Hi Margaret and all listers, What a heartbreaking incident to happen! Who are these 'people' that do so much damage, just what do they get out of it, are they proud of what they have done? I know only too well the heartache this sort of thing causes, I have seen it first hand at Ann's Hill Cemetery, Gosport. Where not just children's but babies graves have been desecrated! At times I despair for the future of the human race, when actions like this happen, I know thankfully, that this is the very few who do this. My point is to suggest that Family Historians who are able, visit regularly thier local cemetery, take the dog, or just a walk, regular visits 'MAY HELP' to deter those who apparently get fun damaging the graves of our ancestors, who should be allowed to rest in peace! A very sad, Den Message: 1 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:04:41 +0000 From: "Margaret Usmar" <margaretusmar@gmail.com> Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Australian Cemetery To: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <e4b83de80703230604q987ae90sab58fbff8ded5e34@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Like many people, I have had family emigrating to Australia for about 200 years. A relative who lives in Victoria has read this report in their newspaper, the Herald Sun: St Kilda Cemetery, one of the oldest in the state of Victoria, was visited by vandals on Tuesday night. Forty-four graves were badly damaged, including smashed and toppled headstones dating back more than 100 years. No religion was singled out by the vandals. Records go back to the 1800's, and efforts are being made to try and contact families with a connection to the graves involved. This attack occured despite St Kilda's being locked every night and with a security patrol in place, and police are investigating. I thought I would post this in case a fellow member of the list knew of their own family links to the cemetery. For further details they ask that you contact the necropolis on: 0061 (0)3 8558 8278 Margaret

Like many people, I have had family emigrating to Australia for about 200 years. A relative who lives in Victoria has read this report in their newspaper, the Herald Sun: St Kilda Cemetery, one of the oldest in the state of Victoria, was visited by vandals on Tuesday night. Forty-four graves were badly damaged, including smashed and toppled headstones dating back more than 100 years. No religion was singled out by the vandals. Records go back to the 1800's, and efforts are being made to try and contact families with a connection to the graves involved. This attack occured despite St Kilda's being locked every night and with a security patrol in place, and police are investigating. I thought I would post this in case a fellow member of the list knew of their own family links to the cemetery. For further details they ask that you contact the necropolis on: 0061 (0)3 8558 8278 Margaret

Found an unusual first name once which I always thought was a modern word Protoplasm Williams died 8th January 1723. Cannot remember where it was but somebody sent it to the list when we first started and it is genuine! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Usmar" <margaretusmar@gmail.com> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Strange monumental inscriptions One of my best friends is married to a Cakebread! And Pricktoe, I believe, was once known in Warwickshire. Margaret On 3/19/07, M. Page <marp2@onetel.com> wrote: > > Well apart from the obvious one in Winchester cathedral grounds, I have > not come across any other unusual graveyard memorials. > However, I have come across some unusual surnames - here are just a few: > > Thomas CAKEBREAD & MRS Sarah CAKEBREAD, of Hatfield Broadoak, Dedham, > Essex, > > MRS. SWEETAPPLE, Upper Clatford. > > PRICKTOE, Upper Clatford and Andover. > > BUNNY, Andover > > Mrs. CHICKEN, Lincoln. > > Has anyone else come across unusual surnames? > > Moya Page, > researching BANTING/BANTEN/BANTUM - One Name Study GOONS # 4570 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris & Caroline" <crhayles@btinternet.com> > To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 12:38 PM > Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Strange monumental inscriptions > > > I did ask for Hampshire ones not Tombstone. > Though this place is like Tombstone at the moment!! LOL > Chris > > > *************************************** > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list > members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything > which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the > footers which will be put back anyway!) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000725-1, 03/19/2007 Tested on: 3/19/2007 4:04:53 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

