Bev, Price was born 15-April-1835, I have no death date. His wife, Sarah Elizabeth was born 1841 and died 1922. I beleive that they were married around the Rutherfoed County area, but I am not sure. Their children are: Martha, Chancey, Mary Ellen, Dorcas Ella, amd Carrie. There may be others. Carrie is my ggrandmother and died in 1901 giving birth to my ggrandmother, Willie Edyth McCurry. Thanks Christy ----- Original Message ----- From: <BBarnes525@aol.com> To: <HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [HAMRICK-L] Price and Sarah ? > << Price who married a Sarah Robinson? in Shelby, NC. One of the children is > Carrie who married Charles McCurry. > >> > Christy, What dates are you talking about? > Bev Barnes > Shelby, NC > >

Dear Cynthia, My Dad [1883, 1952] said Hamricks were German too, but he had nothing more to add except he thought 3 brothers came over about 1740.... Other poeple recently arrived from Germany say the name is definitely NOT GERMAN. The reason people cannot find the George Hammerichs from Germany is that they have pretty much died out. Can't prove anything if they are gone. However, Patrick was here many years before George and had established a large family before that time. I, myself, do not know who is right. One book published by the Bridges family [1750? can't remember] said Patrick Hamrick had 12 fine sons. No one mentions that source any more. I was shocked to find out others thought we were Irish??? English maybe, as there are some rearchers in England who have found some Hamrick and related names handed down from antiquity. My greatgrandfather wrote in Old English style, but perhaps his teacher was English. It is a great big puzzle which may never be solved. I am losing interest in the problem... As far as the LDS it simply publishes what people send in and does not claim to be accurate. Except for the copies of Census records, land transctions, Wills, Marriage records and etc. that have been taken from origional documents. Those are as good a gold. So just check your sources carefully so you know what the true facts are. As far as my line goes, we are stuck at 1785 in VA and can't go back any further. Have a good day and don't sweat the small stuff.!! Hugs, Darlene Hamrick Gleason

The West Virginia Hamricks trace to Patrick Hamrick, of Manassas, VA, born about 1689, and his wife Margaret Ingles. Most of them are descendants of his grandson Benjamin, son of Benjamin and Nancy McMillian, and his brother Joel who married a woman named Mary ________. Benjamin settled in what is now Webster County; Joel in what is now Braxton County. Patrick's origin is unproved. The leading theory is that Patrick himself came from Ireland. But there are theories about Hamricks having been in Ireland, England, Holland, Germany, France and/or Norway. dhamrick@neo.rr.com Dan Hamrick 402 23rd Street NW Canton OH 44709 Phone and fax: 330-454-2376 ---------- >From: "Cynthia Brown" <pocotwo@hotmail.com> >To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [HAMRICK-L] Patrick/George >Date: Sat, Jan 8, 2000, 8:48 PM > >The Hamricks from W.Va. my dad always said they were from German decent >which was told to him by passing down info from the ages. I wonder if this >is true? >Cindy > > >>From: Bill Davenport <davenport@brooksdata.net> >>Reply-To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com >>To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [HAMRICK-L] Patrick/George >>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 08:52:42 -0600 >> >>Good Morning: >> >>JR, I have most certainly received your comments as well as those others >>who took the time to write. You’ll have to bear with me if I do not >>respond as quickly as you might like. In addition to other aspects of >>living, I’m researching several other names and Hamrick is not really >>top priority. At the moment, I’m reflecting on life in the year 2000. >>As an eighteen year old serving in the Regular United States Navy, my >>shipmates and I discussed the possibility of living until the next >>century, and what it might be like. Don’t know about the others but I >>made it to 2000 and I’m proud to be here. >> >>Back to the comments. I appreciate them, even the references to >>membership in the Flat Earth Society. Thank you all for the information >>you’ve passed along. Everything helps. >> >>It would unrealistic to think that everything we come across is error >>free. We don’t know if written records were recorded correctly. We >>don’t know if persons reading and transcribing records have interpreted >>them accurately. With very little information about the stones at the >>Street Hamrick home place, I have no way of knowing whether they are >>recent or have been in place many years, or who placed them there. I >>did notice that the monument to Patrick Hamrick was erected in September >>1999. It seems to echo exactly what you preach. Was it built by >>supporting members of this list? ( only joking) >> >>Returning to the regurgitation of bad genealogy, if Patrick Hamrick was >>the first, where are all the Patrick Hamricks? If Moses Richard did not >>exist, why did Price Hamrick have sons named Moses and Richard? If >>Price’s father was Jeremiah, why don’t we see a son named Jeremiah? Why >>are there so many George Hamricks both laying down and walking around? >>(These irritants, Patrick supporters, just won’t go away, will they?) >> >> >From available records there apparently was a ship named Snow Lowther >>and it came to Philadelphia in 1731 with a load of Germans, among whom >>was a man named Hans Jeurg Hamerich. He apparently married another >>German named Nancy Cook. They likely had children. What happened to >>those children? Did they just vanish? >> >>How did the folks in North Carolina know about Moses Richard and Hans >>George? Were they just ignorant hillbillies who knew nothing? Did they >>just pull names out of thin air so as to confuse subsequent >>generations? Did they go so far as to erect phony tombstones? >> >>On the LDS site, upon entering the name Patrick Hamrick, one file says >>he was the son of Hans George. Ironic, huh? >> >>After I sent my original message to the list, I received a couple of >>messages from people who said they no longer send anything to the list >>because they had been put down for whatever dissenting opinions they >>expressed. That isn’t nice, Patrick descendants. Even if 95% of the >>list supports the Patrick notion, that doesn’t make it correct. >> >>Anyway, folks, I don’t have all the answers and I don’t think you do, >>either. Hopefully, we’ll learn more. Maybe something that will satisfy >>everybody. >> >>Bill Davenport >> >> > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >

