This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hampson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/VUh.2ACIB/129.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Hi Ian, I've decided to order the marriage certificate of Ann Hampson and the birth certificate of her son, John Smith. Assuming I have picked the correct references, they should confirm that Ann's husband is William Smith and should give us some idea of where Ann's family were living. In addition, and all things being equal, those certificates should, in some way, support the census information you have found for Ellen Smith and mother Ann. There were not too many Jonathan Hampsons around in Stretford at the time of Ann's marriage, so it should be relatively easy to gauge whether I have ordered the correct marriage certificate. Hopefully the witnesses to the marriage may prove helpful too. I took this path because I have next to no information on Ann Hampson after her birth. Thank you very much for sending the census information on the Smiths of Stretford. best wishes Maxine

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hampson Hulme Brundrett Clough Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/VUh.2ACIB/129.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Ian, Hope you received the information on John Hulme/John Hampson b. 1831 Stretford, son of John Hulme and Catherine (Brundrett) Hulme, later Hampson. I experienced some difficulty trying to explain the convulated relationship, it woud not be a surprise to me if I have got one of the many John's mixed up (Clough, Hulme and Hampson) and used the wrong surname in the wrong context. I have had a look at the census information you forwarded to me- Jonathan & Catherine Hampson - Yes, I agree that you have found the right households. I also agree that is more likely that Catherine was to some degree dependent upon the parish for financial support. William & Mary Hampson - I don't have a ready explanation for William's occupation of herbalist. Perhaps a variation of 'market gardener'. Nothing springs to mind that sounds like herbalist that could have confused the enumerator at the time. Jonathan & Mary Hampson - Yes I agree that you have found the right households. Yes it is very likely that his daughter Ellen b. c. 1861 is the same girl present in her aunt's household in 1881. Aunt Martha is the widow of James Hampson, the later is Jonathan's younger brother. James & Martha Hampson Yep, I agree with your references. I found widow, Martha Hampson, at 7 Trafford Grove Stretford at reference RG12/3160 f15 pg24 sch. 135. I also agree with your reference for their son Jonathan in the 1901 census. Over the weekend I should get time to look at Ann (Hampson) Smith, her son John and daughter Ellen. best wishes Maxine

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/VUh.2ACIB/129.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Hi Maxine Armed with the info about Ellen Smith, present at Catherine's death, I worked backwards and forwards on the census, and Ann Hampson does seem to be the connection. 1861 RG9/2875 f.35 - Glebe Road, Gorton William Smith (b1837, Timperley CHS, brick maker), Ann (b.1839, Stretford), Samuel (b.1861, Stretford) 1871 RG10/3971 f.64 - 2 Taylors Square, Chester Road William, Ann, John W (b1860 Stretford), Ellen (b1864 Stretford), Alice (b1868 Stretford), Mary J. (b1870 Stretford) 1881 RG11/3888 f.87 - 11 Taylors Square William (now general labourer), Ann, John W. (gen. lab.), Alice (nurse girl), Mary J., Annie (b.1873 Stretford), Kate (b.1875 Stretford), Amy (b1877 Stretford) 1881 RG 11/3888 f.113 - 89 King Street (head: John Lowe) Ellen (domestic servant) 1891 RG12/3159 f.117 - 11 Taylors Square William (now Local Board navvy), Ann, John W (washerwoman's packer), Alice (laundress), Mary J. (box maker), Amy, Jemima (b1882 Stretford) and Elizabeth G (grand-daughter b1889 Stretford) 1901 RG13/3665 f.93 - 1 Lacy Street, Stretford William (gen. lab.), Ann, John William (shipper's packer), Alice (no occ.), Mary Jane (junket powder maker), Kate, Amy (also junket powder maker), Jemima (buttonhole maker), and Elizabeth Gertrude (no occ.) So it looks as if the John that was linving at Diamond Court in 1861 is the same as the John William of later years. So thanks for the info. Best wishes Ian

