Well, Hamrick researchers, you are going to love this one. My husband's 1/2 aunt died just before Christmas. We just got a copy of the front-page obituary in her former hometown newspaper. I'm not going to bore everyone with the entire obituary. (It had about 12 inches on the front page with picture then was continued on page four for an entire column.) From The Cullman Tribune, January 06, 2000, page 1: DOT HAMRICK HANCOCK SUCUMBS. Dot Delores Hamrick Hancock, age 84, died on December 18, 1999, in Foley, in Baldwin County. She was born on April 26, 1915 to Robert Lee Hamrick and Lessie Nelson Hamrick, in Cullman County. <snip> [The rest of the obituary told all her accomplishments, activities, children, and grandchildren. Then it concluded, on page 4, with the following, and I quote:] "Editor's Note: "Mrs. Hancock's grandfather, Jim Hamrick, was an early Mayor of Hanceville. The Hamricks were early settlers of Hanceville, while it was still a part of Blount County. Bland School, a one room school house that served the growing town, as well as Hanceville Academy were not adequate to the growing population. The Hamrick family was education minded and was involved in expanded school facilities. The land were the current Hanceville School is located was once farmed by the Hamrick family, until 1923. "The Hamrick family, or Hambrecht in Germany, were also involved in writing the Georgia Constitution and established Primitive Baptist Churches in Alabama. "Dot's great uncle, Jack Daniels, a Cherokee Indian, founded the Tennessee Distillery, even though most of his Alabama kin are tee-totlers." And 20 years from now some family researcher is going to find this newspaper article in some archive and think it's the truth!! Fact: There in no known (and definitely no proven) Cherokee ancestry in the Hamrick (or Nelson) family. Dot's great uncle on the Hamrick side of the family would have been: William Taylor Hamrick, Charles Jackson Hamrick, Robert Newton Hamrick, John Warren Hamrick, or John Thomas ROWE, Joel JAKCSON, Burt DANIEL, Floyd DINGLER, James ROGERS, or George McAlpine. And in all my visits to the Jack Daniels distilery, I have never heard old Jack referred to as Burt! (Burt's children were Lucy, Jesse, Mary, Margaret, and Nancy Daniel.) On the Nelson side, Moses (Lessie's father) was an only child so there would be no great uncles. But wasn't it a lovely story? Fact: There is no known proof that HAMRICK was HAMBRECHT. That's a possibility I'm sure. But proof? This particular Hamrick line - from 1800 until they moved into the German-settled Cullman County, AL - lived in British-settled communities in eastern Alabama and western Georgia. No one has been able to document this family in any area other than Georgia! And many of us have tried! Fact: There are pictures hanging in the Hanceville City Hall of all the past mayors. The third picture, donated by Barbara Hamrick Blalock (wife of the editor of the Cullman Tribune, by the way) and is said to be James Thomas (Jim) Hamrick, father of Robert E. Lee Hamrick and grandfather of Dot Deloris Hamrick. But...there is absolutely no mention of Mayor Hamrick in any newspaper, any city documents, any election material...well, you get the point. But Jim Hamrick did sell, at inflated prices, the land where the current school stands. Did a Hamrick help write the Georgia Constitution? If so, who and when? Why am I writing this, you might ask? Good question. I guess only to warn all the researchers to beware of "facts" they read in newspapers - even old newspapers. You almost have to know who wrote the article and the author's motivation before you can fully evaluate the article. And how many times do you know who wrote a newspaper article? In this case, the editor is married to a Hamrick. He printed some family "legends" - some only known by his wife apparently. There is a grain of truth in each statement, but nothing is proven. (I.e., Aunt Dot did have a great uncle who was a DANIEL - but he wasn't Jack. Jim Hamrick's picture does hang in City Hall among the other mayors, but it was placed there in the late 80s and is the only Mayor not identified on the picture by name or dates of his term. The Ham(b)ricks could have German ancestry; much of Cullman County does; but to date there is no "proof", other than S. C. Jones' book, that I know of. What am I going to do about the misstatements in the newspaper? I wanted to write a "letter to the editor" and ask that he provide documentation to back up his claims. My husband won't let me. He says it will just cause hard feelings and not prove anything. And he's right. Barbara Hamrick Blalock is his third cousin, and she has cancer, undergoing chemotherapy and has been extremely ill from that for several years. So I'm sharing my frustations with all of you. Maybe one of you will have evidence that Delton Blalock's words in his Editor's Note are correct. I would love to be proven wrong on this one. Pat motesp@hiwaay.net