1850 Cleveland Co NC, pg 152 Richard Hamric 53 NC s/o Price and Nancy Mary (Wall 36 NC Nancy 15 NC PRICE 13 NC Gabriel 11 NC Joseph P 9 NC Melinda 7 NC Elmira 6 NC Thomas 5 NC Sarah ll/12 NC

1860 Cleveland Co NC, family #909 Mary Hamrick 46 NC Nancy Hamrick 26 NC PRICE Hamrick 25 NC Joseph Hamrick 17 NC Malinda Hamrick 12 NC Almira Hamrick 10 NC Thomas Hamrick 10 NC Jane Hamrick 9 NC Amanda Hamrick 7 NC

Christy, I find your family in the 1870 Cleveland Co. Census, Township #6, Shelby HAMRICK, Rice 36 Elizabeth 27 Martha 1 Chancey G. 6/12 Grant, David 21 Elmira 25 William 1/12 Shuford, Miller (black) 14 1880 Cleveland Co. HAMRICK, Price 47 Susan Elizabeth 39 Martha W. 11 Mary 7 Chancey Gidney 10 Dorcas Ella 2 WILLIAMS, Nancy 15 1900 Cleveland Co. HAMRICK, Chancey b. Dec 70 age 29 married 5 yrs. parents born SC L. Jane b. Apr 80 ,age 10 mother of 2, with 2 living children Charlie Son Jan 97, age 3 Mallie, Dtr Dec 98, age 1 Next door is: HAMRICK, Elizabeth b. May '41, age 58, widow, mother of 1/1 living, born NC Butler, Marta Dau, b. Oct 69, age 30, widow, mother of 2/2 living M. Lee Gr-dau b. Feb '88, age 11 Ida, Gr-dau b. Jan '91 age 9 NOTES from Marriage Index, Cleveland Co. Martha W. Hamrick married William O. Butler on Mar 16, 1888. Price and Susan Elizabeth Robinson are not listed in Cleveland (1841-present)or Rutherford Marriage index (1779-1868). I don't find any of the above listed on the death index for Cleveland Co. Maybe this will be enough info to give you a starting point. Bev Barnes

