GENEALOGICAL HUMOUR GENEALOGICAL HUMOUR . SODS LAW OF GENEALOGY: After years of painstaking research when you finally solve the mystery of the skeleton in the closet, your tight-lipped spinster aunt will sniff, "Well, I could have told you all that!" SODS SECOND LAW OF GENEALOGY: Never ever put the right information on ANY of your certificates because if you do your descendants may actually find you. 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How well I remember them when age 14 I worked at Winchester, Chris. Most of the bigger shops had 'gofers' Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Caroline" <crhayles@btinternet.com> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Occupations > Exactly as the name suggests David > He ran errands for people such as employers or maybe deliver messages > I worked at a grocery shop which had two errand boys who delivered the > groceries on Errand boy bikes, these were large bicycles with a metal > frame > in the front to hold a large basket which held the goods. sometimes they > may > have had two or three parcels to deliver at one trip. > Basically they were what are termed as gofers!! Go fer this and go for > that! > Chris > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Parker" <parker3250@rogers.com> > To: "HampshireLife List" <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 5:33 PM > Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Occupations > > > In 1891 one was mine was described as an "errand boy": actually a > number were so described. What exactly would be the status of an"errand > boy"? Would he be an employee, or would he be self-employed? > In the 1901, the same man is described as a "Government Art > Master". > I understand that one had to have attended and graduated from a National > Art > Training School to so describe yourself. Is this true? I also understand > that there was such a school at South Kensington, renamed the Royal > College > of Art in 1897. Were there others?. > > Thank you > > David > > > *************************************** > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list > members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything > which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the > footers which will be put back anyway!) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 000731-0, 04/06/2007 > Tested on: 4/8/2007 12:13:10 AM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > *************************************** > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list > members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything > which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the > footers which will be put back anyway!) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi at Hampshire life I have a number of files and Gedcoms collected over the past 2 decades; if anyone would like a free lookup for Hampshire or Wiltshire please contact, best regards Ben

Those old bikes they had were flippin' heavy as well! I had to use one oneday when working for a local supermarket to cycle around the New Forest collecting grocery orders, normally used my own but it had a puncture and did not have time to mend it so used the errand boys bike!! Okay downhill but a killer up hill with no gears and that heavy basket in the front! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Skeates" <benske01@primusonline.com.au> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 12:45 AM Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Occupations How well I remember them when age 14 I worked at Winchester, Chris. Most of the bigger shops had 'gofers' Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Caroline" <crhayles@btinternet.com> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Occupations > Exactly as the name suggests David > He ran errands for people such as employers or maybe deliver messages > I worked at a grocery shop which had two errand boys who delivered the > groceries on Errand boy bikes, these were large bicycles with a metal > frame > in the front to hold a large basket which held the goods. sometimes they > may > have had two or three parcels to deliver at one trip. > Basically they were what are termed as gofers!! Go fer this and go for > that! > Chris

Exactly as the name suggests David He ran errands for people such as employers or maybe deliver messages I worked at a grocery shop which had two errand boys who delivered the groceries on Errand boy bikes, these were large bicycles with a metal frame in the front to hold a large basket which held the goods. sometimes they may have had two or three parcels to deliver at one trip. Basically they were what are termed as gofers!! Go fer this and go for that! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Parker" <parker3250@rogers.com> To: "HampshireLife List" <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 5:33 PM Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Occupations In 1891 one was mine was described as an "errand boy": actually a number were so described. What exactly would be the status of an"errand boy"? Would he be an employee, or would he be self-employed? In the 1901, the same man is described as a "Government Art Master". I understand that one had to have attended and graduated from a National Art Training School to so describe yourself. Is this true? I also understand that there was such a school at South Kensington, renamed the Royal College of Art in 1897. Were there others?. Thank you David *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000731-0, 04/06/2007 Tested on: 4/8/2007 12:13:10 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

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On 7/4/07 17:33, "David Parker" <parker3250@rogers.com> wrote: > In 1891 one was mine was described as an "errand boy": One to run errands. A lad employed by a shop or trader to help around the place, to take messages and deliver orders. I had such a job with an off-license on Saturday. I would help stock shelves, sort the empties in the yard and deliver drinks. 10/6 plus any tips in 1945-50. HTH -- Ernie Bull Bristol

