Hi Helen, I've been corresponding with a SC Hamrick who would be interested in the Hamrick reunion in Cleveland County, however, I've lost the original message giving pertinent info on when & where. Would it be too much to ask if you could e-mail the info to him? Thank you so much for your help. Judy [email protected]

> Jerry & others, > > With all the recent discussion I have forgotten who the > Joseph Byers is that you were looking for and what his > relationship is to the Hamrick family. > > J R J R, I had requested information on Joseph Byers. He married Nancy Blanton, daughter of Burwell Blanton and Phoebia Margaret Bridges. Various children and grandchildren of Joseph Byers intermarried with Hamricks; including his granddaugher, Cansas Ellen Byers, who married my great-grandfather, James Young "JY" Hamrick. I was hoping someone else might have worked out that family line a bit farther. Ted Smith [email protected]

With apologies, I would like to request that the original information here on the first and second generation of the Hamricks be repeated. I lost some data from my hard drive and missed the first installment. I prefer not to read a book backwards.

Richard M. Hamrick, Jr. wrote: > > ---------- > From: [email protected][SMTP:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, May 03, 1998 5:22 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: HAMRICK-D Digest V98 #55 > > I have certainly enjoyed the discussion of the first three generations of Patrick the First's children. I have only one complaint as follows: > > Isn't there someone on the net somewhere who is a descendent of John who married Nancy Hazelrigg. She died prior to 1805 and he died circa 1815 in Loudoun County, VA. > > His sons: Daniel, died after 1850 probably in Salt Creek Township, Ohio > William, died Dec 29, 1850 Wayne Township, Muskingum County, OH > Henry, died after August 28, 1950 in Brush Creek Township, Muskingum County, OH > James, died before Sept 21, 1825, Frederick County, VA. His widow, Charlotte Shull moved to OH > Elijah, died Taylor County, WV, in 1873 > Peyton which is my line, died Augusta county, VA > August 7, 1855. > John Hamrick, Jr. I have no records > > Daughters: Nancy, possibly married John Matthews in Muskingum County, OH in June 1822 She would be in her forties at this date. > Susannah: no records in my files. > > Sometime I feel like the proverbial misfit at a family reunion. I'm kin to all of you, I just don't know how or where. > > Richard M. Hamrick, Jr. > [email protected] > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Part 1.2 Type: application/ms-tnef > Encoding: base64 Richard, Are you simply looking for other relatives to the same line, or are you looking for information on the line? If it is the latter, then what do you want to know? One thing you should know for sure is that John didn't died in Loudoun County. Are you the Richard in Staunton, VA? Was someone in the family connected with a funeral home or something? Also what format is the file you attached to the note? I have not seen that file extension before, and I am wondering what program it works with. Steven A. Bridges [email protected]

J. R. and other, here's a copy of a note I sent a while back on my recent Hamrick line. Joseph W. Hamrick had three wives. I knew of two from my aunt who helped me 37 years ago when I was starting in genealogy. I wrote down her information on a femily tree poster and then, recently when I got serious about all this, I couldn't confirm the first wife and concluded that I had made a mistake those many years ago. But, I got independent confirmation recently: His first wife was Mary Lanicks. I know nothing more about her. His second wife was Frances Cogar. Joseph and Frances had eight children. Joseph's third wife was Margaret Burris (Burrows). They had ten children. He died about 1885 at age about 92. I will put together additional information on this line (Despite all those children I think I'm the only one researching this line!) and post it to the list. --Dick Ross

Some of the Hamrick/Hazelrigg children were in upper Ky in the early part of the 1800's. Without finding my papers I couldn't tell you where or when. But I know I found some there. Darlene Gleason Richard M. Hamrick, Jr. wrote: > > ---------- > From: [email protected][SMTP:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, May 03, 1998 5:22 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: HAMRICK-D Digest V98 #55 > > I have certainly enjoyed the discussion of the first three generations of Patrick the First's children. I have only one complaint as follows: > > Isn't there someone on the net somewhere who is a descendent of John who married Nancy Hazelrigg. She died prior to 1805 and he died circa 1815 in Loudoun County, VA. > > His sons: Daniel, died after 1850 probably in Salt Creek Township, Ohio > William, died Dec 29, 1850 Wayne Township, Muskingum County, OH > Henry, died after August 28, 1950 in Brush Creek Township, Muskingum County, OH > James, died before Sept 21, 1825, Frederick County, VA. His widow, Charlotte Shull moved to OH > Elijah, died Taylor County, WV, in 1873 > Peyton which is my line, died Augusta county, VA > August 7, 1855. > John Hamrick, Jr. I have no records > > Daughters: Nancy, possibly married John Matthews in Muskingum County, OH in June 1822 She would be in her forties at this date. > Susannah: no records in my files. > > Sometime I feel like the proverbial misfit at a family reunion. I'm kin to all of you, I just don't know how or where. > > Richard M. Hamrick, Jr. > [email protected] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Part 1.2 Type: application/ms-tnef > Encoding: base64