Hi Sarah, I was at Manassas, Va but my husband and I went in May 1998. We saw the graveyard and took pictures of Hamrick site. I would like to have a picture if you can get your scanner working. We just bought one , haven't got to try it yet. Char

>From the Smith CO, TX Probate Records. Marian A. Hambrick, et al., Minors A. J. Boynton, Rusk Co., uncle, pet. sas guar. 5-7-1874 of Marian A. Hambrick, Victoria G. Hambrick, Burrell H. Hambrick, Marita Elizabeth Hambrick, heirs of George & A. A. Hambrick, both dec'd and Emma Greenwood and Eugene Greenwood, heirs of G. H. & A. A. Greenwood, all heirs of est. of B. H. Hambrick. Antoinette Boynton Hambrick remarried after the death of George Hambrick. She Married Goerge H. Greenwood in 12-24-1865 in Panola CO. TX Emma Greenwood was born in 1866 and Lary (Eugene) was born in 1868. THe 1870 Panola CO. Tx census has A. A. Greenwood with all 6 children listed under her. As we can see from probate record above, she was deceased by 1874. George Greenwood remarried but did not have either of the two children living with him. >From the Marriage Record of Panola CO, we see that George Hambrick and Antoinette married in Panola CO 4-16-1852 and George's Sister Nancy married Mumford Buckner in Panola CO 7-15-1851. Deed records from Panola CO, TX show Burrell Hambrick and Elizabeth Barber Hambrick sold land to Moses Boyenton (Antoinette's father) They also owned land in Rusk CO., TX THe Panola CO Texas land is on the border of Rusk and Panola CO. between Longbranch and Mt Enterprise and Pine Hill. Moses owned a very large amount of land. George and Antoinette were in Van Zaandt CO in 1860 Census, but I know that their daughter was born in Henderson, TX RUsk COunty in 1859. My grandfather took my father by the 2-story Victorian House in Henderson and said that was where his Mother was born. His mother being Marita Elizabeth. There seems to be some confusion to Emma being Ella on some of your files and the date of birth for Emma and Lary and it is not noted that they are Greenwoods' and not Hambricks. If anyone has any information on Lary or Emma and what happened to them, I would be happy to receive it. Thank you for your patience. I also have articles from Dallas Newspapers on the Hambrick Plantation in Van Zandt. Some of these articles have conflicting information with the History of Van Zandt CO. History book, but make for interesting reading. I will share with you. I also have pictures of the Hambrick house that I will try to scan. I will be happy to share any data on this Hambrick line with you. Genevieve ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

"Abstract of Wills, Inventories and Administration Accounts of Frederick County, Virginia - 1743 -1800 by J. Estelle Stewart King." FRIEND, ISRAEL Will, 18 September 1753. - 5 March 1754 Eldest sons Jonas, Jacob, Charles (youngest). Daughters: Catherine, Mary Friend. Wife Sarah to have one-third of the moveable estate. Exrs: brother Charles Friend, Captain Thomas Swearenger Witness: Nathan Shepherd, Isaac Rorsey, Ann Leonard.

