Further my recent message. The 1901 shows that James was a stud groom racing staff; his son James was a stableman, racing stables. and another son, Henry William was a stud groom assistant. So it would appear that the Racing stables were quite successful David

In 1881 James GOODYEAR was a stableman at the Racing Stables at Manor Farm, Heathman St, Nether Wallop. I have not associated Hampshire and Horse Racing. Does any one know of these stables or of horse racing in Hampshire during the Victorian period? David

The following updates and new additions have now been added to our website the SOUTHERN LINE(UK) http://southernlife.org.uk UPDATE/ADDITION: DORSET Nether Cerne - new village http://www.southernlife.org.uk/dorset/nethercerne.htm We are constantly looking out for photographs (new and old) and articles to add to the villages. Especially to those villages we have not added photographs to. If you have any old or new photographs you would like to share with others please email us BEFORE sending them for security reasons. A credit will be placed with the article/photo acknowledging the sender or photographer. Visit our website to see where your forefathers lived SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://Southernlife.org.uk History of the IOW and Hampshires Villages,Towns and Churches

could I come off the list please as I am offline for a while thank you and all the best everyone

The following updates and new additions have now been added to our website the SOUTHERN LINE(UK) http://southernlife.org.uk UPDATE/ADDITION: DORSET Buckland Newton - photos added http://www.southernlife.org.uk/dorset/bucknewt.htm Winterborne Abbas http://www.southernlife.org.uk/dorset/wabbas.htm Glanvilles Wootton http://www.southernlife.org.uk/dorset/glanvilles_wootton.htm We are constantly looking out for photographs (new and old) and articles to add to the villages. Especially to those villages we have not added photographs to. If you have any old or new photographs you would like to share with others please email us BEFORE sending them for security reasons. A credit will be placed with the article/photo acknowledging the sender or photographer. Visit our website to see where your forefathers lived SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://Southernlife.org.uk History of the IOW and Hampshires Villages,Towns and Churches

Last week somebody mentioned the IOW ghosts. Well Ftn are showing them on Most Haunted this week, Last night was Arreton Manor and tonight was Appledurcombe House. Arreton Manor had them all shaking in their boots with strange noises!! Not sure if they are on all week but if you have Satellite or Freeview (if in UK) you should get them Chris

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I am pleased to announce that the Dorset villages are now back on line with a lot of new photos, though I still need a lot more!! LOL The website is at http://Southernlife.org.uk Click on DORSET on the left and PLEASE leave your comments in the Guestbook on the main page (NO family research queries please) ChrisSOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://Southernlife.org.uk History of the IOW and Hampshires Villages,Towns and Churches