You must mean this one Moya!! The original spelling is left in Chris "In Memory of Thomas Thetcher a Grenadier in the North Regt. of Hants Militia who died of a violent Fever contracted by drinking Small Beer when hot the 12 May 1764. Aged 26 years. In grateful remembrance of whofe univerfal good will towards his Comrades. this stone is Placed here at their expence as a fmall testimony of their regard and concern. Here fleeps in peace a Hampshire Grenadier who caught his death by drinking cold small Beer. Soldiers be wise from his untimely fall and when yere hot drink Strong or none at all. This memorial being decay'd was reftored by the officers of the Garrifon AD 1781. An honeft Soldier never is forgot whether he die by mufket or by Pot. The Stone was replaced by the North Hants Militia when difembodied at Winchester on 26th April 1802 in confequence of the original stone being deftroyed. And again replaced by the Royal Hampshire Regiment 1966" NOTE: the last paragraph mentions the North Hants Militia being "difembodied" - this means disbanded. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Page" <marp2@onetel.com> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Strange monumental inscriptions Well apart from the obvious one in Winchester cathedral grounds, I have not come across any other unusual graveyard memorials. However, I have come across some unusual surnames - here are just a few: Thomas CAKEBREAD & MRS Sarah CAKEBREAD, of Hatfield Broadoak, Dedham, Essex, MRS. SWEETAPPLE, Upper Clatford. PRICKTOE, Upper Clatford and Andover. BUNNY, Andover Mrs. CHICKEN, Lincoln. Has anyone else come across unusual surnames? Moya Page, researching BANTING/BANTEN/BANTUM - One Name Study GOONS # 4570 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Caroline" <crhayles@btinternet.com> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Strange monumental inscriptions I did ask for Hampshire ones not Tombstone. Though this place is like Tombstone at the moment!! LOL Chris *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000725-1, 03/19/2007 Tested on: 3/19/2007 4:04:51 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

I have found a book that was "buried" in my loft entitled "A Small Book of Grave Humour" Apparently their is a gravestone in Alverstone with the following epitaph: To the memory of Emma & Maria LITTLEBOY the twin children of George and Emma Little Boy Of Hornsey who died July 16th 1837 two littleboys lie here yet strange to say these little boys are girls

Is this Constables Dedham? Di ----- Original Message ---- From: "Perllan987@aol.com" <Perllan987@aol.com> To: hampshire-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 19 March, 2007 2:17:39 PM Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Strange monumental inscriptions In a message dated 3/19/2007 9:57:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, marp2@onetel.com writes: Thomas CAKEBREAD & MRS Sarah CAKEBREAD, of Hatfield Broadoak, Dedham, Essex, I have an Anna CAKEBREAD in my family tree, albeit way back. She was born in England and married James CUTLER in England about 1632. I wouldn't be surprised but what the Thomas and Sarah you mention were her relatives, perhaps her parents. I'll keep their names in case I find out more. Jayne _perllan987@aol.com_ (mailto:perllan987@aol.com) ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Yahoo! Mail - quick, easy and free. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/trueswitch2.html

The Cakebreads I know are both from Newcastle upon Tyne. Margaret On 3/19/07, Perllan987@aol.com <Perllan987@aol.com> wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/19/2007 9:57:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > marp2@onetel.com writes: > > Thomas CAKEBREAD & MRS Sarah CAKEBREAD, of Hatfield Broadoak, > Dedham, Essex, > > > > I have an Anna CAKEBREAD in my family tree, albeit way back. She was > born in > England and married James CUTLER in England about 1632. I wouldn't be > surprised but what the Thomas and Sarah you mention were her relatives, > perhaps her > parents. I'll keep their names in case I find out more. > > Jayne > _perllan987@aol.com_ (mailto:perllan987@aol.com) > > > > ************************************** AOL now offers free email to > everyone. > Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > *************************************** > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list > members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything > which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the > footers which will be put back anyway!) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

One of my best friends is married to a Cakebread! And Pricktoe, I believe, was once known in Warwickshire. Margaret On 3/19/07, M. Page <marp2@onetel.com> wrote: > > Well apart from the obvious one in Winchester cathedral grounds, I have > not come across any other unusual graveyard memorials. > However, I have come across some unusual surnames - here are just a few: > > Thomas CAKEBREAD & MRS Sarah CAKEBREAD, of Hatfield Broadoak, Dedham, > Essex, > > MRS. SWEETAPPLE, Upper Clatford. > > PRICKTOE, Upper Clatford and Andover. > > BUNNY, Andover > > Mrs. CHICKEN, Lincoln. > > Has anyone else come across unusual surnames? > > Moya Page, > researching BANTING/BANTEN/BANTUM - One Name Study GOONS # 4570 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris & Caroline" <crhayles@btinternet.com> > To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 12:38 PM > Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Strange monumental inscriptions > > > I did ask for Hampshire ones not Tombstone. > Though this place is like Tombstone at the moment!! LOL > Chris > > > *************************************** > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list > members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything > which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the > footers which will be put back anyway!) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Well apart from the obvious one in Winchester cathedral grounds, I have not come across any other unusual graveyard memorials. However, I have come across some unusual surnames - here are just a few: Thomas CAKEBREAD & MRS Sarah CAKEBREAD, of Hatfield Broadoak, Dedham, Essex, MRS. SWEETAPPLE, Upper Clatford. PRICKTOE, Upper Clatford and Andover. BUNNY, Andover Mrs. CHICKEN, Lincoln. Has anyone else come across unusual surnames? Moya Page, researching BANTING/BANTEN/BANTUM - One Name Study GOONS # 4570 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Caroline" <crhayles@btinternet.com> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Strange monumental inscriptions I did ask for Hampshire ones not Tombstone. Though this place is like Tombstone at the moment!! LOL Chris