Cindy, Older Hamricks from West Virginia have always said they were descendants of an Irish Patrick. Only those born after 1920 picked up the German Ancestry story from a book THE HAMRICK GENERATIONS written by S C Jones. Who were your Hamrick ancestors born prior to 1920? J R

The Hamricks from W.Va. my dad always said they were from German decent which was told to him by passing down info from the ages. I wonder if this is true? Cindy >From: Bill Davenport <davenport@brooksdata.net> >Reply-To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com >To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [HAMRICK-L] Patrick/George >Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 08:52:42 -0600 > >Good Morning: > >JR, I have most certainly received your comments as well as those others >who took the time to write. You’ll have to bear with me if I do not >respond as quickly as you might like. In addition to other aspects of >living, I’m researching several other names and Hamrick is not really >top priority. At the moment, I’m reflecting on life in the year 2000. >As an eighteen year old serving in the Regular United States Navy, my >shipmates and I discussed the possibility of living until the next >century, and what it might be like. Don’t know about the others but I >made it to 2000 and I’m proud to be here. > >Back to the comments. I appreciate them, even the references to >membership in the Flat Earth Society. Thank you all for the information >you’ve passed along. Everything helps. > >It would unrealistic to think that everything we come across is error >free. We don’t know if written records were recorded correctly. We >don’t know if persons reading and transcribing records have interpreted >them accurately. With very little information about the stones at the >Street Hamrick home place, I have no way of knowing whether they are >recent or have been in place many years, or who placed them there. I >did notice that the monument to Patrick Hamrick was erected in September >1999. It seems to echo exactly what you preach. Was it built by >supporting members of this list? ( only joking) > >Returning to the regurgitation of bad genealogy, if Patrick Hamrick was >the first, where are all the Patrick Hamricks? If Moses Richard did not >exist, why did Price Hamrick have sons named Moses and Richard? If >Price’s father was Jeremiah, why don’t we see a son named Jeremiah? Why >are there so many George Hamricks both laying down and walking around? >(These irritants, Patrick supporters, just won’t go away, will they?) > > >From available records there apparently was a ship named Snow Lowther >and it came to Philadelphia in 1731 with a load of Germans, among whom >was a man named Hans Jeurg Hamerich. He apparently married another >German named Nancy Cook. They likely had children. What happened to >those children? Did they just vanish? > >How did the folks in North Carolina know about Moses Richard and Hans >George? Were they just ignorant hillbillies who knew nothing? Did they >just pull names out of thin air so as to confuse subsequent >generations? Did they go so far as to erect phony tombstones? > >On the LDS site, upon entering the name Patrick Hamrick, one file says >he was the son of Hans George. Ironic, huh? > >After I sent my original message to the list, I received a couple of >messages from people who said they no longer send anything to the list >because they had been put down for whatever dissenting opinions they >expressed. That isn’t nice, Patrick descendants. Even if 95% of the >list supports the Patrick notion, that doesn’t make it correct. > >Anyway, folks, I don’t have all the answers and I don’t think you do, >either. Hopefully, we’ll learn more. Maybe something that will satisfy >everybody. > >Bill Davenport > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Chickasha (OK) Daily Express, Thursday, September 13, 1934, daily paper Page 3, Column 5, part of a Column entitled VERDEN NEWS. (Oklahoma) Funeral services were held for C. M. Hamrick age 79 years who passed away at his home south of town Monday evening after a lingering illness. Services were at the Baptist Church with Rev. Thompson, pastor of the Tuttle Church of Christ officiating and internment was made in the Rose Hill Cemetery at Chickasha. He is survived by his widow, six sons, Roy, Charley, Douglas and Russell of Verden. Lawrence of Tuttle and Robert of Chickasha and two daughters, Addie of Verden and Mrs. Lizzie Howell of Georgia. The Verden newspaper, a weekly, was missing the Sept. 14, 1934 issue. The obit did not appear in the weekly Chickasha paper.