Hello, Well I was talking to my neighbour who is a school teacher about the vandal situation. I must admit even here in the quiet country cemetery they stole the silk flower arrangement off my sons grave. Sylvia This was her reply............. Now for a reply to the cemetery problems...... It is my belief that until we have more stable homes with a father and mother setting examples by modeling good manners and good behavior we will continue to have the problems we are plagued with. Although I was a single parent I didn't think it was the best thing for my kids. The one thing I did was try to teach them that taking things from someone's yard like a flower was not acceptable since it didn't belong to them. I had the opportunity to teach the lessons because we walked to school each morning when they were small. There seems to be no sense of what ownership of property is all about. In my classroom a pencil found on the floor instantly became the property of the finder. "Finders keepers, losers weepers!!" was the rule. To keep that from happening I put the name of each student on the pencil. It should not have been necessary but I had to keep the peace. Just seeing it should have brought on an investigation by the finder to locate the person to whom it belonged. Not to long ago a gentleman who was working on a house across the street ask me about a set of keys he found while fishing. He wanted to know if the library would have the information on a person since the keys had a library card attached. I told him I am sure it would. This is a good example of finding something, realizing it doesn't belong to me and trying to find the owner. Now you are probably wondering what this has to do with the cemetery. I wouldn't consider doing damage to someone's property including a grave or tombstone. I don't think that my children would either. In both cases it is because someone took the time to teach us values. That just isn't happening in our hurried busy society. I am sure teenagers were bored when I was growing up. We didn't go out and vandalize just to beat boredom. We knew our parents would be on our case forever if we had. I have to realize my parents were not divorced and were ever alert to where I was, who I was with and what I was doing. Are parents that alert today? Now just please don't ask me how all this can be corrected. As I first stated the lack of interest by parents in their children's lives and the divorce rate must be a big factor. Being a parent isn't an easy job. It becomes even harder when rules and regulations are enforced. The interesting thing is that kids appreciate having boundaries even though they fight them tooth and nail. When one decides to take on a family they need to have training to help them be the best they can be at that job. To few did not have a good role model and don't know what to do to make things better for themselves and their children. Susan Advice for the day: If you have a lot of tension and you get a headache, do what it says on the aspirin bottle: "Take two aspirin" and "Keep away from children." Sylvia in Florida ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Used to live very near to a "sink area" some 25 yrs ago. The local school, when we moved there was full and so my children were told that they would have to attend a junior school in the sink area. We had already been told by our neighbours about the school; remember this is for children of between 5 and 11. Drugs hard and soft being openly sold, teachers being attacked with knives and blunt instruments, kids beating up and hospitalising other kids in the classroom, arson and other forms of damage; and the parents, kids stood no chance; the list could go on. Needless to say we appealed and the kids were sent to a much better school which was closer to home. Where was this? In the county town of one of our "Shire" counties, not some deprived inner city area. My son still lives in the county town and 25 yrs later things are no better. To extend on what one of the other writers said, bring back public flogging and bring back corporal punishment in schools, and as a lot of us can say "it did us no harm" I will stop now and not respond to any other notes as I am getting on my hobby horse. Colin -----Original Message----- From: hampshire-life-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hampshire-life-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Usmar Sent: 25 March 2007 14:21 To: hampshire-life@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Cemetery Damage My sister-in-law works at an inner-London school, so hears first hand from other staff what goes on at neighbouring schools - including the 12 year old who (more than once) attacked fellow pupils, the teacher, and the head teacher; after being suspended (during which time he was picked up by police for shoplifting), the Governors voted for expulsion. His mother pleaded that he was a good boy really but misunderstood, and got a solicitor to successfully have him re-instated as it was against his Human Rights to be excluded. At her own school, a primary school, she's had to call police numerous times because of the PARENTS, and had armed police lock the place down whilst they looked for a disgruntled father carrying a weapon. I'm seriously considering a Bill of Rights for the rest of us. I am a single parent, but because I was widowed young, and have managed to bring mine up without either of them becoming axe-murderers or criminals. It can be done! Two of my nephews have in the past been mugged for their mobile phones, both in broad daylight and within 100 yards of their homes. I do fear for my now very elderly relatives - and for my daughter, who as a student nurse has also had to endure obnoxious behaviour from patients and their parents. the world's gone mad. I hope your son's ok. Margaret On 3/25/07, tele.pathic <tele.pathic@virgin.net> wrote: > > Colin M. Andrews wrote: > > It is very simple, there is very little discipline at home and none at > > school. > > Sadly, this is all too true. > > They all know their rights, but nobody thought to teach them the > concomitant responsibilities. There are virtually no repercussions to > their behaviour - asbos are almost looked upon as a badge of honour. > Bring back the lash, I say, and while we're at it, the stocks, the > birch, national service, and short, short haircuts. > > Linda, feeling grumpy, because my 16 year old (well brought up) son went > to a party last night and came home minus his phone after the party was > crashed by a gang of thugs. Grrrrr. > *************************************** > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list > members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything > which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the > footers which will be put back anyway!) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Slightly off subject but still about cemeterys I have found that while visiting the villages in Hampshire and Dorset I find most are well kept but there are still to many that are left to fall into disrepair and I am quite angered by this One church I forget which one, has an old church at the back but to get to see this you need to take a marines course in Jungle Warfare first, and arm yourself with a machete and a native guide! The Brambles were over my nead and I am 6ft in height and were so hard to get through I was almost torn to shreds. The grass was also above knee height and I half expected a chap to come out and say "Dr Hayles I presume"! If you are in the UK and have relatives buried in these conditions it does not take much to phone up a council or church warden and complain tht access is almost nigh on impossible, and also to occassionally visit the cemetery with a pair of shears and a plastic bag and tidy up the area around the grave you are visiting. But beware of the conservation areas as these may not be clearly marked, though some of these I suspect are ploys to get away from cutting the grass!! LOL Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Usmar" <margaretusmar@gmail.com> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 3:26 PM Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Cemetery Damage Thank you to everyone who responeded to my initial posting concerning the cemetery damage in Australia. I must say the police out there are taking it very seriously and are putting real effort in finding who was responsible. The cemetery in East London where my twin is buried suffered a huge amount of vandalism in the 1970's. It has now been completely turned round due, apparently, to the much-encouraged increase in use. It is now a registered site of interest for its wildlife, local schools use it for many parts of the curriculum, including history with, as you say, people like us transcribing inscriptions and actually visiting those we are related to. It is a popular place for local workers to eat their lunch. I regret to say that neglected burial grounds are laying temselves open to damage these days in much the same way as derelict buildings, though neither should be so. My father, who died only 53 in 1980, started the hitherto unknown family trend of cremations and being scattered afterward in a place he loved. Though as a family historian this makes me cringe, at least I know no one can vandalise the last resting place of my relatives - though my husband's is, I must admit, terribly noisy for two weeks of the year! So - the answer has to be that we all get out there, whether to our family cemetery or the one which is closest, and do our bit to safe-guard it. And whilst my children look at me as if I'm mad, I am under 50 and still remember the family picnic round the family plot on Grandad's birthday (it was freezing). Or was that just an East London tradition? Margaret