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/VUh.2ACIB/129.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi again This is what I have on Jonathan's family from the census. I have some doubts about the connections on occasion, but at the worst, they're close (if not exact) fits. 1851: HO107/2218 f.585 - 18 Diamond Court, Stretford Present are: Jonathan (gardener), Catherine, John (ag. lab), William (ag. lab), Jonathan (ag. lab.), Ann, James, Joseph and Mary. Place of birth given as Manchester, except for Catherine (Altrincham). 1861: RG9/2218 f.85 that you mention. I agree that the most likely Smith connection is via Ann 1871: RG10/3971 f.101 - Diamond Court, Stretford (no house number) Present are: Catherine (hawker), Joseph (warehouseman), Mary (general servant) 1881:RG11/3888 f.122 - Church View, Stretford (no house number) Present are: Catherine (annuitant), Joseph (packer) 'Annuitant'? Perhaps she was in receipt of some charitable money from the parish - it seems a little unlikely that she would have had investments... Now John's family 1861: RG9/2867 f.37 - Grove Lane North, Didsbury Present are: John (b.1834, Manchester, gardener), wife Sarah (b.1832 Didsbury), Mary Ann (b.1856 Didsbury), John (b.1859, Didsbury). The birth date doesn't quite square, but it's close, and his occupation fits with that of his father. 1871: RG10/3973 f.67 - Cross Street, Barlow Moor, Didsbury Present are: John (gardener, domestic), Sarah (laundress), Mary Ann and Samuel (b.1862 Didsbury) 1881: RG 11/3890 f.71 - Cross Street, Queenston, Didsbury Present are: John (b.1831, Manchester, former labourer), Sarah (charwoman), Mary Ann (charwoman) and two unrelated boarders. 1891: RG12/3161 f.65 - 16 Cross Street, Didsbury Present are: Sarah and Mary Ann (both laundresses) 1901: RG13/3669 f.87 - 16 Cross Street, Didsbury Present is: Sarah (laundress), plus two unrelated boarders William's family you've got sorted, but I was suprised to see his occupation in 1871 given as 'stoker at gas works and herbalist' - an odd combination! Jonathan II's family 1861: RG9/2865 f.68 - Chester Road, Stretford Present are: Jonathan (ag. lab.), wife Mary (b1835 Northenden CHS, charwoman), Alice (b.1858 Stretford), Sarah J. (b1860 Stretford). NB Mary Burgess appears in 1851 as a house servant at Lawton Moor, Northenden (head: Joseph Royle). 1871: RG10/3971 f.70 - 5 Pearson's Buildings, Chester Road, Stretford Present are: Jonathan (farm labourer), Mary, Ellen (b.1862 Stretford), Mary J. (b.1864 Stretford), John (b.1865 Stretford), Elizabeth (b.1870 Stretford) 1881:RG11/3888 f.83 - same address Present are: Jonathan (general labourer), John (no occ.) and Elizabeth 1891: RG12/3164 f.106 - Chorlton Union workhouse, Withington Jonathan (gardener) is an inmate James's family 1871: RG10/3971 f.16 - 3 & 4 Yew Tree Terrace, Chester Road, Stretford Present are: James (gardener), wife Mary (b.1845 Stretford), Mary Jane (b.1868, Stretford) Jonathan (b.1870 Stretford). 1881: RG11/3888 f.70 - 7 Trafford Grove, Stretford Present are: Mary (b. 1844 Beswick, laundress), Jonathan, Edith (b. 1872 Stretford), Martha (b.1875 Stretford), Clara (b.1877, Stretford) and Ellen (Jonathan II's daughter, box maker) 1891: can't find them 1901: RG13/3673 f.12 - 68 Whitefield Road, Chorlton-cum-Hardy Present are: Jonathan (plumber), wife Martha (b.1872, Stretford), Mary (b.1900, Chorlton-cum-Hardy), Herbert (b.1901, Chorlton-cum-Hardy) and an unrelated visitor. and RG13/3665 f.118 - 23 Trafford Grove, Stretford Present are: Martha [sic widow, b.1843, can't read the occupation], Mary J. (b.1833, paper cutter), Edith A. (b.1872, box maker), Clara (b. 1877, box maker) and an unrelated boarder. And that's it. Can't find Ann after 1851, Joseph after 1881, nor Mary after 1871, so there's still some work to do. Best wishes Ian