My line to the above names: Minor H. McCray -Ireland Robert McCray SR. - Rebecca Sims - Virginia Robert McCray JR. - b.may 1794 Highland county, VA - d. 1867 Lewis Co,WV. -married Margaret (Margerette)Bennett on 20 July 1817 Lewis Co,VA. James McCray -b. 19 Oct 1819 Lewis Co,WV - d. 13 Jan 1861 married Amanda Jane Berry 19 Aug 1841 Braxton County,Va (WV) Mary Jane McCray -b. 30 May 1842 Upshur County, -d. 14 Oct 1927 Hacker Valley,Webster County, WV at the home of her daughter Cassie Robinson - married to Benjamin Currence Conrad -b. 15 Sept 1841 Braxton Co,VA - d. 15 Nov 1920 at Webster Springs,Webster County, WV. Marriage date 15 Nov 1866 in Upshur County by Rev. William Lisk. Ada Mae Conrad -b. 24 March 1875 Replete, Webster County,WV. -d. 24 Oct 1967 at Webster Springs Memorial Hospital, Webster County, WV. Married Thomas "Bud" Harris - b. 10 March 1868 Webster Springs,Webster County (Cherry Falls)wv. - d. 3 Sept 1938 Buckhannon Hospital, Upshur County, WV. Married on 8 Jan 1901 ,Webster Springs,Wv. Effie "Arthelia" Harris - b. 28 Dec 1905 Webster Springs, WV.(Webster Co.) died 4 December 1961 Webster Springs Memorial Hospital of a blood clot after surgery. Married Paris McLaughlin Hamrick -b. 2 Jan 1894 on Point Mountain, Webster County near Webster Springs,WV. on 14 Jan. 1926. Patsy Lou Hamrick -b. 10 July 1937 Paintertown (Valley Head, Randolph County, WV. Married Robert Louis Weikart -b. 5 Jan 1931 Sewickley, Allegheny County, PA. Married 30 September 1958 Webster Springs Meth. Church,Webster County, WV. Would like to make contact with cousins, Patsy lou in Southern California

<< Price who married a Sarah Robinson? in Shelby, NC. One of the children is Carrie who married Charles McCurry. >> Christy, What dates are you talking about? Bev Barnes Shelby, NC

I am a descendent of Burrell Hambrick of GA. I am also a descendent of Wrights. William Prichard Wright b 14 Nov 1804 NC Married Mary Stone. William's parents were Hansel and Elizabeth Prichard Wright b.1773 VA and Eliz. b 1774 NC. I do not have marriage dates for either but do know that Hansel came to Tx in 1837 and William in 1839. Some of William's children born in KY and TN. It might be your Sarah Wright was connected to Hansel's clan. I don't have anything to back this up, but it is believed that Hansel's father was Named WIlliam. From the Rusk County History, TX page 455 Hansel Wright. "Hansel Wright was born in Pittsylvania CO.VA in 1773 of Quaker parentage. The Quakers had come down in 1730 from Pennsylvania and had settled in Maryland and Virginia. Among those making the move were: James, Thomas, Robert and William Wright. The Wrights assisted in the formation of a Methodist CHurch and almost all of the descendents have been members of this church." I hope this might give you some clues in your research. Genevieve >From: BBarnes525@aol.com >Reply-To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com >To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [HAMRICK-L] Re: Earliest >Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:00:05 EST > >In a message dated 01/07/2000 5:37:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, >Ted_Smith@lotus.com writes: > ><< George Hambrick was named co-executor of the 1805 will of Richard Right > (Wright) and FEBY Hambrick was named as a child of Richard Right/Wright. > - Owen Lee was also a co-executor of the Richard Right will, and Owen >Lee > and Richard Wright was bondsmen for the marriage of George Hamrick and > Febey Right, 23 Sept 1801. >> > >Dear Ted, >I am going to hop into the middle of this. In NC, I have a John Lee >(1784-1823) married to Sarah Hamrick (abt 1792-1856) about 1808. John's >father was Owen Lea and mother was Elizabeth Wright. > >Children of John and Sarah Hamrick Lee (all born in Rutherford Co., NC) >William Owen Lee b. 10 Mar 1810 >Osborn William Lee b. 29 Feb 1812 >John Wright Lee b. 1816 >Minerva R. Lee b. 16 Mar 1820 >Walter Edward Lee b. abt 1822 >Elizabeth Lewis Lee > >I need to know who the parents of Sarah Hamrick are. Any ideas? >Bev Barnes > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Will of Owen Lee, 2 April 1817/Recorded Oct Court 1817. Wife Elizabeth, to keep possession of the mantion (?) house and lands, all stock so long as she remains a widow, if she should marry she is to have l/3 part of real and personal property. Wife to give to the children as they come of age or marry what property she thinks suitable. At her death all property to be sold and equally division made giving account for them that has received. I appoint sons John and Ivery Lee executors. Wits: Abraham Irwin, Sam'l Fondrow. signed/Owen Lee

