane

I understood David to mean that his students were merely adding a syllable by adding the e to his name.. Sounds like something some of us Southerners would do! I knew a girl who pronounced her last name with two syllables - Her name was Hill! (pronounced : HE'ill) I love Appalachia!

did I not read recently a query about william (sim) hamrick? would the person that was asking about him please contact me privately. mary

I was a Hamrick also...without the E. Caroline WVHAMRICK@prodigy.net

David, Hamerick is an infrequent variation of the name Hamrick. More common variations are Hamric, Hambrick, Hemrick. Other less frequent are Hammock, Hambrugg, Hambrock. I have seen Hamerick in the census several times along with other spellings invented by the census taker. One man in your area must have used Hamerick and thus there are several generations of his descendants using that variation. English researchers claim the name is known for having variations within a family in that a person may be recorded born with a different variation that his father, married with another variation, and buried with a third. In some older documents the same person may be refereed to with three different spellings of his name. So you can leave the 'e' out on the top of your paper and sign with an 'e'. J R Hamrick Hambrick Genealogy at: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com -----Original Message----- I'm curious how many of you have an E in the middle, i.e., "Hamerick". Probably 10% of my students (college) use this spelling when they turn in their first papers to me (your grade school students, Ginger, are far more meticulous about spelling!). Is this a historically common variant in the U.S.?

Better yet my mothers family spelled it Hambick which has run us crazy trying to find any family Louise Sanders -----Original Message----- From: Cynthia Brown <pocotwo@hotmail.com> To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com <HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [HAMRICK-L] hold the E, please >Hi, >Our family spells it Hamrick. >Have a good one. >Cindy > > >>From: David Hamrick <hamrick4@altavista.com> >>Reply-To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com >>To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [HAMRICK-L] hold the E, please >>Date: 30 Nov 1999 14:04:28 -0800 >> >>Hello all, >> >>I'm curious how many of you have an E in the middle, i.e., "Hamerick". >>Probably 10% of my students (college) use this spelling when they turn in >>their first papers to me (your grade school students, Ginger, are far more >>meticulous about spelling!). Is this a historically common variant in the >>U.S.? >> >> >>______________________________________________________________ >>Open your mind. Close your wallet. >>Free Internet Access from AltaVista. http://www.altavista.com >> >> > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >

Hello all, I'm curious how many of you have an E in the middle, i.e., "Hamerick". Probably 10% of my students (college) use this spelling when they turn in their first papers to me (your grade school students, Ginger, are far more meticulous about spelling!). Is this a historically common variant in the U.S.? ______________________________________________________________ Open your mind. Close your wallet. Free Internet Access from AltaVista. http://www.altavista.com

In a message dated Tue, 30 Nov 1999 5:06:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, David Hamrick <hamrick4@altavista.com> writes: <<I'm curious how many of you have an E in the middle>> I'm Hamrick, no E, no B, just plain ol' Hamrick.

Hey David: I can't say that my grade school students are more meticulous about spelling -- they spell phonetically, the same way a lot of folks do -- this explains why we see so many different spellings of the name Hamrick!! As for our branch, it is spelled without the 'e', but people outside our family still add a 'b'!! No wonder we all have such a hard time tracing our lineage!! Any luck in finding Thomas B.'s burial site or any new leads?? Ginger

Hi, Our family spells it Hamrick. Have a good one. Cindy >From: David Hamrick <hamrick4@altavista.com> >Reply-To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com >To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [HAMRICK-L] hold the E, please >Date: 30 Nov 1999 14:04:28 -0800 > >Hello all, > >I'm curious how many of you have an E in the middle, i.e., "Hamerick". >Probably 10% of my students (college) use this spelling when they turn in >their first papers to me (your grade school students, Ginger, are far more >meticulous about spelling!). Is this a historically common variant in the >U.S.? > > >______________________________________________________________ >Open your mind. Close your wallet. >Free Internet Access from AltaVista. http://www.altavista.com > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I love the name of Frank Gregory's mother. Her name personifies the history and culture of the area in West Virginia. She was Jane Hamrick Dodrill until she married John Wesley Gregory and, thus, became Jane Hamrick Dodrill Gregory. I don't know what she had against the Cogars and Chapmans. dhamrick@neo.rr.com Dan Hamrick 402 23rd Street NW Canton OH 44709 Phone and fax: 330-454-2376