I did ask for Hampshire ones not Tombstone. Though this place is like Tombstone at the moment!! LOL Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gledbrook@aol.com> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Strange monumental inscriptions In a message dated 18/03/2007 22:26:03 GMT Standard Time, pmc248@netzero.net writes: Hello Graham, Yes, there are some good ones there, I have been told that the person who owns " BOOT HILL" graveyard at Tombstone, has not only replaced the originals, which were rotted away by the weather, but has added a few of his own. Regards, Pam, in Mesa, Az. I don't think they had much chance of rotting away, they were attractive to thieves as well, I was there 10 years ago and they were quite amusing Graham in Ringwood UK *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000725-0, 03/19/2007 Tested on: 3/19/2007 12:32:44 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

In a message dated 3/19/2007 10:26:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, margaretusmar@gmail.com writes: The Cakebreads I know are both from Newcastle upon Tyne. Margaret I'll keep these in mind, too. Jayne perllan987@aol.com ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 3/19/2007 9:57:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, marp2@onetel.com writes: Thomas CAKEBREAD & MRS Sarah CAKEBREAD, of Hatfield Broadoak, Dedham, Essex, I have an Anna CAKEBREAD in my family tree, albeit way back. She was born in England and married James CUTLER in England about 1632. I wouldn't be surprised but what the Thomas and Sarah you mention were her relatives, perhaps her parents. I'll keep their names in case I find out more. Jayne _perllan987@aol.com_ (mailto:perllan987@aol.com) ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Epitaphs on Old Tombstones A truly Happy Person is one who can enjoy the scenery on a detour. And, one who can enjoy browsing old cemeteries... Ha! Some fascinating things on old tombstones! Harry Edsel Smith of Albany, New York: Born 1903--Died 1942. Looked up the elevator shaft to see if the car was on the way down. It was. In a Thurmont, Maryland, cemetery: Here lies an Atheist, all dressed up and no place to go. On the grave of Ezekial Aikle in East Dalhousie Cemetery, Nova Scotia: Here lies Ezekial Aikle, Age 102. The Good Die Young. In a London, England cemetery: Here lies Ann Mann, Who lived an old maid but died an old Mann. Dec. 8, 1767 In a Ribbesford, England, cemetery: Anna Wallace: The children of Israel wanted bread, And the Lord sent them manna. Clark Wallace wanted a wife, And the Devil sent him Anna. In a Ruidoso, New Mexico, cemetery: Here lies Johnny Yeast. Pardon me for not rising. In a Uniontown, Pennsylvania, cemetery: Here lies the body of Jonathan Blake. Stepped on the gas instead of the brake. In a Silver City, Nevada, cemetery: Here lays The Kid. We planted him raw. He was quick on the trigger But slow on the draw. A lawyer's epitaph in England: Sir John Strange. Here lies an honest lawyer, and that is Strange. John Penny's epitaph in the Wimborne, England, cemetery: Reader, if cash thou art in want of any, Dig 6 feet deep and thou wilt find a Penny. In a cemetery in Hartscombe, England: On the 22nd of June, Jonathan Fiddle went out of tune. Anna Hopewell's grave in Enosburg Falls, Vermont: Here lies the body of our Anna, Done to death by a banana. It wasn't the fruit that laid her low, But the skin of the thing that made her go. On a grave from the 1880s in Nantucket, Massachusetts: Under the sod and under the trees, Lies the body of Jonathan Pease. He is not here, there's only the pod. Pease shelled out and went to God. In a cemetery in England: Remember man, as you walk by, As you are now, so once was I. As I am now, so shall you be. Remember this and follow me. To which someone replied by writing on the tombstone: To follow you I'll not consent, Until I know which way you went.