Thank you to everyone who responeded to my initial posting concerning the cemetery damage in Australia. I must say the police out there are taking it very seriously and are putting real effort in finding who was responsible. The cemetery in East London where my twin is buried suffered a huge amount of vandalism in the 1970's. It has now been completely turned round due, apparently, to the much-encouraged increase in use. It is now a registered site of interest for its wildlife, local schools use it for many parts of the curriculum, including history with, as you say, people like us transcribing inscriptions and actually visiting those we are related to. It is a popular place for local workers to eat their lunch. I regret to say that neglected burial grounds are laying temselves open to damage these days in much the same way as derelict buildings, though neither should be so. My father, who died only 53 in 1980, started the hitherto unknown family trend of cremations and being scattered afterward in a place he loved. Though as a family historian this makes me cringe, at least I know no one can vandalise the last resting place of my relatives - though my husband's is, I must admit, terribly noisy for two weeks of the year! So - the answer has to be that we all get out there, whether to our family cemetery or the one which is closest, and do our bit to safe-guard it. And whilst my children look at me as if I'm mad, I am under 50 and still remember the family picnic round the family plot on Grandad's birthday (it was freezing). Or was that just an East London tradition? Margaret

My sister-in-law works at an inner-London school, so hears first hand from other staff what goes on at neighbouring schools - including the 12 year old who (more than once) attacked fellow pupils, the teacher, and the head teacher; after being suspended (during which time he was picked up by police for shoplifting), the Governors voted for expulsion. His mother pleaded that he was a good boy really but misunderstood, and got a solicitor to successfully have him re-instated as it was against his Human Rights to be excluded. At her own school, a primary school, she's had to call police numerous times because of the PARENTS, and had armed police lock the place down whilst they looked for a disgruntled father carrying a weapon. I'm seriously considering a Bill of Rights for the rest of us. I am a single parent, but because I was widowed young, and have managed to bring mine up without either of them becoming axe-murderers or criminals. It can be done! Two of my nephews have in the past been mugged for their mobile phones, both in broad daylight and within 100 yards of their homes. I do fear for my now very elderly relatives - and for my daughter, who as a student nurse has also had to endure obnoxious behaviour from patients and their parents. the world's gone mad. I hope your son's ok. Margaret On 3/25/07, tele.pathic <tele.pathic@virgin.net> wrote: > > Colin M. Andrews wrote: > > It is very simple, there is very little discipline at home and none at > > school. > > Sadly, this is all too true. > > They all know their rights, but nobody thought to teach them the > concomitant responsibilities. There are virtually no repercussions to > their behaviour - asbos are almost looked upon as a badge of honour. > Bring back the lash, I say, and while we're at it, the stocks, the > birch, national service, and short, short haircuts. > > Linda, feeling grumpy, because my 16 year old (well brought up) son went > to a party last night and came home minus his phone after the party was > crashed by a gang of thugs. Grrrrr. > *************************************** > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list > members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything > which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the > footers which will be put back anyway!) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I agree Colin but I treated them with no sign of aggression or superiority and just asked a simple question in a friendly manner, and they responded which surprised even me. Mind you I was about two feet taller than them and standing by the open car door!! LOL Chris PS Maybe it was the presence of my 6ft 4" son of 40 who kind of put them off a bit! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin M. Andrews" <> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Cemetery Damage It is very simple, there is very little discipline at home and none at school. The teachers are NOT even allowed to shout at the brats. You were very brave or very lucky or very stupid when you challenged the kids, too many people have been attacked by 12/14 year olds. I do agree with a previous writer who suggested that we walk our dogs in and around our cemeteries, but as has happened in other parts of the country goes in two's with a dog that barks and shows its teeth and carry a big heavy stick and do not be afraid to use it if attacked. I am not old and grumpy and I am soon to become a Grandfather for the first time; but I fear for the kids of tomorrow and I fear for the elderly of tomorrow, but not me as I have found from experience that to ask questions second is the best action. Yours, wondering what the country has come to Colin -----Original Message----- From: hampshire-life-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hampshire-life-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris & Caroline Sent: 24 March 2007 22:57 To: hampshire-life@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Cemetery Damage I challenged a couple of 14 years olds a couple of years ago who were trying to topple a gravestone and asked them this same question "why do you do it?" The answer, which is the same for everything, "we're bored" so "Have you no respect for the dead?" "Nope he's bleedin' dead ain't he?And whats it to you? You can't stop us so F off!" If somebody can explain this attitude to me I would be grateful!! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: <drpbudden@aol.com> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 2:51 PM Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Cemetery Damage Hi Margaret and all listers, What a heartbreaking incident to happen! Who are these 'people' that do so much damage, just what do they get out of it, are they proud of what they have done? I know only too well the heartache this sort of thing causes, I have seen it first hand at Ann's Hill Cemetery, Gosport. Where not just children's but babies graves have been desecrated! At times I despair for the future of the human race, when actions like this happen, I know thankfully, that this is the very few who do this. My point is to suggest that Family Historians who are able, visit regularly thier local cemetery, take the dog, or just a walk, regular visits 'MAY HELP' to deter those who apparently get fun damaging the graves of our ancestors, who should be allowed to rest in peace! A very sad, Den Message: 1 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:04:41 +0000 From: "Margaret Usmar" <margaretusmar@gmail.com> Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Australian Cemetery To: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <e4b83de80703230604q987ae90sab58fbff8ded5e34@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Like many people, I have had family emigrating to Australia for about 200 years. A relative who lives in Victoria has read this report in their newspaper, the Herald Sun: St Kilda Cemetery, one of the oldest in the state of Victoria, was visited by vandals on Tuesday night. Forty-four graves were badly damaged, including smashed and toppled headstones dating back more than 100 years. No religion was singled out by the vandals. Records go back to the 1800's, and efforts are being made to try and contact families with a connection to the graves involved. This attack occured despite St Kilda's being locked every night and with a security patrol in place, and police are investigating. I thought I would post this in case a fellow member of the list knew of their own family links to the cemetery. For further details they ask that you contact the necropolis on: 0061 (0)3 8558 8278 Margaret *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. 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Hi All Although I agree in the main with what you are saying about youth of today, we have taken another track in dealing with vandalism in Ryde cemetery. Certainly, the presence of adults in the cemetery, carrying out transcribing, and working on clearing graves, sees to have had the positive effect of deterring unwanted day time activities such as vandalism. Dog walkers, so long as they clear up after their animals, are another deterrent (but if they simply let their dogs loose, they are as bad as the kids in not respecting the cemetery grounds). We have also worked with groups from schools to tell them what the Cemetery has to offer. We even have a group of young people who are doing their Duke of Edinburgh Award, and their community contribution is by participating in the transcribing and research we are carrying out. Maybe more positive involvement of the younger people can result in some peer pressure on those who do not respect the burial grounds. I suppose the problem may be that not all cemeteries have a friends group, or an organisation such as the Ryde Social Heritage Group, which is looking after the cemetery. Perhaps that is what has to come first. If a cemetery looks neglected, the kids don't know what a valuable resource it is to historians and simply use it as a place to gather and have "fun". ATB Sally-Ann Chairperson Ryde Social Heritage Group

