My BANISTER/BANNISTER family, centred on Old Basing, occasionally decides its name is BURNISTON, but it's all the same family. The WHISLER married into it in 1806 and the GILL(E)Y arrived in 1831. Anybody else researching this group? Dorothy M Whakatane, NZ http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies - What's on at your local cinema?

I assume you have been in contact with Brian Christmas, who has been conducting a one-name study of the surname Christmas for twenty years or so. He is in the Register of One-Name Studies on the GOONS site http://www.one-name.org/ Alan McGowan ----- Original Message ----- From: "l.marcotte" <l.marcotte@attbi.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 12:46 AM Subject: RE: [HantsLife] CHRISTMAS (the name not the occassion!) Hi Chris & Caroline, I believe you were referring to my request for information on William Jerimiah Christmas and family. My search was focused in the East Meon, Hampshire area, but I was having little luck locating family members. I will certainly take a look at the Surrey villages for any new clues. Thank you for the new information. Loni Marcotte Vancouver USA

The Gazettes Online site has been operating for a few months. This is an extract from an article that I sent to a family history society journal in November last year: > The London Gazette, the Belfast Gazette, and the Edinburgh Gazette are searchable on-line at www.gazettes-online.co.uk. Choose the required publication, then click on "Archive" without selecting an option from the drop-down menu. The Gazette records military appointments and medals, and can be searched for specified date ranges between 1900 and 1997. There is a separate search option for entries since 1997. Searching is conducted using optical character recognition. In most cases this is accurate, but Gurney has been found as Giirney, and Smith as Sniith, so use your imagination. < Alan McGowan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Caroline" <chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:48 AM Subject: [Ham] The Gazette on line The " TIMES" to-day reports that the first phase of Gazettes-Online will be launched this month. The Stationery Office is working to place the London Gazette, the Edinburgh Gazette, and the Belfast Gazette online. These are official publications, "Published by Authority" which list all sorts of Official notices, including awards of medals and decorations, appointments, obituaries, bankruptcy notices etc, etc, dating back to1665. The first release covers the two world wars and 20th Century honours and awards. The next phase will include the rest of the 20th Century editions. In total the London Gazette consists of 56,000 editions [two million pages], and the article in the Times says that the site will have a search facility so that family historians will be able to check awards of gallantry medals, promotion of officers, changes of name, or naturalisation of an ancestor simply by typing in a surname. The site is www.gazettes-online.co.uk but do not all rush, it might turn out to be like the 1901 census!! Chris and Caroline

Thanks Charles It was a great loss for the world not just the US as they were doing it for mankind. Like the heroes who did all the things centuries ago to make the world a better place for us today, these men are doing it for our next generation and generations to follow. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: <CHASAIR1@cs.com> To: <chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk>; <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [HantsLife] A Sad loss Chris, et al, Thank you for your thoughts. My wife covered the Challenger explosion 17 years ago, and unfortunately has been called again into service for the television networks. With her I was fortunate enough to meet several of the astronauts - I consider them to be the American heroes of current day. They are wonderful people, and courageous. I had stepped out my door to watch here in the Dallas area, as the shuttle passed over. As I watched, the breakup of the craft began...it was horrifying. All I can think is, God Bless each of the astronauts for their bravery. Charles Hampshire Celina, TX USA --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003

Hi, Some of my Notes: Parish of Hannington # 428 Burial of Jane Piper 81 yrs of The Union House March 10th 1873 performed by Thos. Dalmith(?) Rector #381 Burial of Thomas Piper 84 yrs of Hannington August 11, 1866 performed by K.E. Harrison, Rector All the best, Edna - Ottawa