Hambricks, Can anyone identify the parents of James Madison Hambrick b abt 1840 in AK and died 1902 in Texas. He married Martha Ann Ashworth b 1848 Jefferson Co, TX and buried Brookland Cem, ??Trinity Co, TX He had a brother Alfred Hambrick who operated a sawmill with him. Alfred married Effy Ashworth b 1784, sister to Martha Ann Ashworth. The parents of the Ashworths were Aaron Ashworth b 5 May 1821 in St Landry Parish, LA and died May 3, 1883 in Texas. He married Serena Matilda Gibson Jan 7, 1846 in Jefferson County, Texas. She was born 1827 in LA and died 1914 Trinity Co, TX. Parents Zedikiah Gibson and Sarah Hight. His ancestors were Jesse A, James, James. Aaron was in the 1850 census of Jefferson Co, Texas and in 1860 in Trinity Co, Texas. He died in Trinity Co., Texas. A brother Amos A Ashworth b 1850 married Priscilla Jolly. It appears that the Hambrick brothers from AR married the Ashworth girls in Trinity County, Texas. Joseph Madison and his brother Amos might be on an 1850 census in AR. Does anyone know their parents, siblings, and descendants? J R Hamrick Hambrick Genealogy at: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com or http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hamrick

Bill & all - I snipped a bit below for brevity. The monument was erected by George Walter Hambrick, Jr. I have pictures of the monument, for those of you who can't get to Manassas. I can send copies via e-mail (once I get my scanner running again). Anyone who wants to get a message to George, let me know. Or if you have questions about the monument, ask away & I'll share what I know. Or I can get with George. Sarah Bill Davenport wrote: > > > I > did notice that the monument to Patrick Hamrick was erected in September > 1999. It seems to echo exactly what you preach. Was it built by > supporting members of this list? ( only joking) > -- Sarah E. Hambrick sarahham@swbell.net "There's enough youth, how about a fountain of smart?" - unknown

Jane, Sorry, the cemetery info got "cut off" by my report program. Margaret Hamrick is buried in Sunset Memorial Cemetery - Roselawn Garden 1 Section, Spindale, Rutherford Co., NC. Ted

Hi Ted, Regarding this child of Price Hamrick and Sarah Elizabeth Davis: 7 F Margaret Hamrick Birth: Nov 28 1882 Death: Oct 15 1965 Burial: Sunset Memorial Cemetery - Roselawn Gard ** Do you know the city/state she was buried? ** Thanks! Jane

Jane, You list the wife of Alonzo Iredell Hamrick as Nancy Jane Hamrick (daughter of Richard & Mary [Wall] Hamrick). Where did you come across her full name? I have her listed as Nancy Hamrick. I do find a younger sister for her (from the 1860 Census) named Jane. Ted

Christy, I believe that you can order copies of "The Hamrick Generations" from the Broad River Genealogical Society . As a descendant of NC Hamricks, I will warn you that the book contains quite a number of inaccuracies. But it was the starting point for many of us now on this "journey." The Broad River Genealogical Society can be reached at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncclevel/brgs.htm They have it listed as "The Hamrick Generations" for 18.00. Do you know where Charles Edwin McCurry is buried? I see that Carrie is buried in Beaver Dam Baptist Church Cemetery, but I don't find him there. Ted

Jane, I show Alonzo Iredell Hamrick (b. Apr 9 1826 Rutherford Co., NC, d. Jun 25 1903, buried Poplar Springs Baptist Church Cemetery, Township No.2, Cleveland Co., NC) as the son of Moses Hamrick Sr. and Sarah Robinson. Moses is a son of Price Hamrick and Nancy Bridges. Ted

Ted, His real name in Charles Edwin McCurry. How could I get a copy of the Hamrick Generations? Thanks again, Christy ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ted_Smith@lotus.com> To: <HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 11:02 PM Subject: [HAMRICK-L] Re: Thanks for the info > > Christy, > I think that the listing of your ggggrandfather as "Edgar" is from the book > "The Hamrick Generations". There are many incorrect or slightly > inaccurate names there. I take it that you only know his name as > "Charles"; or do you know his full name? > Ted > > >