---------- From: [email protected][SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, May 03, 1998 5:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: HAMRICK-D Digest V98 #55 I have certainly enjoyed the discussion of the first three generations of Patrick the First's children. I have only one complaint as follows: Isn't there someone on the net somewhere who is a descendent of John who married Nancy Hazelrigg. She died prior to 1805 and he died circa 1815 in Loudoun County, VA. His sons: Daniel, died after 1850 probably in Salt Creek Township, Ohio William, died Dec 29, 1850 Wayne Township, Muskingum County, OH Henry, died after August 28, 1950 in Brush Creek Township, Muskingum County, OH James, died before Sept 21, 1825, Frederick County, VA. His widow, Charlotte Shull moved to OH Elijah, died Taylor County, WV, in 1873 Peyton which is my line, died Augusta county, VA August 7, 1855. John Hamrick, Jr. I have no records Daughters: Nancy, possibly married John Matthews in Muskingum County, OH in June 1822 She would be in her forties at this date. Susannah: no records in my files. Sometime I feel like the proverbial misfit at a family reunion. I'm kin to all of you, I just don't know how or where. Richard M. Hamrick, Jr. [email protected]

Common Pleas Court July Term, 1857 John J Hamrick, Franklin Mathew(s), Oliver Mathew(s) defendants. 12 Dec 1850 Eliza Werts as an apprentice to William Hamick, deceased, she lived with William until his death. William having died a month ago, Nov 1850. In 1842 she made a bargain with William to live with him at the price of $1.00 per week clear of board and room. 26 Aug, 1842, she settled with William the sum of $52.00 due her from William and again she bargained with William to live with him or $1.00 per week up to 14 Oct 1847. She was to receive $2.00 per week so long as she worked and took care of him. She did so until 16 Mar 1850. When a reciting of the foregoing agreement was made and signed by William appraising the sum of $50.00 was due to Eliza. The land was seized and possessed in Wayne Township, Musk. Co containing 44 acs sold to Eliza. Willliam died having no widow but left one son and grandchildren who are his heirs at law. Son John, two minor grandsons, sons of a daughter dec'd, Franklin and Oliver Mathew(s), and who parents are deceased. Nancy Hambrick to John Mathew, 2 June 1822, Musk. Co OH

I believe that Nancy who married the Matthews was a dau. of William. Tressie

They were cousins. Tressie in OKC

Regarding.... > FACT 3: Not a fact... Patrick HAMRICK Sr. did NOT inherit land from > Elizabeth DAY when she died. Patrick HAMRICK Sr went to court to claim > inheritance from Roger DAY, Elizabeth's father. Patrick basically > established that he was the only (or the closest) living relative to > Roger DAY. If PAtrick had inherited the land from Elizabeth, then a > court case would not have been needed. Perhaps a minor point, but we > need to be careful not to get the "facts" as few as there are, mixed up. > Not picking on you Jill, but want to make sure they group that claims > that Patrick married Elizabeth DAY don't have an opening that doesn't > exist. Steven, do you know what the basis was for Patrick's claiming kinship to Roger Day? How were they related? I hadn't heard of this twist until today. Thanks, Ted Smith [email protected]

To all, One, I do not profess to ask people to accept my theory as "Gospel" because it isn't. It's the best guess at this time. The best way to attack it is not to try and prove it, but to try and disprove it. But I will agree that we should accept a basic framework, and move on to the next generations keeping in mind that we always need to look for better information.. As for Sarah Hambrick.. I will answer your note later tonight and explain. You have your Joseph's mixed up, and it is easy to do because I had the same problem. It is a very long explanation so it may take a while, be patient... Steven A. Bridges J R. McKinney wrote: > > Steve and others, > > I agree with Steve's data on the first two generations. > I was missing that Patrick Jr was born in Richmond Co, Va. > and had him born in Prince William or King George. > > Sarah Hamrick asked you about Joseph who left Va. Elsewhere > you had that Joseph moved to Bedford Co, Va; Franklin Co, Va; > Wilkes Co, NC; and on to Greene Co, Ga where he died. > While he was in Franklin Co, Va he and his son Joseph were > probably recorded at the same time. > > I also agree with you and others that we should accept > what you have presented as the "Gospel" for now and work > on the third generation on down and try to discover new > data on grandchildren and their descendants. > > That is basically what I am trying to do with the Hamrick > web page. Put down the best current descendants and asking > anyone who finds new data to contact me and help change it. > I need a lot of help. > > J R > J R

TLNEALY wrote: > > Where did Mr. Barger and Sarah Hambrick marry? Tressie in OKC Chattanooga, TN. (may be spelled right.. but you get the idea) Steven A. Bridges