In a message dated 01/07/2000 5:37:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ted_Smith@lotus.com writes: << George Hambrick was named co-executor of the 1805 will of Richard Right (Wright) and FEBY Hambrick was named as a child of Richard Right/Wright. - Owen Lee was also a co-executor of the Richard Right will, and Owen Lee and Richard Wright was bondsmen for the marriage of George Hamrick and Febey Right, 23 Sept 1801. >> Dear Ted, I am going to hop into the middle of this. In NC, I have a John Lee (1784-1823) married to Sarah Hamrick (abt 1792-1856) about 1808. John's father was Owen Lea and mother was Elizabeth Wright. Children of John and Sarah Hamrick Lee (all born in Rutherford Co., NC) William Owen Lee b. 10 Mar 1810 Osborn William Lee b. 29 Feb 1812 John Wright Lee b. 1816 Minerva R. Lee b. 16 Mar 1820 Walter Edward Lee b. abt 1822 Elizabeth Lewis Lee I need to know who the parents of Sarah Hamrick are. Any ideas? Bev Barnes

"Rutherford Co NC Will & Miscellaneous Records 1783-1868" by Wooley and Wooley Will Book A, pg 187: 4 Mar 1805. Proved 6 July 1805. I Richard Right being very sick and weak in body but of perfect mind and memory. I give to JUDITH WRIGHT all my personal estate during her natural life, and after her decease, I give to my daughter NANCY LEE one feathr bed & furniture and my property to be equally divided amongest the rest of my children: JOHN WRIGHT, MARY RAN___, (blured) ELIZBETH LEE, NANCY LEE, SARAH MCCOMBY, FEBY HAMBRICK. I appoint Owen Lee and GEORGE HAMBRICK, executors. Wit: Jullet Wright, Benjamin Daily. signed: Richard Wright. I have never been able to document a George Ham(b)rick in VA census as head of household before 1850. Keep in touch, Tressie

Tressie, Thanks for the "earliest" dates and the request for others to post early info. This is very helpful to the descendants from NC (like me) who continue to search for our Hamrick lines, wondering about German George and how he came to be so ingrained in NC lore if we aren't somehow descended from or related to him. This data along with the Census information helps us track ancestors. I believe that you provided the following in some earlier correspondence. Can you tell me the source of this information? And if George and Febey were in NC or VA at this time. - George Hambrick was named co-executor of the 1805 will of Richard Right (Wright) and FEBY Hambrick was named as a child of Richard Right/Wright. - Owen Lee was also a co-executor of the Richard Right will, and Owen Lee and Richard Wright was bondsmen for the marriage of George Hamrick and Febey Right, 23 Sept 1801. Thanks, Ted