In 1891 one was mine was described as an "errand boy": actually a number were so described. What exactly would be the status of an"errand boy"? Would he be an employee, or would he be self-employed? In the 1901, the same man is described as a "Government Art Master". I understand that one had to have attended and graduated from a National Art Training School to so describe yourself. Is this true? I also understand that there was such a school at South Kensington, renamed the Royal College of Art in 1897. Were there others?. Thank you David

David, 'errand boy' was generally the most junior employee, used to run errands, ( gopher in Canadian parlance), most businesses employed them and I guess they still do. BUT DAVID, you are a MARRIED MAN, haven't you worked it out yet, all us poor guy's have been errand boys since those fateful words 'I DO' were uttered .. Len On 7-Apr-07, at 9:33 AM, David Parker wrote: > In 1891 one was mine was described as an "errand boy": > actually a number were so described. What exactly would be the > status of an"errand boy"? Would he be an employee, or would he be > self-employed? > In the 1901, the same man is described as a "Government Art > Master". I understand that one had to have attended and graduated > from a National Art Training School to so describe yourself. Is > this true? I also understand that there was such a school at South > Kensington, renamed the Royal College of Art in 1897. Were there > others?. > > Thank you > > David > > > *

Hi Sally-Ann Thanks for that additional information, might prove useful in finally identifying the type of bike. I haven't contacted the DVLA, I'm not sure that they can supply such information (or more probably won't). I suspect the information is also available from the IWCC (the licensing authority), but again maybe it's not made public. Chris - thanks for the link to the Invicta, I'll keep that in mind. Jon Baker -----Original Message----- From: SALLY-ANN GARRETT [mailto:sallyann.garrett2@btinternet.com] Sent: 03 April 2007 12:01 To: hampshire-life@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Motor bike date Hi Jon My husband took a look at your photo, and was able to identify a few things that might help It has a side valve engine, and an acetylene lamp It has a belt drive, and no drum brakes. It must be a very early model based on these markers/features Have you thought of checking with the DVLA for the number? Best Wishes Sally-Ann ----- Original Message ---- From: Jon Baker <jon@vectis10w.freeserve.co.uk> To: hampshire-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 2 April, 2007 7:40:33 PM Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Motor bike date snip I have also been looking for a way of dating a bike by registration plate, and also identifying the manufacturer/mode, I have a great picture of my Grandfather on his bike in I think about the 1920s on DL4272 and would love to be able to identify the type of machine, but no luck. You can see the picture at http://www.vectisjon.com/baker.htm. It seems like a really useful database that no-one has been able to tap into as yet (AFAIK). snip

My reading is different. I would suggest that the 1881 census shows Isabella Troy as a domestic servant to David Reid McKinnon the surgeon General, and Mary Ann Suckling as a Domestic to the same man, and not on the staff of the Royal Victoria.. At the time his wife, Annie, was living in Aberdeen. David

Yes I remember the old AA books had that list in. They were a great help in those days! And so was the old RAC one. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Baker" <jon@vectis10w.freeserve.co.uk> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Motor bike date Chris I found the list provided at http://www.ukcar.com/features/area.htm as well. I decided the other lists were probably more accurate when this one said that "DL" was Portsmouth, when we all know it was almost exclusively Isle of Wight - Portsmouth also used it later I know but to not even mention the Island connection was a serious mistake (in my book) :-) I found another web site that had BA listed as Newcastle, there seems to be some dubious data around for this information. But Slaford/Manchester seems to be reasonably consistent across several different sources. I wish I could find one of my old AA books that used to have the definitive list printed every year. It seems like the Salford connection may fit in with Bazzer's family history anyway. Jon Baker -----Original Message----- From: Chris & Caroline [mailto:crhayles@btinternet.com] Sent: 02 April 2007 22:59 To: hampshire-life@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Motor bike date Sorry I must have misread it, you are correct but it does not specify Salford on the list I checked just MANCHESTER. the website I used is at http://www.ukcar.com/features/reg_year.htm for the main spiel and http://www.ukcar.com/features/area.htm for the registeration areas. I like the fact that AAA 1 was from Hampshire!! My first Morris Minor was an old Southampton Number, TR and then I had a Minor 1000 with an IOW number SDL 879 Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Baker" <jon@vectis10w.freeserve.co.uk> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Motor bike date Hey Chris Sorry to have to correct you, but EBA 631 is a Salford registration, not Peterborough (or Isle of Ely). It's the second and third letters that determined the origin for a 3 letter plate, not the first two (though for a 2 letter plate the two letters would indicate the origin, so EBA 123 and BA 1234 would both be Salford). Below is a useful reference site that explains: http://www.fleetdata.co.uk/allocations.html I was quite surprised when you said that the 3 letter/number combination was reversed in the mid 50s having owned my first car which was XDL755 which was registered in 1962, but then it was an Island motor and obviously we were more behind the times than I thought. I have also been looking for a way of dating a bike by registration plate, and also identifying the manufacturer/mode, I have a great picture of my Grandfather on his bike in I think about the 1920s on DL4272 and would love to be able to identify the type of machine, but no luck. You can see the picture at http://www.vectisjon.com/baker.htm. It seems like a really useful database that no-one has been able to tap into as yet (AFAIK). Jon Baker *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000730-2, 04/03/2007 Tested on: 4/3/2007 10:35:44 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