And to add to the confusion . . . a typo for item 1. My message from yesterday said "Barger bible shows Sarah ABERNATHY married William S. STONE." it should have said: "Barger bible shows Sarah ABERNATHY married William S. BARGER." >BARGER Family >1. William Stone BARGER was born in Beardstown, Perry Co., TN 3-Jan-1834. He married twice. He married Martha Jane ATCHISON 17-Jun-1860. Martha was divorced from William Stone Barger 9-Oct-1868. He married Sarah Melvina HAMBRICK 22-Oct-1868. Sarah was born in Chattanooga, TN 14-Feb-1845. Sarah . . . . . etc.< Karla

Steven, et al: ~ Got it, must of picked that one up from the group that claims Elizabeth was his wife, sorry about that. I have updated my records.....other comment follows..... : FACT 3: Not a fact... Patrick HAMRICK Sr. did NOT inherit land from : Elizabeth DAY when she died. Patrick HAMRICK Sr went to court to claim : inheritance from Roger DAY, Elizabeth's father. Patrick basically : established that he was the only (or the closest) living relative to : Roger DAY. If PAtrick had inherited the land from Elizabeth, then a : court case would not have been needed. Perhaps a minor point, but we : need to be careful not to get the "facts" as few as there are, mixed up. : Not picking on you Jill, but want to make sure they group that claims : that Patrick married Elizabeth DAY don't have an opening that doesn't : exist. : ~Since all we know is that Ben Sr. is the most likely candidate for father of my Samuel, are there suggestions of records I can search to tie this one down, while I am in SLC? The best fit is Benjamin Sr.. plus they lived in the same : county whereas Patrick HAMRICK Jr lived in Prince William County.. not : proof, but the closest we have for now until something better is found. : > Rappanhanock Co., VA, w/ 60-70 yr female Fact 4: 1810 Census Culpeper VA p : > 96 Fact 5: 1820 Census Culpeper VA p 81 : > 4 Nimrod Nathaniel HAMRICK Born: February 25, 1790 in VA d: : > August 25, 1865 in Pioneer Cemetery, Ione,CA Fact 1: 1814-1817 Culpeper Co. : > VA Tax List Fact 2: 1820 1820 Fayette Co. KY p 91 census Fact 3: 1830 : > Jefferson Co. KY p177 census Fact 4: 1840 Jefferson Co KY p 149 census Fact : > 5: January 16, 1816 Marriage Book #1 Culpeper VA p 96 : The rest is yours and I wouldn't comment. ~Thanks, Jill : Steven A. Bridges : [email protected] :

I would like to find proof to connect my Samuel b 1766 to Benjamin Sr. I am going to SLC and this search is on my list of to do's. Can anyone direct me to the sources I might utilize to accomplish this task? thanks for any advice, Jill

Where did Mr. Barger and Sarah Hambrick marry? Tressie in OKC

Jerry & others, With all the recent discussion I have forgotten who the Joseph Byers is that you were looking for and what his relationship is to the Hamrick family. J R

Steve and others, I agree with Steve's data on the first two generations. I was missing that Patrick Jr was born in Richmond Co, Va. and had him born in Prince William or King George. Sarah Hamrick asked you about Joseph who left Va. Elsewhere you had that Joseph moved to Bedford Co, Va; Franklin Co, Va; Wilkes Co, NC; and on to Greene Co, Ga where he died. While he was in Franklin Co, Va he and his son Joseph were probably recorded at the same time. I also agree with you and others that we should accept what you have presented as the "Gospel" for now and work on the third generation on down and try to discover new data on grandchildren and their descendants. That is basically what I am trying to do with the Hamrick web page. Put down the best current descendants and asking anyone who finds new data to contact me and help change it. I need a lot of help. J R J R

[email protected] wrote: > > > Better yet, if anyone has documents proving the above, I, for one, would > love copies <G>. And I definitely agree with you, Stephen, - the works by > S. C. Jones and by Mrs. McSwain are definitely flawed. I haven't seen the > new books by Joyce Moody, but look forward to finding them on my library's > shelf. But, if all the Hamrick researchers feel they are totally accurate > and complete and totally documented (which, until Steven's message was the > impression I've been getting lately on the Hamrick list), I really wonder > why the rest of us are bothering with continued research. > > Pat Pat, We do it because we love to be tortured, and spend hours trying to find an elusive piece of information that nobody else gives a rat's a** about, but we need it. Genealogy is an addictive habit... What do you consider documentation? I can referred you to records that help support or confirm most of my version of the first two generations. Since I don't want to write the next Hamrick Generations, tell me what items interest you most and I will tell you where to look. Don't tell me everything because I will ignore you ... sorry.. but true. I can document most, if not all, the first two generations.. gets harder after that... I would suspect that J. R. McKinney can also document the first two generations as he has a pretty good collection of HAMRICK data. J.R., do you have any documents which would disprove any part of the first two generations? or better yet, prove it! Steven A. Bridges [email protected]