A few more that my parents used to use and which are still in use today are: "in the doghouse" "In the Pink" "In Queer Street" "In a nutshell" "Hang fire" which I later learned came from the navy when a spark took so long to reach the gunpowder! "get down to the nitty gritty!" "A cow with it's tail to the west, makes weather the best, A cow with it's tail to the east, makes weather the least. " "Going to visit the Quack" used to make me think of duckponds not doctors!! "Its enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey!" For some more sayings and there meanings go to http://www.briggs13.fsnet.co.uk/idioms%20list.htm Chris --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.491 / Virus Database: 290 - Release Date: 18/06/2003