Hi Kathy, That is good news and your daughter is still in my prayers each day. I just know that she will be good as new very soon and able to play any games. We are supporting your family in our healing thoughts and prayers, Patsy in CA On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:08:03 -0500 "MICHAEL MARTINEZ" <mamkmm2@prodigy.net> writes: > This isn't genealogy...but I want to thank everyone so much for the > kind > words and thoughts they sent. > > Sorry have been so long in responding. To let everyone know, we > were > finally able to bring our three year old daughter home late last > night from > the hospital. It turned out to be a burst appendix....very > dangerous. We > have an in-home nurse come in twice a day to administer antibiotics > via I.V. > as well as three doses of oral antibiotics that I give her per day. > She > seems almost her old self....but she tires easily. I warn anyone > with young > children and who might be caring for an older adult.....burst > appendix are > much more common than you would think and are hard to diagnose in > the very > young and the more mature adult. The symptoms mimic so many other > gastro-intestinal illnesses. And not everyone's appendix is in the > same > location....so forget the notion of appendix pain only being on the > right > side. > > I have to take her back to the surgeon every few days so that they > can > monitor her progress. If all goes well and she responds to the > antibiotics > at home as well as she did in the hospital, then she will go back > for > surgery in 3 to 4 weeks to have the appendix removed. Currently, > the > surgeon feels that the risks far outway the benefits of removing it > right > away. Her abdoman is still obviously swollen and her blood work > still shows > too high a level of infection to risk an operation for > "convenience." > > I truly appreciate everyone's concern. She is allowed no "rough > housing." > Anyone that has ever cared for a 3 year old knows what a task that > is going > to be. I will try to get back to everyone who sent me genealogical > queries > as soon as time permits. Please continue to keep her in your > prayers as > this is not over yet. > > Kathy in FL mamkmm2@prodigy.net >

This isn't genealogy...but I want to thank everyone so much for the kind words and thoughts they sent. Sorry have been so long in responding. To let everyone know, we were finally able to bring our three year old daughter home late last night from the hospital. It turned out to be a burst appendix....very dangerous. We have an in-home nurse come in twice a day to administer antibiotics via I.V. as well as three doses of oral antibiotics that I give her per day. She seems almost her old self....but she tires easily. I warn anyone with young children and who might be caring for an older adult.....burst appendix are much more common than you would think and are hard to diagnose in the very young and the more mature adult. The symptoms mimic so many other gastro-intestinal illnesses. And not everyone's appendix is in the same location....so forget the notion of appendix pain only being on the right side. I have to take her back to the surgeon every few days so that they can monitor her progress. If all goes well and she responds to the antibiotics at home as well as she did in the hospital, then she will go back for surgery in 3 to 4 weeks to have the appendix removed. Currently, the surgeon feels that the risks far outway the benefits of removing it right away. Her abdoman is still obviously swollen and her blood work still shows too high a level of infection to risk an operation for "convenience." I truly appreciate everyone's concern. She is allowed no "rough housing." Anyone that has ever cared for a 3 year old knows what a task that is going to be. I will try to get back to everyone who sent me genealogical queries as soon as time permits. Please continue to keep her in your prayers as this is not over yet. Kathy in FL mamkmm2@prodigy.net

Thanks, Ted. The second Nancy is the most likely. Any idea who the other Nancy might be? Tressie

Tressie, If the census records you posted include Nancy Hamrick, widow of Price. The second one would appear to be more likely. Following the 1820 structure, Nancy would have been about 62, although I don't know who were the children in either case. 1820 Census Males 0-10 10-16 16-18 18-26 26-45 45 & up Females 0-10 10-16 16-26 26-45 45 & up The first Nancy Hambrick record is unusual, since it appears that Nancy was in the 16-26 age range with at least 1 adult male age 26-45 and 2 males in the 16-26 range. >I suppose one of the Nancys on the 1820 census would be the widow. > Nancy Hambrick 202210 - 10200 > or > Nancy Hamrick 000100 - 01001 Ted