Okay, Hampshire folk - you were so helpful with my Anna Eliza query I would like to throw another persistent frustration at you and see if anyone can come up with anything. Once again, we swap from GILLEY to GILLY whenever the wind blows. My ancestor's birth certificate shows him as William Amos West GILLY, born 2 Nov 1875, Southampton. 1881 census has him as Amos GILLEY, aged 5, born Southampton. By 1891 he has advanced ten years with other details correct. So far so good. (I presume his being known as Amos was to distinguish him from his older brother, also called William.) After that - pouf! he disappears. However, in November 1900 when Amos should be 25, Elias William GILLEY, aged 30, suddenly appears and marries Eleanor DACAM in Southampton. His occupation is given as "Clerk in Holy Orders". His father is shown as having the same name and occupation. Witnesses are both from the Dacam family, which makes me wonder if he was estranged from his own family. Elias and Eleanor show up on the 1901 census, with his birthplace shown as Surrey. However, nowhere else does any Elias GILLEY appear, of either generation. Not on FreeBMD or any census that I have seen, plus I have searched the BMDs to no avail. All the William GILLEYs of the appropriate age on the censuses are accounted for. Therefore I am left with the situation where my Amos disappears round about when this Elias appears. Did he falsify his name and age to take up holy orders? Would proof of identity be required for this occupation? I have also come across an entry from the London Gazette in 1917 which says that Reverend Elias William Gilley was appointed to the Rectory of St Mary in the Island of Jersey. Will check out that one on the Channel Islands list. Ideas, anyone? Hopefully somebody can see something I have missed. All suggestions gratefully received, thank you. Dorothy M Whakatane, NZ http://mobile.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Mobile - Check & compose your email via SMS on your Telstra or Vodafone mobile.

Hi Dorothy We have just checked our Kellys for 1915 on the offchance there were some Gilley/Gilly families still around the area and have found the following: GILLEY Ernest 93, Ludlow Road Itchen Southampton GILLIES George 31 Fanshawe St Southampton GILLIES George 248 Shirley Road Freemantle Southampton Hope these help out in some way Chris and Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Morrissey" <mamouse56@yahoo.co.nz> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 7:09 AM Subject: [HantsLife] Where did he go? Okay, Hampshire folk - you were so helpful with my Anna Eliza query I would like to throw another persistent frustration at you and see if anyone can come up with anything. Once again, we swap from GILLEY to GILLY whenever the wind blows. My ancestor's birth certificate shows him as William Amos West GILLY, born 2 Nov 1875, Southampton. 1881 census has him as Amos GILLEY, aged 5, born Southampton. By 1891 he has advanced ten years with other details correct. So far so good. (I presume his being known as Amos was to distinguish him from his older brother, also called William.) After that - pouf! he disappears. However, in November 1900 when Amos should be 25, Elias William GILLEY, aged 30, suddenly appears and marries Eleanor DACAM in Southampton. His occupation is given as "Clerk in Holy Orders". His father is shown as having the same name and occupation. Witnesses are both from the Dacam family, which makes me wonder if he was estranged from his own family. Elias and Eleanor show up on the 1901 census, with his birthplace shown as Surrey. However, nowhere else does any Elias GILLEY appear, of either generation. Not on FreeBMD or any census that I have seen, plus I have searched the BMDs to no avail. All the William GILLEYs of the appropriate age on the censuses are accounted for. Therefore I am left with the situation where my Amos disappears round about when this Elias appears. Did he falsify his name and age to take up holy orders? Would proof of identity be required for this occupation? I have also come across an entry from the London Gazette in 1917 which says that Reverend Elias William Gilley was appointed to the Rectory of St Mary in the Island of Jersey. Will check out that one on the Channel Islands list. Ideas, anyone? Hopefully somebody can see something I have missed. All suggestions gratefully received, thank you. Dorothy M Whakatane, NZ http://mobile.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Mobile - Check & compose your email via SMS on your Telstra or Vodafone mobile. ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== Please use common sense when sending or replying to messages on the list. What may not offend you may offend others. Please do not send virus warnings, or other matetial not relevant to Hampshire and its history. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 19/05/2003