Bev, I found a John Lee in my records; he is the father of an Osborne William Lee (b. Feb 29 1812, d. Jan 26 1864). I did not have any other children listed. I do not have a wife for John Lee. Where did you come by her name as "Sarah Hamrick"? Also Osborne William Lee's wife was Rosanna Bridges, daughter of Aaron Bridges and Sarah Hamrick. Ted

Hi Bev & Christy, I also show another child for Price and Sarah - Alonzo Iredell Hamrick b.~1862 who married Nancy Jane Hamrick (daughter of Richard & Mary [Wall] Hamrick). Now, this would have been Alonzo’s aunt, so this has just got to be wrong. Also, this Alonzo does not show up on the census - can someone set me straight as to who his parents should be? Also, I show another daughter for Price and Sarah - Margaret, b. ~1872 married Edgar Moore. Again, she isn’t on the census reports. Any comments? thanks! Jane --------------- Subject: Re: [HAMRICK-L] Price and Sarah ? Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:27:48 -0600 From: "Christy Beth" <christybeth@ev1.net> To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com Bev, Price was born 15-April-1835, I have no death date. His wife, Sarah Elizabeth was born 1841 and died 1922. I beleive that they were married around the Rutherfoed County area, but I am not sure. Their children are: Martha, Chancey, Mary Ellen, Dorcas Ella, amd Carrie. There may be others. Carrie is my ggrandmother and died in 1901 giving birth to my ggrandmother, Willie Edyth McCurry. Thanks Christy

Christy, I think that the listing of your ggggrandfather as "Edgar" is from the book "The Hamrick Generations". There are many incorrect or slightly inaccurate names there. I take it that you only know his name as "Charles"; or do you know his full name? Ted

Christy, I have the following information on the family of Price Hamrick and Sarah Elizabeth Davis. Ted ======================================== Husband: Price Hamrick - -------------------------------------- Birth: Apr 15 1835 Census: 1860 Cleveland Co., NC Death: Jul 5 1888 Burial: Beaverdam Baptist Church Cemetery, Shelb Marriage: Aug 31 1865 Cleveland Co., NC Father: Richard Hamrick (b abt 1797) Mother: Mary Wall (b abt 1814) ======================================== Wife: Sarah Elizabeth Davis - -------------------------------------- Birth: abt 1841 NC Death: abt 1922 Burial: Beaverdam Baptist Church Cemetery, Shelb Father: Benjamin Paxton Davis (b Sep 4 1815) Mother: Narcissus Hamrick (b Aug 22 1820) ======================================== Children ======================================== 1 M Chancey Gibney Hamrick Birth: Dec 25 1869 Rutherford Co., NC Death: Mar 4 1950 Burial: Avondale Cemetery, Avondale, Rutherford Spouse: Lucy Jane Bailey - -------------------------------------- 2 F Martha W. Hamrick Birth: abt 1869 NC Death: Burial: Spouse: Oliver Butler Spouse: Charles Bailey - -------------------------------------- 3 F Mary Hamrick Birth: abt 1873 Death: Burial: Spouse: Leander Butler - -------------------------------------- 4 F Darcus Ella Hamrick Birth: Mar 18 1878 NC Death: Jan 16 1919 Cleveland Co., NC Burial: Beaverdam Baptist Church Cemetery, Shelb Spouse: Samuel Wilson - -------------------------------------- 5 F Infant Hamrick Birth: Dec 3 1879 Death: Jan 22 1880 Burial: Beaverdam Baptist Church Cemetery, Shelb Marriage: - -------------------------------------- 6 F Carrie A. Hamrick Birth: Jan 11 1881 Death: Jan 30 1901 Burial: Beaverdam Baptist Church Cemetery, Shelb Spouse: C. Edgar McCurry - -------------------------------------- 7 F Margaret Hamrick Birth: Nov 28 1882 Death: Oct 15 1965 Burial: Sunset Memorial Cemetery - Roselawn Gard Spouse: Edgar Moore