In a message dated 18/03/2007 22:26:03 GMT Standard Time, pmc248@netzero.net writes: Hello Graham, Yes, there are some good ones there, I have been told that the person who owns " BOOT HILL" graveyard at Tombstone, has not only replaced the originals, which were rotted away by the weather, but has added a few of his own. Regards, Pam, in Mesa, Az. I don't think they had much chance of rotting away, they were attractive to thieves as well, I was there 10 years ago and they were quite amusing Graham in Ringwood UK

Some records for the Royal Victoria Hospital can be found by searching the Hospital Records Database www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords for Hospital Name royal victoria, then selecting the result for Southampton. Also, burial registers 1864-1974 for the hospital are held by the Ministry of Defence. Photocopies of these registers are held at the Royal Victoria Country Park. Alan McGowan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Usmar" <margaretusmar@gmail.com> Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Royal Victoria Hospital and Hurst Family ........ Did this mean Isabella Troy had accommodation on the premises, and her mother was allowed to live with her? And do any staff records from the hospital still exist?

Hello Graham, Yes, there are some good ones there, I have been told that the person who owns " BOOT HILL" graveyard at Tombstone, has not only replaced the originals, which were rotted away by the weather, but has added a few of his own. Regards, Pam, in Mesa, Az.

As far as I know, this is on Spike Milligan's grave Sally-Ann ----- Original Message ---- From: "Gledbrook@aol.com" <Gledbrook@aol.com> To: hampshire-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 16 March, 2007 4:48:16 PM Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Strange monumental inscriptions In a message dated 16/03/2007 16:25:57 GMT Standard Time, pmc248@netzero.net writes: My Gravestone favorite has always been :- " I Told You I Was Sick. " Cheers, Pam, an Aldershot, Hants. gal in Arizona. Some of the best tombstone inscriptions I have seen were in Tombstone Arizona Graham *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Not sure about a list of staff Margaret but this may interest you it is all about the hospital http://www.southernlife.org.uk/vichosp.htm Also click on GALLERY on the right for photos of how it was when the Welsh Hospital was there. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Usmar" <margaretusmar@gmail.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 2:39 PM Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Royal Victoria Hospital and Hurst Family Help with a conundrum needed! One member of my tree is shown on the 1881 Census as being on the staff of the Royal Victoria Hospital at Netley; she is listed under her married name of Troy (she was only recently married), and is a Housekeeper. What I can't understand is why listed with her, is her 70 year old widowed mother. Did this mean Isabella Troy had accommodation on the premises, and her mother was allowed to live with her? And do any staff records from the hospital still exist? The second part of my query relates to Isabella's husband, an Irishman named Richard Troy. On the 1881 Census he is shown as being at his employers' home, the Hurst family of Redbridge Lane, Millbrook. Mr Henry Hurst was a retired farmer. Richard himself was not only Henry's 'attendant', but also a Chelsea Pensioner. If there is anyone out there researching the Hurst family, they might have an old photograph, showing Richard and other staff. Very many thanks. Margaret *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000724-0, 03/15/2007 Tested on: 3/16/2007 3:16:15 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

There are, Pam, a number of stones in the States that bear the inscription "I told you I was sick" of which the most visited is probably that of B Pearl Roberts a well-known hypochondriac of Key West. We are thinking of a visit to the Everglades of the Keys next year and that would be on our list. Spike Milligan's epitaph was"I told you I was ill" I believe that to satisfy the Chichester Diocese it was translated in Gaelic and now reads "Duirt me leat go raibh me breoite" I recall a cemetery on the New Hampshire/Vermont border that contained a stone which simply read "Gone to meet those who have gone before" Not amusing in itself, but in this case, four wives had pre-deceased him and were buried along side him. I leave the greeting that he received to your imagination David

Help with a conundrum needed! One member of my tree is shown on the 1881 Census as being on the staff of the Royal Victoria Hospital at Netley; she is listed under her married name of Troy (she was only recently married), and is a Housekeeper. What I can't understand is why listed with her, is her 70 year old widowed mother. Did this mean Isabella Troy had accommodation on the premises, and her mother was allowed to live with her? And do any staff records from the hospital still exist? The second part of my query relates to Isabella's husband, an Irishman named Richard Troy. On the 1881 Census he is shown as being at his employers' home, the Hurst family of Redbridge Lane, Millbrook. Mr Henry Hurst was a retired farmer. Richard himself was not only Henry's 'attendant', but also a Chelsea Pensioner. If there is anyone out there researching the Hurst family, they might have an old photograph, showing Richard and other staff. Very many thanks. Margaret