This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5538/VUh.2ACIB/129.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello there Thank you so much for all the info. You have inspired me to try and sort out something we had all taken from granted - the identity of Beatrice Hancock, Joseph and Mary's witness. Joseph's wife, Mary Emily McGregor, had a sister Ellen, who married a Len Hancock in 1898, and we had all assumed that Beatrice was a relation from that side of the family. But I have gone through the Hancocks on the Census (they came from Stoke-on-Trent), but not found a Beatrice amongst them, so that may, in the end, just be coincidence. So that's back to the pending file. Another coincidence - one of my classmates at primary school in Winton was called Derbyshire, Martin of that ilk. This would be in the late 1950s - do you know if he is one of 'your' Derbyshires? Last night there was a TV programme in a series called 'Time Team', which is a sort of popular archaeology programme, in which they dug up some mill workers' houses in the centre of Manchester, and the truly desperate living conditions made Diamond Court come horribly alive. I'll send the photos direct. Best wishes Ian