Hi, Some of my Notes: Parish of Hannington # 428 Burial of Jane Piper 81 yrs of The Union House March 10th 1873 performed by Thos. Dalmith(?) Rector #381 Burial of Thomas Piper 84 yrs of Hannington August 11, 1866 performed by K.E. Harrison, Rector All the best, Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: Pasttimes99@aol.com To: ekbrits@sympatico.ca Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 5:19 AM Subject: Re: Knights of E/Meon Hello Edna, I am sending all the listings for Knight in E/Meon on the net. I must admit i thought you may have looked at it, but here goes. Baptisms 17.3.1729 Thomas Knight son Thomas and Mary 5.4.1731 John Knight son Thomas and Mary 31.5.1729 William Paige son William and Anne {surname spelt as that in Warblington.} thought i would throw it in. Marriages 21.1.1686 Peter Knight and Mary Hockley Burials 20.3.1707 John Knight age 97yrs 19.11.1740 Thomas Knight no age given 19.5.1684 Thomas Knight no age given. That was all i found on the E/Meon site for the early dates. As to my Gr/daughter these are the things she wants to achieve, travel goes with her strong points of education she speaks four languages i cannot say i have more than english apart from trying to learn German. I wish her well in her career lets hope she is as independent as me. I have docs again to-morrow for more results, i seem to be in pains from the joints i do have osteo Arthritis it was found when i was 39yrs but it has never been so bad as at the moment, i try not to sit too long at the computer at the moment but i get carried away, i have just found two members of my paternal family who came from Dorset, and one has a lot of info so i am trying to correspond with her quite a bit. They were two names i had not had a lot of luck with in dorchester, but i hope at the beginning of next month to have some more fiche to see what i can find for you. Wishing you well Regards Anne

Hi Chris & Caroline, I believe you were referring to my request for information on William Jerimiah Christmas and family. My search was focused in the East Meon, Hampshire area, but I was having little luck locating family members. I will certainly take a look at the Surrey villages for any new clues. Thank you for the new information. Loni Marcotte Vancouver USA -----Original Message----- From: Chris & Caroline [mailto:chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 4:31 AM To: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HantsLife] CHRISTMAS (the name not the occassion!) A little while ago someone was asking about the name CHRISTMAS. While transcribing the Surrey villages we came upon a place called Christmas Pie!! This it seems was named after a farm caled Christmas Farm or a farmer called Christmas. Apparently this is a common West Surrey name so it may pay to check records in Surrey! Just a piece of trivia that may help!! Wonder if he had a daughter called Mary? Chris and Caroline --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003 ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== This is YOUR list so please treat it the way you wish yourself treated. Remember: "FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION" It comes bundled with the software! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

We would like to extend our prayers and condolences to all the families and friends of the Astronauts who have failed to return to earth today. Some of you might not be aware but the Space Shuttle Columbia is missing and the worst is feared as it was last seen over Texas travelling at over 12,000 mph with pieces breaking off. A tragic loss to a brave bunch of people Chris and Caroline --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003

Hi Linda, There was a James Trimmer, an Agr Lab, who in 1874 married a Mary Wigley, who was born in 1839 inWhitney. In 1876 they had a daughter Charlotte, born in Rotherwick. Does this help or is it old news? David ---- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Callow" <lindacallow@hotmail.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 4:58 AM Subject: [HantsLife] James TRIMMER > Seeking information on James TRIMMER b.approx 1843 Odiham Hants. Any > assistance appreciated. > Thank you > Linda > > _________________________________________________________________ > Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends > http://messenger.msn.co.uk > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > Please use common sense when sending or replying to messages on the list. What may not offend you may offend others. Please do not send virus warnings, or other matetial not relevant to Hampshire and its history. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Chris, et al, Thank you for your thoughts. My wife covered the Challenger explosion 17 years ago, and unfortunately has been called again into service for the television networks. With her I was fortunate enough to meet several of the astronauts - I consider them to be the American heroes of current day. They are wonderful people, and courageous. I had stepped out my door to watch here in the Dallas area, as the shuttle passed over. As I watched, the breakup of the craft began...it was horrifying. All I can think is, God Bless each of the astronauts for their bravery. Charles Hampshire Celina, TX USA

Hi Listers, On my g/mothers birth certificate, the place of birth is Fareham Common, Fareham. Where was/is this.She was born in March 1873. Regards Bazzer Portchester Fareham --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13-11-02

Seeking information on James TRIMMER b.approx 1843 Odiham Hants. Any assistance appreciated. Thank you Linda _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk

----- Original Message ----- From: David Parker To: Bazzer: ENG-HAM- PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:59 AM Subject: Hampshire Treasures Volume 10 ( Fareham), Page 63 I have seen Wickham Rd referred to as Fareham Common. But try this site, David http://www.sswhha.org.uk/hampshiretreasures/vol10/page063.html

"The story of Aldershot" by Howard Cole states that it was named after the Chrismas family who farmed Park Farm, Aldershot for three generations. Sidney Chrismas J.P. was Mayor of Aldershot in 1968/69. I remember him presenting prizes at my school in Farnborough some years earlier. Alan McGowan Aldershot, Hampshire Hampshire Family History Site http://website.lineone.net/~hantshistory ----- Original Message ----- From: <FamilyResearchUK@aol.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [HantsLife] CHRISTMAS (the name not the occasion!) When I was a teenager, I lived in CHRISMAS Avenue (without the 'T') in Aldershot. I believe it was named after a local landowner. Joy

Subject: Re: [HantsLife] Ann CUTLER circa 1750 Christchurch, Hampshire > Susan, > I thought I had more 'CUTLER' references in the directory extracts here, but > these are what I found:- > In 1859, at Christchurch there are separate entries for Harry CUTLER and > Mary CUTLER -- both listed as fishmongers. In the same directory, the > Bournemouth section includes George CUTLER, also a fishmonger. > > For the 1849 directory, I only have a copy here of the Bournemouth page ( > with no CUTLER listed) - will see if I can copy the Christchurch page when > next I am at that record office. > > My own notes on CUTLER family members of interest to me are as follows :- > > Emma (m. Joseph CUTLER) was born in the Lymington area in about 1831. > > Emma (m. George CUTLER) was born as Emma HAYWARD, daughter of Spencer and > Elizabeth HAYWARD in 1822, in Lambeth.. The parents were married in 1818 > > Emma CUTLER (daughter of George and Emma CUTLER) was born in 1859 in > Bournemouth, and became Emma BEALE when she married. > > George CUTLER, was born in the Christchurch registration district in 1820, > and became a fishmonger, trading from 7 Commercial Road, Bournemouth by > 1859. He also was a pleasure boat and cab proprietor and had a double chair > licensed to him in the late 1870s. His address when he died in 1886 is 3 > Primrose Cottages, Holdenhurst Road, Bournemouth. His nephew, Thomas > ELLIOTT, is of particular interest to me !! > > Jesse Preston CUTLER was a fishmonger at 7 Commercial Road, Bournemouth, but > did not continue the business there for long, if at all, after his father's > (ie George above) death. > > Joseph CUTLER, was born in the Christchurch registration district in 1829, > and was the younger brother of George CUTLER. He was a builder, trading from > 105 Old Christchurch Road, but following retirement, lived 1891 - 1895 at 1 > Wolsey Villas, Tregonwell Road, Bournemouth. He appears to be the same > Joseph CUTLER who was a Bournemouth Improvement Commissioner, later a town > councillor, and made an Alderman in 1898, and served for a period on the > Horse and Hackney Carriage Committee. > > Joseph CUTLER (son of George) was a solicitor's clerk, living in 1886 at 37 > Drakefell Road, Nunhead, Surrey. > > Martha CUTLER was born in Islington in 1863, daughter of Joseph (ie one born > 1829) and Emma CUTLER > > Mary Ann CUTLER was born at Christchurch in 1853, and became Mary Ann > GRIFFITH > > > These are all a little after the dates you mention, but as I search the > records, I will keep in mind the other 'CUTLER's that may 'connect' to > yours. > > Peter >

Hi Chris, There is also a Christmas Common just off the A40 in Oxfordshire, and the name as a surname and a middle name is also common in Norfolk. I have a couple on my DACK tree. From my research I have found that some of the CHRISMAS/CHRISTMAS families belonged to the Non-conformist churches, so searaching there might prove useful. Vicki

When I was a teenager, I lived in CHRISMAS Avenue (without the 'T') in Aldershot. I believe it was named after a local landowner. Joy