Colin M. Andrews wrote: > It is very simple, there is very little discipline at home and none at > school. Sadly, this is all too true. They all know their rights, but nobody thought to teach them the concomitant responsibilities. There are virtually no repercussions to their behaviour - asbos are almost looked upon as a badge of honour. Bring back the lash, I say, and while we're at it, the stocks, the birch, national service, and short, short haircuts. Linda, feeling grumpy, because my 16 year old (well brought up) son went to a party last night and came home minus his phone after the party was crashed by a gang of thugs. Grrrrr.

It is very simple, there is very little discipline at home and none at school. The teachers are NOT even allowed to shout at the brats. You were very brave or very lucky or very stupid when you challenged the kids, too many people have been attacked by 12/14 year olds. I do agree with a previous writer who suggested that we walk our dogs in and around our cemeteries, but as has happened in other parts of the country goes in two's with a dog that barks and shows its teeth and carry a big heavy stick and do not be afraid to use it if attacked. I am not old and grumpy and I am soon to become a Grandfather for the first time; but I fear for the kids of tomorrow and I fear for the elderly of tomorrow, but not me as I have found from experience that to ask questions second is the best action. Yours, wondering what the country has come to Colin -----Original Message----- From: hampshire-life-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hampshire-life-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris & Caroline Sent: 24 March 2007 22:57 To: hampshire-life@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Cemetery Damage I challenged a couple of 14 years olds a couple of years ago who were trying to topple a gravestone and asked them this same question "why do you do it?" The answer, which is the same for everything, "we're bored" so "Have you no respect for the dead?" "Nope he's bleedin' dead ain't he?And whats it to you? You can't stop us so F off!" If somebody can explain this attitude to me I would be grateful!! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: <drpbudden@aol.com> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 2:51 PM Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Cemetery Damage Hi Margaret and all listers, What a heartbreaking incident to happen! Who are these 'people' that do so much damage, just what do they get out of it, are they proud of what they have done? I know only too well the heartache this sort of thing causes, I have seen it first hand at Ann's Hill Cemetery, Gosport. Where not just children's but babies graves have been desecrated! At times I despair for the future of the human race, when actions like this happen, I know thankfully, that this is the very few who do this. My point is to suggest that Family Historians who are able, visit regularly thier local cemetery, take the dog, or just a walk, regular visits 'MAY HELP' to deter those who apparently get fun damaging the graves of our ancestors, who should be allowed to rest in peace! A very sad, Den Message: 1 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:04:41 +0000 From: "Margaret Usmar" <margaretusmar@gmail.com> Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Australian Cemetery To: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <e4b83de80703230604q987ae90sab58fbff8ded5e34@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Like many people, I have had family emigrating to Australia for about 200 years. A relative who lives in Victoria has read this report in their newspaper, the Herald Sun: St Kilda Cemetery, one of the oldest in the state of Victoria, was visited by vandals on Tuesday night. Forty-four graves were badly damaged, including smashed and toppled headstones dating back more than 100 years. No religion was singled out by the vandals. Records go back to the 1800's, and efforts are being made to try and contact families with a connection to the graves involved. This attack occured despite St Kilda's being locked every night and with a security patrol in place, and police are investigating. I thought I would post this in case a fellow member of the list knew of their own family links to the cemetery. For further details they ask that you contact the necropolis on: 0061 (0)3 8558 8278 Margaret *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000727-1, 03/23/2007 Tested on: 3/24/2007 10:45:16 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