Hi J R and all, Isham and Martha [Walker] HAMBRICK were my ggg-grandparents. Their daughter, Mary Elizabeth, married Samuel M. Hill. Mary Elizabeth’s sister, Virginia, married Hilton Hill. I don’t know if the 2 were related or not, as I haven’t researched the HILL line. I put together a small gedcom of all the HILLs in my database. I'll send it to J R but if anyone else needs it, let me know. Jane ------- replying to this message: >Hi!, Can anyone identify Elizabeth Hambrick who married Samuel M Hill, a Policeman, 30 Mar 1865 in Fayetteville, Lincoln, TN? Also Hinton Hill married Elizabeth's sister Virginia Hamrick in 1864. Sam and Elizabeth had Ella (Cynthia), Forest, Samuel. Drew, Elizabeth (Nancy Lizzy?), and Fannie, Elizabeth died 1880+ and Sam remarried Unknown? 1850 census Lincoln County, Tennessee. 067 Samuel Hill 16 living in household of Moses McWhorter 068 Hinton Hill 28 b NC Mary Ann 27 b AL Nancy 3 b TN Samuel and Hinton could be brothers? Anyone Kin or know these Hamricks? J R

Hi J R and all, Isham and Martha [Walker] HAMBRICK were my ggg-grandparents. Their daughter, Mary Elizabeth, married Samuel M. Hill. Mary Elizabeth’s sister, Virginia, married Hilton Hill. I don’t know if the 2 were related or not, as I haven’t researched the HILL line. I put together a small gedcom of all the HILLs in my database. I'll send it to J R but if anyone else needs it, let me know. Jane ------- replying to this message: >Hi!, Can anyone identify Elizabeth Hambrick who married Samuel M Hill, a Policeman, 30 Mar 1865 in Fayetteville, Lincoln, TN? Also Hinton Hill married Elizabeth's sister Virginia Hamrick in 1864. Sam and Elizabeth had Ella (Cynthia), Forest, Samuel. Drew, Elizabeth (Nancy Lizzy?), and Fannie, Elizabeth died 1880+ and Sam remarried Unknown? 1850 census Lincoln County, Tennessee. 067 Samuel Hill 16 living in household of Moses McWhorter 068 Hinton Hill 28 b NC Mary Ann 27 b AL Nancy 3 b TN Samuel and Hinton could be brothers? Anyone Kin or know these Hamricks? J R

Hi! Looking for thr Descendant of Isaam Hamrick b est 1812. Please write. J R Hamrick Hambrick Genealogy at: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com or http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hamrick -----Original Message----- From: TLNEALY@aol.com [mailto:TLNEALY@aol.com] Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 6:53 PM To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HAMRICK-L] Identify? She was a daughter of Isham Hambrick and Martha (Walker), who married 8-19-1841 Lincoln Co TN. 1850 Lincoln Co TN ,pg 437 William Hambrick 65 Unk; Susan 62 Unk; Isaam 35 TN; Martha (Walker) 32 TN; Elizabeth 8 TN; Virginia 6 TN; ____ Hambrick 4 male TN; Baby Hambrick 3/12 female TN; 1860 Madison Co AL, pg 55 Isam Hambrick 43 TN; Martha (Walker) 33 TN; Virginia 17 TN; Mary E. 16 TN; William 13 TN; Nancy 10 AR; Stephen 7 TN; James M 4 AL; Josiah 1 AL.

Hi!, Can anyone identify Elizabeth Hambrick who married Samuel M Hill, a Policeman, 30 Mar 1865 in Fayetteville, Lincoln, TN? Also Hinton Hill married Elizabeth's sister Virginia Hamrick in 1864. Sam and Elizabeth had Ella (Cynthia), Forest, Samuel. Drew, Elizabeth (Nancy Lizzy?), and Fannie, Elizabeth died 1880+ and Sam remarried Unknown? 1850 census Lincoln County, Tennessee. 067 Samuel Hill 16 living in household of Moses McWhorter 068 Hinton Hill 28 b NC Mary Ann 27 b AL Nancy 3 b TN Samuel and Hinton could be brothers? Anyone Kin or know these Hamricks? J R

She was a daughter of Isham Hambrick and Martha (Walker), who married 8-19-1841 Lincoln Co TN. 1850 Lincoln Co TN ,pg 437 William Hambrick 65 Unk; Susan 62 Unk; Isaam 35 TN; Martha (Walker) 32 TN; Elizabeth 8 TN; Virginia 6 TN; ____ Hambrick 4 male TN; Baby Hambrick 3/12 female TN; 1860 Madison Co AL, pg 55 Isam Hambrick 43 TN; Martha (Walker) 33 TN; Virginia 17 TN; Mary E. 16 TN; William 13 TN; Nancy 10 AR; Stephen 7 TN; James M 4 AL; Josiah 1 AL.

I found only one James Ham(b)rick on the 1820 census of Georgia, living in Jasper Co. But, we know there were at least two: (1) James, son of Charles and Mary, whose wife was Clarissa & (2) James who died in Coweta Co GA in 1834.