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hampson Brundrett Hulme Kinsey Burgess Blair Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VUh.2ACIB/129.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Ian, I do have a reference for the 1841 Census, which is, HO107/584/13 f.24 pg.6-7. They were living at Diamond Court, Stretford and present were - Jonathan Hampson 40 Catie Hampson 40 William Hampson 7 Jonathan Hampson 5 Ann Hampson 2 John Hulme 9. Except for Catherine, all were born in the county of Lancashire. Unfortunately, the 1841 Census only tells whether or not those listed were born in the county in which they were residing at that time. If it is any help, the 1861 Cenus (ref. RG9/2865 f. 85 pg.17 sch.93) lists their place of birth as Stretford Lancs, except for Catherine, which is Altrincham CHS. John Hulme is Catherine's son from her first marriage to John Hulme in 1829 at Manchester Cathedral. John Hulme was buried at St Matthews Stretford 1831. Their son, John Hulme, was baptised just before his father's death, in Oct 1831, also at St Matthews. Catherine (Brundrett) Hulme married Jonathan Hampson 27 Dec 1833 at Manchester Cathedral. The entry initially stated the groom was John Hampson but 'John' was struck out and replaced by Jonathan. I have not been able to locate Jonathan's baptism at St Matthews Stretford. All I have found is a baptism entry for John Hampson s. of William & Ann Hampson Stretford dated 12 June 1803. I have not found anything at Manchester (IGI -online). Both, Catherine and Jonathan's burial entries appear in St Matthew's Stretford, but I do not have a grave reference. I have Jonathan's death certificate and he died 19 Dec 1865 at Diamond Court ,Stretford, aged 61 years. Mary Mufey of Diamond Court Stretford present at his death. Catherine died 17 Sep 1887 at 29 Moore Street Stretford, aged 79 yrs. Ellen Smith, granddaughter, of 89 Highfield Terrace King St., Stretford present at her death. Their son William married Mary Kinsey in 1854. Son, Jonathan married Mary Burgess in 1857 at Manchester Cathedral. Daughter Ann, was born in 1839 at Stretford. I suspect she married someone with the surname of Smith. (Not very helpful) James was born in 1843 at Stretford and married Martha Blair in 1867 at St John's Manchester. Ian, you mentioned that you have found some census information for Jonathan's other sons. Yes, I would like a copy. If its easier for you, the references for each census would be very helpful. I'll send that photo to you direct over the week end. best wishes Maxine

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5538/VUh.2ACIB/129.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello again Yes please, I'd love to see a photo of James and Mary. I think my Derbyshire classmate is just a coincidence - the name just bubbled up from the recesses of my memory whilst I was reading your message. Len Hancock (b.1876), who married Ellen MacGregor was the only child (as far as I can see) of Edwin Hancock and his wife Hannah. All three were born in the area of Stoke-on-Trent (Hanley and Longport), and worked in the pottery industry. Edwin was the son of another Edwin - I've traced some of his immediate descendants through the census, but there is no Isaac amongst them. I managed to find Jonathan Hampson on the 1851 Census, still in Diamond Court, and working as a gardener, and have traced some of the descendants of his other sons, but have come to a full stop going further back, until I can get a look at 1841 to see if his birthplace is given as something more exact than 'Manchester'. If you haven't got any of that info, I'll send it on if you're interested. Best wishes Ian

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Darbyshire Derbyshire Hancock Hampson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VUh.2ACIB/129.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Ian, I received those photos last night. Thank you. It is great to see them. I've only had a quick look through them and will have a more leisurely look over the weekend. Unfortunately, family and work committments take most of my time during the week. I really do appreciate allowing me to share those photos. Its great to put a face to a name on a chart. If you are interested, I can send a photo of James Hampson and wife Mary (Derbyshire) Hampson to you over the weekend. Regarding your Derbyshire of Winton, I do not know. My Darbyshire/Derbyshire family start around the very late 1600s in Ashton upon Mersey, also some are at Sale, Cheshire. I assume there is a link to families in Flixton and Urmston but have yet to establish a definite link. In the end, I assume they are all related in some way. Regarding Beatrice Gertrude Hancock who married James Derbyshire in 1918, I have dug out that marriage entry. Beatrice is 38yrs, spinster of 1 Cavendish Rd., Urmston and the daughter of Isaac Edward Hancock dec'd farm labourer. Christian name looks like Isaac but I'm not 100% certain. Incidentally James Derbyshire was residing at 46 Pinnington Lane Stretford, which is where James & Mary Hampson lived for many years before their deaths. One of the witnesses to the marriage was Emily Hampson, a daughter of James & Mary and elder sister to my Minnie. The other witness was Henry Hancock. I do not know why James & Beatrice married so late in life, it was the 1st marriage for James too, given that they knew each other since 1898. In 1920 James Derbyshire remarries. He is a widower of 46 Pinnington Lane Stretford and married Annie Kearns of 18 Lacy Street Stretford. Over the weekend I will assemble what little information I have on Jonathan and Catherine Hampson, parents of William, the later is the father of our James & Joseph. Yes, I don't envy their circumstances regarding Diamond Court. It is a wonder that so many survived and you and I are here. best wishes Maxine