They do the same here Chris and I am baffled as well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Caroline" <life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Cemetery Damage I challenged a couple of 14 years olds a couple of years ago who were trying to topple a gravestone and asked them this same question "why do you do it?" The answer, which is the same for everything, "we're bored" so "Have you no respect for the dead?" "Nope he's bleedin' dead ain't he?And whats it to you? You can't stop us so F off!" If somebody can explain this attitude to me I would be grateful!! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: <drpbudden@aol.com> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 2:51 PM Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Cemetery Damage Hi Margaret and all listers, What a heartbreaking incident to happen! Who are these 'people' that do so much damage, just what do they get out of it, are they proud of what they have done? I know only too well the heartache this sort of thing causes, I have seen it first hand at Ann's Hill Cemetery, Gosport. Where not just children's but babies graves have been desecrated! At times I despair for the future of the human race, when actions like this happen, I know thankfully, that this is the very few who do this. My point is to suggest that Family Historians who are able, visit regularly thier local cemetery, take the dog, or just a walk, regular visits 'MAY HELP' to deter those who apparently get fun damaging the graves of our ancestors, who should be allowed to rest in peace! A very sad, Den Message: 1 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:04:41 +0000 From: "Margaret Usmar" <margaretusmar@gmail.com> Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Australian Cemetery To: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <e4b83de80703230604q987ae90sab58fbff8ded5e34@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Like many people, I have had family emigrating to Australia for about 200 years. A relative who lives in Victoria has read this report in their newspaper, the Herald Sun: St Kilda Cemetery, one of the oldest in the state of Victoria, was visited by vandals on Tuesday night. Forty-four graves were badly damaged, including smashed and toppled headstones dating back more than 100 years. No religion was singled out by the vandals. Records go back to the 1800's, and efforts are being made to try and contact families with a connection to the graves involved. This attack occured despite St Kilda's being locked every night and with a security patrol in place, and police are investigating. I thought I would post this in case a fellow member of the list knew of their own family links to the cemetery. For further details they ask that you contact the necropolis on: 0061 (0)3 8558 8278 Margaret *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000727-1, 03/23/2007 Tested on: 3/24/2007 10:45:16 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.17/731 - Release Date: 3/23/2007 3:27 PM

I challenged a couple of 14 years olds a couple of years ago who were trying to topple a gravestone and asked them this same question "why do you do it?" The answer, which is the same for everything, "we're bored" so "Have you no respect for the dead?" "Nope he's bleedin' dead ain't he?And whats it to you? You can't stop us so F off!" If somebody can explain this attitude to me I would be grateful!! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: <drpbudden@aol.com> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 2:51 PM Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Cemetery Damage Hi Margaret and all listers, What a heartbreaking incident to happen! Who are these 'people' that do so much damage, just what do they get out of it, are they proud of what they have done? I know only too well the heartache this sort of thing causes, I have seen it first hand at Ann's Hill Cemetery, Gosport. Where not just children's but babies graves have been desecrated! At times I despair for the future of the human race, when actions like this happen, I know thankfully, that this is the very few who do this. My point is to suggest that Family Historians who are able, visit regularly thier local cemetery, take the dog, or just a walk, regular visits 'MAY HELP' to deter those who apparently get fun damaging the graves of our ancestors, who should be allowed to rest in peace! A very sad, Den Message: 1 Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:04:41 +0000 From: "Margaret Usmar" <margaretusmar@gmail.com> Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Australian Cemetery To: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <e4b83de80703230604q987ae90sab58fbff8ded5e34@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Like many people, I have had family emigrating to Australia for about 200 years. A relative who lives in Victoria has read this report in their newspaper, the Herald Sun: St Kilda Cemetery, one of the oldest in the state of Victoria, was visited by vandals on Tuesday night. Forty-four graves were badly damaged, including smashed and toppled headstones dating back more than 100 years. No religion was singled out by the vandals. Records go back to the 1800's, and efforts are being made to try and contact families with a connection to the graves involved. This attack occured despite St Kilda's being locked every night and with a security patrol in place, and police are investigating. I thought I would post this in case a fellow member of the list knew of their own family links to the cemetery. For further details they ask that you contact the necropolis on: 0061 (0)3 8558 8278 Margaret *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000727-1, 03/23/2007 Tested on: 3/24/2007 10:45:16 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

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