Dan, Thanks for the info but may I ask how you came about it? Cindy >From: "HAMRICK,DANIEL" <dhamrick@neo.rr.com> >Reply-To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com >To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [HAMRICK-L] Patrick/George >Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 10:07:55 -0500 > >The West Virginia Hamricks trace to Patrick Hamrick, of Manassas, VA, born >about 1689, and his wife Margaret Ingles. Most of them are descendants of >his grandson Benjamin, son of Benjamin and Nancy McMillian, and his brother >Joel who married a woman named Mary ________. Benjamin settled in what is >now Webster County; Joel in what is now Braxton County. >Patrick's origin is unproved. The leading theory is that Patrick himself >came from Ireland. But there are theories about Hamricks having been in >Ireland, England, Holland, Germany, France and/or Norway. > > >dhamrick@neo.rr.com >Dan Hamrick >402 23rd Street NW >Canton OH 44709 >Phone and fax: 330-454-2376 > > > > >---------- > >From: "Cynthia Brown" <pocotwo@hotmail.com> > >To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [HAMRICK-L] Patrick/George > >Date: Sat, Jan 8, 2000, 8:48 PM > > > > >The Hamricks from W.Va. my dad always said they were from German decent > >which was told to him by passing down info from the ages. I wonder if >this > >is true? > >Cindy > > > > > >>From: Bill Davenport <davenport@brooksdata.net> > >>Reply-To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com > >>To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com > >>Subject: [HAMRICK-L] Patrick/George > >>Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 08:52:42 -0600 > >> > >>Good Morning: > >> > >>JR, I have most certainly received your comments as well as those others > >>who took the time to write. You’ll have to bear with me if I do not > >>respond as quickly as you might like. In addition to other aspects of > >>living, I’m researching several other names and Hamrick is not really > >>top priority. At the moment, I’m reflecting on life in the year 2000. > >>As an eighteen year old serving in the Regular United States Navy, my > >>shipmates and I discussed the possibility of living until the next > >>century, and what it might be like. Don’t know about the others but I > >>made it to 2000 and I’m proud to be here. > >> > >>Back to the comments. I appreciate them, even the references to > >>membership in the Flat Earth Society. Thank you all for the information > >>you’ve passed along. Everything helps. > >> > >>It would unrealistic to think that everything we come across is error > >>free. We don’t know if written records were recorded correctly. We > >>don’t know if persons reading and transcribing records have interpreted > >>them accurately. With very little information about the stones at the > >>Street Hamrick home place, I have no way of knowing whether they are > >>recent or have been in place many years, or who placed them there. I > >>did notice that the monument to Patrick Hamrick was erected in September > >>1999. It seems to echo exactly what you preach. Was it built by > >>supporting members of this list? ( only joking) > >> > >>Returning to the regurgitation of bad genealogy, if Patrick Hamrick was > >>the first, where are all the Patrick Hamricks? If Moses Richard did not > >>exist, why did Price Hamrick have sons named Moses and Richard? If > >>Price’s father was Jeremiah, why don’t we see a son named Jeremiah? Why > >>are there so many George Hamricks both laying down and walking around? > >>(These irritants, Patrick supporters, just won’t go away, will they?) > >> > >> >From available records there apparently was a ship named Snow Lowther > >>and it came to Philadelphia in 1731 with a load of Germans, among whom > >>was a man named Hans Jeurg Hamerich. He apparently married another > >>German named Nancy Cook. They likely had children. What happened to > >>those children? Did they just vanish? > >> > >>How did the folks in North Carolina know about Moses Richard and Hans > >>George? Were they just ignorant hillbillies who knew nothing? Did they > >>just pull names out of thin air so as to confuse subsequent > >>generations? Did they go so far as to erect phony tombstones? > >> > >>On the LDS site, upon entering the name Patrick Hamrick, one file says > >>he was the son of Hans George. Ironic, huh? > >> > >>After I sent my original message to the list, I received a couple of > >>messages from people who said they no longer send anything to the list > >>because they had been put down for whatever dissenting opinions they > >>expressed. That isn’t nice, Patrick descendants. Even if 95% of the > >>list supports the Patrick notion, that doesn’t make it correct. > >> > >>Anyway, folks, I don’t have all the answers and I don’t think you do, > >>either. Hopefully, we’ll learn more. Maybe something that will satisfy > >>everybody. > >> > >>Bill Davenport > >> > >> > > > >______________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I just wanted to say thank you to those who helped me with Price and Sarah Davis. I have just started looking into this line, and yall (yes, I'm from Texas) were awesome. Now I have a good starting point. I noticed that a few of yall have my ggggrandfather listed as Edgar and not Charles. What is the source of that information? Thanks again Christy