Chris I found the list provided at http://www.ukcar.com/features/area.htm as well. I decided the other lists were probably more accurate when this one said that "DL" was Portsmouth, when we all know it was almost exclusively Isle of Wight - Portsmouth also used it later I know but to not even mention the Island connection was a serious mistake (in my book) :-) I found another web site that had BA listed as Newcastle, there seems to be some dubious data around for this information. But Slaford/Manchester seems to be reasonably consistent across several different sources. I wish I could find one of my old AA books that used to have the definitive list printed every year. It seems like the Salford connection may fit in with Bazzer's family history anyway. Jon Baker -----Original Message----- From: Chris & Caroline [mailto:crhayles@btinternet.com] Sent: 02 April 2007 22:59 To: hampshire-life@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Motor bike date Sorry I must have misread it, you are correct but it does not specify Salford on the list I checked just MANCHESTER. the website I used is at http://www.ukcar.com/features/reg_year.htm for the main spiel and http://www.ukcar.com/features/area.htm for the registeration areas. I like the fact that AAA 1 was from Hampshire!! My first Morris Minor was an old Southampton Number, TR and then I had a Minor 1000 with an IOW number SDL 879 Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Baker" <jon@vectis10w.freeserve.co.uk> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Motor bike date Hey Chris Sorry to have to correct you, but EBA 631 is a Salford registration, not Peterborough (or Isle of Ely). It's the second and third letters that determined the origin for a 3 letter plate, not the first two (though for a 2 letter plate the two letters would indicate the origin, so EBA 123 and BA 1234 would both be Salford). Below is a useful reference site that explains: http://www.fleetdata.co.uk/allocations.html I was quite surprised when you said that the 3 letter/number combination was reversed in the mid 50s having owned my first car which was XDL755 which was registered in 1962, but then it was an Island motor and obviously we were more behind the times than I thought. I have also been looking for a way of dating a bike by registration plate, and also identifying the manufacturer/mode, I have a great picture of my Grandfather on his bike in I think about the 1920s on DL4272 and would love to be able to identify the type of machine, but no luck. You can see the picture at http://www.vectisjon.com/baker.htm. It seems like a really useful database that no-one has been able to tap into as yet (AFAIK). Jon Baker

Jon & Baz Could also be a 1921 Invicta see photo http://www.realclassic.co.uk/invicta07030600.html And click on More Bike Profiles which takes you to loads of them at http://www.realclassic.co.uk/profiles.html Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "SALLY-ANN GARRETT" <sallyann.garrett2@btinternet.com> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Motor bike date Hi Jon My husband took a look at your photo, and was able to identify a few things that might help It has a side valve engine, and an acetylene lamp It has a belt drive, and no drum brakes. It must be a very early model based on these markers/features Have you thought of checking with the DVLA for the number? Best Wishes Sally-Ann ----- Original Message ---- From: Jon Baker <jon@vectis10w.freeserve.co.uk> To: hampshire-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 2 April, 2007 7:40:33 PM Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Motor bike date snip I have also been looking for a way of dating a bike by registration plate, and also identifying the manufacturer/mode, I have a great picture of my Grandfather on his bike in I think about the 1920s on DL4272 and would love to be able to identify the type of machine, but no luck. You can see the picture at http://www.vectisjon.com/baker.htm. It seems like a really useful database that no-one has been able to tap into as yet (AFAIK). snip *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000730-2, 04/03/2007 Tested on: 4/3/2007 12:30:17 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