Graham, You were kind enough to send me this information last year. You probably forgot. Elizabeth GAILER (Gayler) is my gx3 grandmother. She married George HINTON. Martha GAWLER married James HINTON who was the brother of George. I think that they are the forefathers of the HINTON name in and around Christchurch after 1800. There were HINTONs in Christchurch before 1800 but I don't know if there is any connection to them. George and James HINTON came from Wilton, Wiltshire and settled in Christchurch. George was a tailor and James was a carpenter. Joseph HINTON, son of James, married Ann BURRY and many of their children married and stayed around. I am trying to go in the other direction and find out more about Ann CUTLER and her family pre 1775 in Christchurch. I have lots of information on the HINTONs and Ann CUTLER is proving to be one of my brick walls. I don't know whether anyone has tried this site for a name count: http://www.taliesin-arlein.net/names/search.php This is what turns up. GAWLER=378 GAILER= 84 GAYLER= 539 HINTON=7218 CUTLER=7032 There aren't too many GAWLER/GAILER/GAYLER names around today. On the other hand, the number one ranking SMITH has 652563 occurrences. Best Wishes, Susan in Guelph ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gledbrook@aol.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [HantsLife] Ann CUTLER circa 1750 Christchurch, Hampshire | In a message dated 29/01/03 04:27:57 GMT Standard Time, smoziar@rogers.com | writes: | | | > Hi, | > | > I just checked the IGI and found a record for the marriage of Ann CUTLER to | > Peter GAWLER in 1777 in Christchurch, Hampshire. There is a new format now | > and the birth for Ann CUTLER was given as "About 1750 Christchurch, | > Hampshire, England". It went on to say that this had been submitted by | > someone in the LDS Church. | > | > I have not seen this IGI entry previously and I have looked lots of time. | > I'm just wondering why an exact date for Anne's birth is not given. This | > is | > the person I am interested in. | > | > Can anyone advise? | > | > Thanks | > | > Susan in Guelph | > | | I have 3 books of about 110 pages each on the Gawler Family. Peter Gawler | married Ann Cutler 17th October 1777, witnesses to the marriage were William | Sherwood and Samuel ? | Peter died 1798 | There were 8 children of the marriage | Phillip 1779 | Peter 1780 1787 Buried Bramshaw | Mary Ann 1782 | Elizabeth 1784 * married George Hinton - 3rd great grandmother of Susan | Sarah 1786 | William 1789 | John 1791 | Martha 1794 * married James Hinton - 3rd great grand aunt of Susan | | The christening records variously used the family names of Gayler, Gailer, | Gauler, Gailer and Gauler for the final 4 | | Graham Ledbrook (wife Joy nee Gawler)

A little while ago someone was asking about the name CHRISTMAS. While transcribing the Surrey villages we came upon a place called Christmas Pie!! This it seems was named after a farm caled Christmas Farm or a farmer called Christmas. Apparently this is a common West Surrey name so it may pay to check records in Surrey! Just a piece of trivia that may help!! Wonder if he had a daughter called Mary? Chris and Caroline --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003

In a message dated 29/01/03 04:27:57 GMT Standard Time, smoziar@rogers.com writes: > Hi, > > I just checked the IGI and found a record for the marriage of Ann CUTLER to > Peter GAWLER in 1777 in Christchurch, Hampshire. There is a new format now > and the birth for Ann CUTLER was given as "About 1750 Christchurch, > Hampshire, England". It went on to say that this had been submitted by > someone in the LDS Church. > > I have not seen this IGI entry previously and I have looked lots of time. > I'm just wondering why an exact date for Anne's birth is not given. This > is > the person I am interested in. > > Can anyone advise? > > Thanks > > Susan in Guelph > I have 3 books of about 110 pages each on the Gawler Family. Peter Gawler married Ann Cutler 17th October 1777, witnesses to the marriage were William Sherwood and Samuel ? Peter died 1798 There were 8 children of the marriage Phillip 1779 Peter 1780 1787 Buried Bramshaw Mary Ann 1782 Elizabeth 1784 Sarah 1786 William 1789 John 1791 Martha 1794 The christening records variously used the family names of Gayler, Gailer, Gauler, Gailer and Gauler for the final 4 Graham Ledbrook (wife Joy nee Gawler)