Sorry John No connection with any Hobbs in Kiwiland. Some of Joseph Wright's offspring (not Sarah)migrated to NZ though, probably an attempt to balance the Kiwi invasion. Our line came from the UK via Robert Hobbs convict ex London transported "Active" Third Fleet and Bridgette Eslin convict from Dublin Ireland transported "Sugar Cane". Their son Robert Hobbs Jnr and Sarah Wright born in settlement NSW; daughter of Joseph Wright ex London convict transported "Scarborough" First Fleet 1788 and Ellen Gott convict ex London transported "Neptune" Second fleet. Which goes to show we are the children of convicts (and proud of it). Hey John! we would love to hear your honest opinion; if there is such a distinct difference between Australian speech in WA as opposed to say Melbourne Sydney or Brisbane. Here it comes. quick gimme a beer before it starts. "When I was in the workforce having retired some four years ago and loving it" I can only go with my own experiences when I say; I was in regular phone contact with all of the other States and Territories as well as eyeball contact at State sales meetings and I must repeat I have never had any trouble understanding or detected any noticeable difference between the Western and Eastern States of Australia, maybe a few words are strange sometimes probably evolved in isolation, but not enough to make it a different dialect. Certainly not as different as you would find in the UK from village to village or Wales Scotland and Ireland and England, who are supposedly bilingual and have different dialects as does England, or as distinctly different as Kiwi to Australian speak. Even NZ has a different dialect in the North and South Islands probably due to the different source of their ancestors. I challenge any one to show me the differences that would allow you to identify the particular location of the speaker in Australia. In Queensland you wouldn't be able to pick them as they are coming across the border in droves to get a bit of the good life. As Queenslanders now, they have integrated any minor differences in speech with ours. I know because we are cockroaches ourselves having been born and bred in Sydney NSW, we have been swallowed by the cane toads. This goes for the wetbacks from Victoria as well. No point in asking poor old Seamus we understand he is an ex Pom, now a naturalised Aussie and I believe he is proud to be so. Sorry to hear about your recent illness Seamus "Get Well Soon and leave those nurses alone." We would Love to hear from you Kindest Regards Maureen & Brian Hobbs ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Sutton" <cjsutton@bigpond.net.au> To: "Brian Hobbs" <b.hobbs@hunterlink.net.au> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [HantsLife] Royal Mail > Brian > Nothing to do with Royal Mail. > I am searching for Hobbs relatives. My Great Aunt's son went to NZ - > Palmerston North in the 30's my GA went there when in her 60's and died > there. Any connection? > John Sutton - Perth WA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Hobbs" <b.hobbs@hunterlink.net.au> > To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:02 PM > Subject: Re: [HantsLife] Royal Mail > > > > Oh boy > > > > What a dreadful way to have to live, with so many different languages and > > village dialects you have to cope with in your country. > > Note; this is an observation not a criticism I realize this is as good as > it > > is gioing to get so don't come down on me too hard for saying so.. > > > > The book " The Fatal Shore" by Robert Hughes. It is of course about the > > transportation of convicts to Australia from 1788. A passage which took my > > eye - "There were about 900 aboriginal tribes in Australia at the time of > > the English invasion in the twenty eighth year of the reign of mad King > > George III. Most of the tribes around Port Jackson lived in hunting > grounds > > about 50 miles apart and each tribe had a completely different language". > > So what's new!! > > Australia is a big place ( you can fit all of Europe in this island) and > > except for the most recent foreign imports we all speak as one in one > > language (Australian English) and one only dialect. > > > > Do you think we may have learned something from UK history and made an > > automatic correction or are we just lucky. > > > > Cheers > > Brian Hobbs > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chris & Caroline" <chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk> > > To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:16 AM > > Subject: [HantsLife] Royal Mail > > > > > > > Just registered with Royal Mail to use their post code service and had > an > > > email back thanking us > > > Surprised to see what they had on the bottom though!!!! > > > Chris and Caroline > > > > > > Royal Mail Group plc is registered in England and Wales. 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Hi Brian, I live in Perth and have an obsession for accents and trying to pin down where people come from. The only thing that really gives away an Eastern Stater to me is the way they say the word "you've". Apart from that, the difference (if any) is so tiny that it more usually can be attributed to the natural difference of voices themselves; not accents. The word mentioned above can best be illustrated from the McCain advert on telly. The guy says "Ah McCain, your've done it again!" Well, that's how it sounds to me. He is an Eastern Stater. I would say "Yoo've done it again". Accents in England, more so in years gone by when people didn't travel so much, just about changed in each *street*. (Ducking and waiting for the flack ;-)) All the best May LANCHBURY Researching in Hants BROWN DAVIDSON DOUSE/DOWCE etc HAMILTON HOLDING/HOLDEN/OLDEN LIGHT TUBB Researching Everywhere LANCHBURY/LAINCHBURY/LAUNCHBURY + 58 other spellings of the name