I thankee koind sor! Them dere Darset villages be pretty bain't they? Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Len Payne" <lenpayne@shaw.ca> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 2:10 AM Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Village website updates Chris, a great job on the Tolpuddle update, the photo's are excellent and the text informative. Good job mush. Len > > > > The following updates and new additions have now been added to our > website > the SOUTHERN LINE(UK) > http://southernlife.org.uk > > UPDATE/ADDITION: > DORSET > Story of the Tolpuddle Martyrs > http://www.southernlife.org.uk/dorset/tolpuddle_martyrs.htm > > > > *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000730-2, 04/03/2007 Tested on: 4/3/2007 12:30:07 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

Hi Jon My husband took a look at your photo, and was able to identify a few things that might help It has a side valve engine, and an acetylene lamp It has a belt drive, and no drum brakes. It must be a very early model based on these markers/features Have you thought of checking with the DVLA for the number? Best Wishes Sally-Ann ----- Original Message ---- From: Jon Baker <jon@vectis10w.freeserve.co.uk> To: hampshire-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 2 April, 2007 7:40:33 PM Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Motor bike date SNIP I have also been looking for a way of dating a bike by registration plate, and also identifying the manufacturer/mode, I have a great picture of my Grandfather on his bike in I think about the 1920s on DL4272 and would love to be able to identify the type of machine, but no luck. You can see the picture at http://www.vectisjon.com/baker.htm. It seems like a really useful database that no-one has been able to tap into as yet (AFAIK). SNIP

Hi Jon My husband took a look at your photo, and was able to identify a few things that might help It has a side valve engine, and an acetylene lamp It has a belt drive, and no drum brakes. It must be a very early model based on these markers/features Have you thought of checking with the DVLA for the number? Best Wishes Sally-Ann ----- Original Message ---- From: Jon Baker <jon@vectis10w.freeserve.co.uk> To: hampshire-life@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 2 April, 2007 7:40:33 PM Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Motor bike date snip I have also been looking for a way of dating a bike by registration plate, and also identifying the manufacturer/mode, I have a great picture of my Grandfather on his bike in I think about the 1920s on DL4272 and would love to be able to identify the type of machine, but no luck. You can see the picture at http://www.vectisjon.com/baker.htm. It seems like a really useful database that no-one has been able to tap into as yet (AFAIK). snip

Jeepers, that's going back 59 years, but I think her name was Nora .. Len On 3-Apr-07, at 9:54 AM, joanniel wrote: > Thanks Len > > It is possible we could be related. I have relatives that live near > Stonehedge - actually at Billingshurst. > Do you know that name of the teacher other than Miss Bullpit. > > Joan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Len Payne" <lenpayne@shaw.ca> > To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 8:26 AM > Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Bullpitt > > >> Saw this in the Daily Echo .. any connection with recent posts on >> Bulpitt family. >> >> One of my teachers at Hedge End Secondary School was a Miss Bullpitt, >> she can be seen on the School Photo's section of site under School >> Field Trip to Stonehenge, >> >> >> >> Len >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> BULPITT >> DENNIS >> (Ex Fair Oak Village Policeman) >> Passed away on >> March 26th, 2007 >> after a short illness. >> Loving Husband of Anne and beloved Father of >> Ged and Trish. >> Sadly missed by all >> the family. >> --------- >> Funeral Service on Monday April 2nd at >> St. Thomas' Church, >> Fair Oak at 3.00 p.m. >> followed by interment in Fair Oak Cemetery. >> Flowers to >> W.G. Bush, >> Funeral Directors, >> 73 Leigh Road, >> Eastleigh >> SO50 9DF. >> view...

Thanks Len It is possible we could be related. I have relatives that live near Stonehedge - actually at Billingshurst. Do you know that name of the teacher other than Miss Bullpit. Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Len Payne" <lenpayne@shaw.ca> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 8:26 AM Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Bullpitt > Saw this in the Daily Echo .. any connection with recent posts on > Bulpitt family. > > One of my teachers at Hedge End Secondary School was a Miss Bullpitt, > she can be seen on the School Photo's section of site under School > Field Trip to Stonehenge, > > > > Len > > > > > > > > BULPITT > DENNIS > (Ex Fair Oak Village Policeman) > Passed away on > March 26th, 2007 > after a short illness. > Loving Husband of Anne and beloved Father of > Ged and Trish. > Sadly missed by all > the family. > --------- > Funeral Service on Monday April 2nd at > St. Thomas' Church, > Fair Oak at 3.00 p.m. > followed by interment in Fair Oak Cemetery. > Flowers to > W.G. Bush, > Funeral Directors, > 73 Leigh Road, > Eastleigh > SO50 9DF. > view... > *************************************** > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list > members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything > which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the > footers which will be put back anyway!) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >