Hello list, Just a note to let you know that I shall be in darkest Cornwall from Friday afternoon until Wednesday evening. It's my annual pilgrimage to lots of exciting things in the Penzance area, including Mazey Day (don't ask, check Google), and my last opportunity to go anywhere before I'm officially banned (temporarily) from driving after my hip replacement. I shall still have access to a computer, the list tools, and email, so most of you won't be affected. You will only see a difference if one of your messages to the list gets trapped in the list tools for my attention, because I will only be able to check them once a day, so they may be trapped for as much as a day before I can attend to them. If one of your messages gets delayed, please don't send it again until at least 24 hours have passed, because it's an odds-on favourite that the second attempt will be trapped for the same reason that the first one was. With very few exceptions the messages which get trapped by the list tools are a certain brand of pork luncheon meat, and messages which are "too big". No message is "too big", provided that it is genuine information, and not a reply with one or more messages left intact without deletion of the bits we've already seen, and don't need to see again. So if you keep just enough to make sense in your reply it should sail through without any problems. Read, learn, and inwardly digest the footers to this (and every) message and you won't go far wrong. I'm very pleased to say that since I've instituted the process of bouncing unsnipped messages back to the sender, as a gentle reminder to replace a bad habit (or forgetfulness) with better practice, the number of unsnipped messages has reduced dramatically. This is good for all of us, since you're not sending us what we've already seen, and more importantly, for the archives, which don't have a delete button. However, it is worth noting that there is another reason, which is rapidly becoming the major reason, why messages get trapped in the list tools for being "too big", and that is that they contain HTML, RTF, or stationery. I'm sure most of you know that all messages sent via the RootsWeb servers MUST be plain text only, but if you're in any doubt, check that the options in your email client (Outlook Express, Eudora, or whatever) are set to PLAIN TEXT, at least when sending to any email address ending in "rootsweb.com". Sometimes this problem is caused by your ISP after you've hit the "Send" button, by their adding taglines which are unacceptable to RootsWeb's servers, and there is little you can do about it. All you can do is to check your available settings, or ask your ISP to provide you with the opportunity to send messages in the format of your choice. Incidentally, anyone using AOL version 5 or earlier has a separate problem, which can be solved by upgrading to a newer version. Contact me on the admin address if you want further details. So, as someone in Hollywood once said, "That's It, Folks!" I'm assuming that it will be "business as usual" while I'm away, and that you will not be telling us why we should buy your snake oil, why you vote Tory /Raving Monster Loony, why your are a devout Jew, Hindu, Jain, Zoroastrian or Taliban leader, start any flaming wars, or anything else which will violate RootsWeb's Accepted Usage Policy. As usual, this message is NOT for discussion on the list. Any comments or queries will be welcome, as ever, OFF-LIST, at DORSET-admin@rootsweb.com. Regards, Davy Cannon, Dorchester, Dorset. List Admin, Hampshire-Life List.

Check my website Margaret it has the history of the church there as well! Chris SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://Southernlife.org.uk History of the Hampshire, Dorset and IOW Villages,Towns and Churches ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Usmar" <margaretusmar@gmail.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:42 PM Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Batch Numbers I've been searching the IGI batch numbers for numerous Hampshire locations, but Kings Somborne isn't listed. Does it not have a church of its own? If not, where would be the nearest one likely for villagers to have used for hatching, matching and despatching? *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Rod Whale, It occurs to me the name might be ANjoubeat. As you know Anjou is a district in France and name may have originated there. I know from experience what a huge difference one missing or wrong letter can make in your search of census or parish records. Best of luck. Irene of Seattle former Londoner

I've been searching the IGI batch numbers for numerous Hampshire locations, but Kings Somborne isn't listed. Does it not have a church of its own? If not, where would be the nearest one likely for villagers to have used for hatching, matching and despatching?

Another trend over here is to use the headstones as paving to make pathways in the churchyard. Lyndhurst I think it is has a path that seems to go on and on and is headstones all the way! They are now thinking of putting six people in one plot now, but only on graves that are over a certain age!! Must be following the trend of pulling down houses and building blocks of flats on the land!! chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Usmar" <margaretusmar@gmail.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Grave Markers This may apply to many of us who, having established where our families were buried, arrive on a visit only to find no sign of them anywhere. More than 20 years ago, a cemetery in New Zealand was in the way of a new motorway. The remains were dug up re-interred in a mass grave and, in at least this one instance, a relative gave the grave marker (headstone) to a local museum. Following a twenty-year search, a direct descendant of the man commemorated on the headstone has finally rediscovered it - buried at the back of a shed and destined for dumping. It does make you wonder if some of our missing Hampshire headstones are languishing in a shed somewhere, to say nothing of what happened to this museum 'gift'. Might it be worth contacting museums in Hampshire to see if they have ever received any such gifts?

Hello David, Thanks for your reply to my query which was the only one I received. I will see what I can find with your spelling and if I succeed I will update you. Thanks again, Rod.

This may apply to many of us who, having established where our families were buried, arrive on a visit only to find no sign of them anywhere. More than 20 years ago, a cemetery in New Zealand was in the way of a new motorway. The remains were dug up re-interred in a mass grave and, in at least this one instance, a relative gave the grave marker (headstone) to a local museum. Following a twenty-year search, a direct descendant of the man commemorated on the headstone has finally rediscovered it - buried at the back of a shed and destined for dumping. It does make you wonder if some of our missing Hampshire headstones are languishing in a shed somewhere, to say nothing of what happened to this museum 'gift'. Might it be worth contacting museums in Hampshire to see if they have ever received any such gifts?

The Moving History website provides a useful guide to searching the various UK film archives: http://www.movinghistory.ac.uk There are many films of general interest, including a clip of Queen Victoria's funeral. The site has recently been updated to include a special section on the Home Front. This collection includes a sobering film showing the scenes of devastation in Exeter after the Blitz: http://www.movinghistory.ac.uk/homefront/films/sw1.html Chris

Hi Rod, if no-one can come up with a more believable guess, then I offer the possibility that the name Ajoubeat might come from Adjubeat which was an old misreading of Latin MS 'ut jubeat' of Plautus. Not being a latin scholar I can only guess that this might mean 'how decreed'. Regards, David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rodney Whale" <clargo@tinyworld.co.uk> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 9:50 PM Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Seeking a subscriber with knowledge of Frenchsurnames. > Hello everybody, > > I have just discovered that one of my female ancestors, a 2 x g.g.mother, > who lived in Hampshire from about 1830 till her death in 1864 had the maiden > name of Ajoubeat. The spelling is the same on birth certificate entries for > children born in 1839 and 1844 and is easily deciphered. > > The Registrar for the area has suggested it might be of French origin but I > have been unable to find it on the websites where it might be expected to > occur. > > I am hoping somebody on the list might be able to throw me a clue please. In > census returns the birthplace is shown as Lambeth but despite searching for > many years I have failed to find a marriage for her and her 'husband'. > > Regards, Rod in Andover. > > > *************************************** > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.16/849 - Release Date: 14/06/2007 12:44 > >

Hello everybody, I have just discovered that one of my female ancestors, a 2 x g.g.mother, who lived in Hampshire from about 1830 till her death in 1864 had the maiden name of Ajoubeat. The spelling is the same on birth certificate entries for children born in 1839 and 1844 and is easily deciphered. The Registrar for the area has suggested it might be of French origin but I have been unable to find it on the websites where it might be expected to occur. I am hoping somebody on the list might be able to throw me a clue please. In census returns the birthplace is shown as Lambeth but despite searching for many years I have failed to find a marriage for her and her 'husband'. Regards, Rod in Andover.

Hampshire Treasures Roman-Catholic cemetery raised above level of Romsey Road. Wrought-iron entrance gates and railings. Surrounding walls date from 1829. Two rendered mausoleums and two railed graves. Many interesting tombstones including those of the Tichborne family. Fine views through trees to the eastern hills. Map Reference SU 473 294 ChrisSOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://Southernlife.org.uk History of the Hampshire, Dorset and IOW Villages,Towns and Churches ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Read" <jill.eread@ntlworld.com> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Fwd: Cemetery there is a cemetery that I believe was dedicated to Roman Catholic burials it is in Romsey Road just below the hospital. I think it is known as Westhill Cemetery. regards Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Usmar" <margaretusmar@gmail.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 2:36 PM Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Fwd: Cemetery > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Margaret Usmar <margaretusmar@gmail.com> > Date: Jun 15, 2007 2:35 PM > Subject: Cemetery > To: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-@rootsweb.com > > Has Winchester ever had a dedicated cemetery for Roman Catholic burials, > or > just a section in a cemetery serving the city? Some of my RC ancestors > pre-date the Catholic Emancipation Act so any advice would be welcome. I > have to confess to never knowing the whereabouts of any cemetery when I > lived in Winchester. > > Thank you again. > > Margaret > *************************************** > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list > members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything > which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the > footers which will be put back anyway!) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

there is a cemetery that I believe was dedicated to Roman Catholic burials it is in Romsey Road just below the hospital. I think it is known as Westhill Cemetery. regards Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Usmar" <margaretusmar@gmail.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 2:36 PM Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Fwd: Cemetery > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Margaret Usmar <margaretusmar@gmail.com> > Date: Jun 15, 2007 2:35 PM > Subject: Cemetery > To: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-@rootsweb.com > > Has Winchester ever had a dedicated cemetery for Roman Catholic burials, > or > just a section in a cemetery serving the city? Some of my RC ancestors > pre-date the Catholic Emancipation Act so any advice would be welcome. I > have to confess to never knowing the whereabouts of any cemetery when I > lived in Winchester. > > Thank you again. > > Margaret > *************************************** > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list > members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything > which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the > footers which will be put back anyway!) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Margaret Usmar <margaretusmar@gmail.com> Date: Jun 15, 2007 2:35 PM Subject: Cemetery To: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-@rootsweb.com Has Winchester ever had a dedicated cemetery for Roman Catholic burials, or just a section in a cemetery serving the city? Some of my RC ancestors pre-date the Catholic Emancipation Act so any advice would be welcome. I have to confess to never knowing the whereabouts of any cemetery when I lived in Winchester. Thank you again. Margaret

To save Jo looking for it here are the details SOUTHAMPTON BEREAVEMENT SERVICES They have a data base of burials in Southampton area which they will search for you - contact Ray Hancock,who is extremely helpful at the following E-mail : r.hancock@southampton.gov.uk Address: Bereavement Services Unit, 6 Bugle Street, Southampton Hants SO14 2AJ, UK Phone: +44 (0)23 80 228609 Fax: +44 (0)23 80 330364 Chris SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://Southernlife.org.uk History of the Hampshire, Dorset and IOW Villages,Towns and Churches ----- Original Message ----- From: <DELHACK@aol.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:10 AM Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] RE : Freemantle burial groud (for Margaret Usmar) Hi again Margaret, you're THOMAS family are entered in the Freemantle burial register, but their monumental inscriptions are from the Millbrook index. If you contact the Southampton Bereavement Office, they have lists of grave details for the main cemeteries in Southampton. Hopefully you can get co-ordinates for the graves, which is also handy for finding ancestors that have no head-stones. best wishes Jo ps I'll send you the link later, have to go, grandson wriggling away on my lap ! *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The parish of Christ Church, Freemantle was formed in 1866 from Millbrook. Original burial registers (as well as the card index and fiche) for the years 1875 to 1929 are at Southampton City archive with fiche also at the HRO. Regards Linda & Tony Hampshire OPC Co-ordinators -----Original Message----- From: hampshire-life-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hampshire-life-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris & Caroline Sent: 14 June 2007 00:15 To: hampshire-life@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Burial Ground If this is the Freemantle on the west of Southampton then I never knew there was a burial ground there. I have never seen one, I think the nearest one being in the old Millbrook Church which was moved to make way for a housing estate! Or Holybrook near the General Hospital. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Usmar" <margaretusmar@gmail.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 1:21 PM Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Burial Ground Can anyone tell me whether Freemantle Burial Ground is still open for burials? And if not, when did it close? I had heard that it received some bomb damage during a raid in WWII - would the burials (especially 1881 and before) be on an index I can search over the internet? I know that my gg.grandfather and at least two of her children were buried there; I'm hoping to find my gg.grandmother and, possibly, a grandchild. Many thanks. *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi again Margaret, you're THOMAS family are entered in the Freemantle burial register, but their monumental inscriptions are from the Millbrook index. If you contact the Southampton Bereavement Office, they have lists of grave details for the main cemeteries in Southampton. Hopefully you can get co-ordinates for the graves, which is also handy for finding ancestors that have no head-stones. best wishes Jo ps I'll send you the link later, have to go, grandson wriggling away on my lap !

If this is the Freemantle on the west of Southampton then I never knew there was a burial ground there. I have never seen one, I think the nearest one being in the old Millbrook Church which was moved to make way for a housing estate! Or Holybrook near the General Hospital. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Usmar" <margaretusmar@gmail.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 1:21 PM Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] Burial Ground Can anyone tell me whether Freemantle Burial Ground is still open for burials? And if not, when did it close? I had heard that it received some bomb damage during a raid in WWII - would the burials (especially 1881 and before) be on an index I can search over the internet? I know that my gg.grandfather and at least two of her children were buried there; I'm hoping to find my gg.grandmother and, possibly, a grandchild. Many thanks. *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone tell me whether Freemantle Burial Ground is still open for burials? And if not, when did it close? I had heard that it received some bomb damage during a raid in WWII - would the burials (especially 1881 and before) be on an index I can search over the internet? I know that my gg.grandfather and at least two of her children were buried there; I'm hoping to find my gg.grandmother and, possibly, a grandchild. Many thanks.

Thanks Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Caroline" <crhayles@btinternet.com> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] cemetries > Yes Jenny > the other one is Hollybrook Cemetery which is near the General Hospital > Chris > SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) > http://Southernlife.org.uk > History of the Hampshire, Dorset and IOW > Villages,Towns and Churches > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jennifer wilson" <lizzygold@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 7:12 PM > Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] cemetries > > > This may be a stupid question but..... > > Is the Old Cemetery on Southampton Common the same as the Hill Lane > Cemetery? > > Thanks in advance > Jenny > *************************************** > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list > members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything > which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the > footers which will be put back anyway!) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list > members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything > which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the > footers which will be put back anyway!) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes Jenny the other one is Hollybrook Cemetery which is near the General Hospital Chris SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://Southernlife.org.uk History of the Hampshire, Dorset and IOW Villages,Towns and Churches ----- Original Message ----- From: "jennifer wilson" <lizzygold@tiscali.co.uk> To: <hampshire-life@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 7:12 PM Subject: [HAMPSHIRE-LIFE] cemetries This may be a stupid question but..... Is the Old Cemetery on Southampton Common the same as the Hill Lane Cemetery? Thanks in advance Jenny *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message