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5538/VUh.2ACIB/129.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello there Thank you so much for all the info. You have inspired me to try and sort out something we had all taken from granted - the identity of Beatrice Hancock, Joseph and Mary's witness. Joseph's wife, Mary Emily McGregor, had a sister Ellen, who married a Len Hancock in 1898, and we had all assumed that Beatrice was a relation from that side of the family. But I have gone through the Hancocks on the Census (they came from Stoke-on-Trent), but not found a Beatrice amongst them, so that may, in the end, just be coincidence. So that's back to the pending file. Another coincidence - one of my classmates at primary school in Winton was called Derbyshire, Martin of that ilk. This would be in the late 1950s - do you know if he is one of 'your' Derbyshires? Last night there was a TV programme in a series called 'Time Team', which is a sort of popular archaeology programme, in which they dug up some mill workers' houses in the centre of Manchester, and the truly desperate living conditions made Diamond Court come horribly alive. I'll send the photos direct. Best wishes Ian

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hampson Kinsey Derbyshire Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VUh.2ACIB/129.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi again, Ian, thank you very much for the information on Joseph's descendents. The latest information I have on Joseph Hampson is his marriage which occurred in 1898. I have a copy of their marriage entry on 24/08/1898 at St Matthew's Stretford. The witnesses were James Derbyshire and Beatrice Hancock, who themselves later married at that same Church in 1918 and James is also Mary (Derbyshire) Hampson's younger brother who resided with James & Mary Hampson at the time of the 1901 Census. I also have Joseph's birth certificate. He was born at Holts Place, King Street Stretford on 22/03/1874 and mother's maiden name was Kinsey. Back to William & Mary Hampson, parents of James (1863 - c. 1944) and Joseph (b. 1874). William Hampson married Mary Kinsey at Manchester on 30 July 1854. First marriage for both parties and William was 21 yrs and Mary 20 yrs. Fathers are Jonathan Hampson, gardener and William Kinsey, sawyer. William resided at Moore St., Stretford and Mary at Moss Lane Hulme. Both signed with their mark and witnesses were Benjamin Johnson and Ellen Wood. Their daughter Hannah was born 23/09/1854 at Chester Rd., Stretford but died 5 days later at the same address on 28/09/1854. The IGI has baptisms of children of William & Mary Hampson at Manchester Cathedral but I do not know whether they refer to our couple. They are - Joseph 7/2/1858 Elizabeth Mary 3/6/1860. At the time of the 1861 Census they are living at Pool End Lane Stretford, ref : RG9/2865 f19 pg. 31 sch. 183, but there are no children listed in the household. I suspect that William & Mary had other children besides Hannah who also died very young but I have not located them as yet. Later, I have found the birth of James Hampson at Holt Place Stretford on 17 July 1863. He marries Mary Derbyshire in 1888, their daughter Minnie is my grandmother. Jonathan Hampson born 13/06/1865 at Holts Place Stretford but Jonathan dies a year later on 15/06/1866 at King St., Stretford. On 24 March 1867 Ellen is born at King Street Stretford. Mary Eliza was born Holt Place, King Street, Stretford on 25 October 1869. Ann was born 18 June 1872 at 3 Holt Place, King Street, Stretford but died 9 April 1874 at Holts Place, Stretford. Catherine Hampson of Diamond Court Stretford present at her death. Catherine is William Hampson's mother. Then in 1874, along came your Joseph. At the time of the 1891 Census William, Mary and son Joseph were living at 13 Pinnington Lane, Stretford (ref: RG12/3159 f54 pg 17 sch.99). One of your messages mentioned Diamond Court, Stretford. You're right , the name Diamond Court no longer exists but I don't know what replaced it. Diamond Court also appears a few times in relation to Jonathan & Catherine Hampson, their son Jonathan (William's brother) and their grandson James, who married Mary Derbyshire. Judging by the addresses found in their children's birth certificates, I think James & Mary Hampson moved out of Diamond Court about 1890. They eventually ended up in Pinnington Lane, Stretford. I have a copy of a booklet, Stretford People & Places 1918 - 1945 written by the Stretford Local History Society around 1985. Diamond Court gets a special mention , "Leslie Street was off Chester Road where Macdonalds now stands. Originally it was called Moore Street, after Henry Moore, whose large house at the end was Stretford's Post Office from 1870. On the left hand side Diamond Court was a misleading name for slums equal to the worst in Manchester. The back to back houses had cellar dwellings below with several families sharing the privvies. Water came from a pump. Even in Victorian times the unhealthy conditions were recognised and the area was demolished. Perhaps because of the street's reputation its name was changed in 1896. Sounds like they were really doing it tough. King Street , which I have heard was previously known as Toad Lane, together with its Courts/Lanes, disappeared in the 1960s and the area was redeveloped and replaced by a shopping centre, possibly the Kingsway. Mary Hampson died 6 December 1893 at 13 Tryford Place, Kings Street Stretford. Mary was 59 yrs and husband William present at her death. William died 5 September 1894 aged 60 yrs at 13 Tryford Place, Stretford. Son, James Hampson of 7 Temperance Place Stretford, present at death. Other than they were buried in Stretford, I do not know which cemetery they and their young children were buried at. I'll get back to you about William's parents, Jonathan & Catherine Hampson. If you have any old photographs of Joseph Hampson and his family, and are willing to share, I would be interested in seeing them. I have one of James Hampson, taken well before his death c. 1944. Hope to hear from you again. Maxine

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5538/VUh.2ACIB/129.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello again Joseph Hampson, my great-grandfather, was born in Stretford in 1874. He married Mary Emily McGregor on 21 Aug 1898, in Stretford. His occupation in 1898 was given as a mechanical engineer's packer. They lived in Harcourt Street, Stretford in 1898, and at 2 Nelson Street, Eccles in 1901. Mary was born in Liverpool in 1877, the daughter of James McGregor, who was either a sailor or a master mariner, depending on which family story you believe! Joseph died 30 May 1934, and is buried in Urmston Cemetery. Their children were Constance Rhoda, William, Christina and Doris Mary. Constance was born on 25 Dec 1898. She married Clifford Sumner in 1921. Clifford was born 19 Nov 1899 in Patricroft, and died 1990 in Winton. He was the son of Thomas and Mary Elizabeth Salisbury. Their only child was Norman, born 25 Jul 1921, in Patricroft, and died 11 May 2001 in Warrington. He married Rita Daphne Clarke, dtr of Francis James Clarke and Jean Inglis. She was born in Edinburgh on 21 Feb 1921 and died in warrington, on 14 Oct 2001. Their only child was yours truly. William was born 4 July 1901. he married Gertrude Mason 28 July 1928 in Flixton. He died 17 Dec 1965; she 12 March 1981. they had two children Betty (b. 1931) and William. He was certainly in the Army as a regular at one time, but I don't know the exact dates. Christina married Frank Gifford. They had two children, Bruce and Susan. Frank was also a soldier, but again I don't know the dates of his service. Doris Mary was born 1905. She married Francis Stanislaus Lambourne. He was born 9 Jan 1897, in Indore, India, and died 1 Jan 1958. Their children were Francis (b. 12 Nov 1932), Mary (2 July 1936) and Patsy (31 July 1943). Francis married Penelope Ann Birkett and had three children, Deborah Frances, Caron Jane and Simon John Thomas. he married again, but I don't know ghis second wife#s name. Mary married John Harrison. They have two children, Paul Andrew and Mark Simon. Patsy married John Dutton. They did not have any children. I had a look for Diamond Court on a modern map, but couldn't find it. It was just off Chester Road, I think, which is a main road, and passes between both Old Traffords, the football and the cricket grounds (IMHO what could be finer?). I think it must have been demolished. Well, that's my Hampson's. Any further info you have gratefully accepted, if you're willing. Best wishes Ian Ian Sumner Beverley East Yorkshire

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hampson Darbyshire Derbyshire Kinsey Brundrett Vaun Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VUh.2ACIB/129.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Ian, Yes we are related! I am descended from James & Mary Hampson (m. 1888), their daughter Minnie (1898-1957) emigrated to Australia in early 1924 and married a George Vaun from Essex, in Brisbane 1926. Minnie is my maternal grandmother. If I understand correctly, your Joseph is a younger brother to James. James Hampson was born 1863 in Stretford and his parents are William Hampson and Mary Kinsey. William Hampson was born in Stretford and Mary in Knutsford CHS. William's parents are Jonathan Hampson and Catherine (Brundrett) Hulme Hampson, William was from Catherine's second marriage. I have a little information on Mary Kinsey, if you are interested. Re - 1901 Census, James Derbyshire is Mary Hampson's younger brother. Mary was born in Sale CHS in 1868, I have her BC, and brother James was born in Ashton upon Mersey or Sale, CHS. If you are interested i am willing to share what I have found on the Hampson family. Hoping to hear from you again. Maxine Australia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/VUh.2ACIB/129.1 Message Board Post: Hello there I'vr only just started with Ancestry.com, so I've only just seen your message. I think we might be related.... In 1901, the family was at 4 Wellington Place, King Street, Stretford all the family (James was a general labourer) were there, as far as Ada, plus a boarder James Derbyshire, 22, labourer b Salford (a relative?). Mary's birthplace is given as Ashton-on-Mersey. In 1891, I have James & Mary (plus Mary Ellen and William) living at 14 Diamond Court, Stretford. His occupation is given as carter. Mary's birthplace is now given as Sale. In 1881, he is at 15 Diamond Court. The full household is: William, 47, gas stoker, b Stretford Mary, 46, b Streford James, 18, general labourer, b Stretford Eleanor, 14, scholar, b Stretford Mary Eliza, 11, scholar, b Stretford, and Joseph, 7, scholar, b Stretford Joseph was my great-grandfather. In 1871, the family were at 3 Holt Place, Peel Lane, Stretford William, 36, stoker at gas works and herbalist, b Stretford Mary, 36, b Knutsford (Cheshire) William, 10, scholar James, 8 scholar Ellen, 4, scholar Mary E, 1, scholar In 1861, the family was at what looks like 3 Peel End Lane, Stretford William 27 ag lab, b Streford Mary, 26 laundress, b Knutsford I haven't yet got any further back than that. What do you think? Best wishes Ian Ian Sumner Beverley East Yorkshire

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Just a quick correction - 1837 was the date of establishment of the general registration office. Registration births did not become compulsory until 1875. Deaths and marriages all had to be registered but only locally before 1837. Ralph Hampson -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of DJMFLAG@aol.com Sent: Monday, 12 December 2005 1:23 PM To: HAMPSON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HAMPSON] Re: Hampson's of Bolton, Lancashire This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VUh.2ACIB/144.1 Message Board Post: That date if before 1837 government mandated registration, so all of the information would be from the churches in Bolton. The parish Church of Bolton is St. Peter's. Donna Collinge Martens My Hampsons are from Radcliffe, Lancashire. my g-g-grandmother Ann was from Radcliffe and she married my g-g-grandfather John Collings (Collinge) on Dec. 14, 1821. I have never been able to locate where John was from ==== HAMPSON Mailing List ==== List guidelines: Please no HTML or enriched text in posts to the list, plain text only or your message will not get to the List. Also no attachments as these are stripped out by Rootsweb. ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Birth Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VUh.2ACIB/144.1.1 Message Board Post: Dear Donna, Thanks for your reply re:Hampsons. My Dan Hampson was born 11 June 1804, son of Noah and Mary Hampson, Whitster, Radcliff Bridge. He was Baptised at the New Jerusalemite Chapel, Stand Lane, Pilkington. That is as far back as I have gotten. He has a sister Mary b. 17 Aug. 1806 same info as his. If you Hampsons are from Radcliffe maybe there is a connection. Val

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VUh.2ACIB/14.39 Message Board Post: my g-g-grandmother was Ann Hampson of Radcliffe. She married my g-g-grandfather John Collings (Collinge) in 1821 Manchester Cathedral. I think a lot of people in the Radcliffe area might have married in Prestwich, including Ann and John's son Matthew Collinge and his daughter Ann in 1884. I am currently looking for information about Ann Collinge.