Hi Patsy, I have a Mary Hamrick (1882-1966), daughter of Henry M. & Nancy [Peyton] Hamrick, who married S.J. SIMS -- do you happen to have this Sims in your database?? Jane --------- >Subject: [HAMRICK-L] McCray - Bennett - McCally -Starnes - Conrad - Harris -Hamrick -Weikart >Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 07:56:32 -0800 >From: Patsy H Weikart <qmgen@juno.com> >To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com >My line to the above names: Minor H. McCray -Ireland Robert McCray SR. - Rebecca Sims - Virginia Robert McCray JR. - b.may 1794 Highland county, VA - d. 1867 Lewis Co,WV. -married Margaret (Margerette)Bennett on 20 July 1817 Lewis Co,VA. James McCray -b. 19 Oct 1819 Lewis Co,WV - d. 13 Jan 1861 married Amanda Jane Berry 19 Aug 1841 Braxton County,Va (WV) Mary Jane McCray -b. 30 May 1842 Upshur County, -d. 14 Oct 1927 Hacker Valley,Webster County, WV at the home of her daughter Cassie Robinson - married to Benjamin Currence Conrad -b. 15 Sept 1841 Braxton Co,VA - d. 15 Nov 1920 at Webster Springs,Webster County, WV. Marriage date 15 Nov 1866 in Upshur County by Rev. William Lisk. Ada Mae Conrad -b. 24 March 1875 Replete, Webster County,WV. -d. 24 Oct 1967 at Webster Springs Memorial Hospital, Webster County, WV. Married Thomas "Bud" Harris - b. 10 March 1868 Webster Springs,Webster County (Cherry Falls)wv. - d. 3 Sept 1938 Buckhannon Hospital, Upshur County, WV. Married on 8 Jan 1901 ,Webster Springs,Wv. Effie "Arthelia" Harris - b. 28 Dec 1905 Webster Springs, WV.(Webster Co.) died 4 December 1961 Webster Springs Memorial Hospital of a blood clot after surgery. Married Paris McLaughlin Hamrick -b. 2 Jan 1894 on Point Mountain, Webster County near Webster Springs,WV. on 14 Jan. 1926. Patsy Lou Hamrick -b. 10 July 1937 Paintertown (Valley Head, Randolph County, WV. Married Robert Louis Weikart -b. 5 Jan 1931 Sewickley, Allegheny County, PA. Married 30 September 1958 Webster Springs Meth. Church,Webster County, WV. Would like to make contact with cousins, Patsy lou in Southern California

Hi Christy, I have Price HAMRICK (abt 1837-1888) m. Sarah Elizabeth DAVIS (1841-?) on 31 Aug 1865, Cleveland, North Carolina. They have a daughter, Carrie, who married Edgar McCURRY. The Price HAMRICK I have is the son of Richard and Mary [Wall] HAMRICK. I’m sure you’ll hear from others on the board, but I think this info all came from J R McKinney. Jane -------------------- Subject: [HAMRICK-L] Price and Sarah ? Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:26:08 -0600 From: "Christy Beth" <christybeth@ev1.net> To: HAMRICK-L@rootsweb.com I am looking for Price who married a Sarah Robinson? in Shelby, NC. One of the children is Carrie who married Charles McCurry. Thanks