Colin, I sent an email to your addy as it appears here, colinwhitleock@ns.sympatico.ca but it bounced. I have some information you might like, can you please email me off list. Pat in Oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Whitleock" <colinwhitleock@ns.sympatico.ca> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 5:20 AM Subject: [HantsLife] Whitelock > I have been at a dead end with my grandfather and trying to trace him back to his parents. > Every where I go I come up with a blank. I have been at this for almost 5 years now. > I have the following information > His name was GEORGE CHAR:LES WHITELOCK or at sometime the Christian names could have been reversed. > A have Royal Navy Discharge documents that say he was born in Bexhill-On-Sea on the 14 February1885 plus RAF discharge documents that say the same. I also have a certificate of wounds putting at age 34 in 1919. I also have a copy of his passport with the birth Bexhill-On-Sea February 1885. A copy of the death certificate which puts him in 1885. I have an extract from the family bible that agrees with the above. The marriage certificate age of 24 put him 1885. > The one animally is a discharge from the Merchant Marine saying that he was born in Brighton in 1887 > I know he married Louise Heather Overington at Christ Church East Croydon on the 25 February 1909, he is listed than as living in the Royal Naval Barracks Portsmouth > They had the following children : ALICE CAROLINE WHITELOCK (September 1918-June 1926,) AUBREY WHITELOCK (9 June 1927-22 April 1986), CHARLES REGINALD WHITELOCK (23 February 1912- 23 June 1985), EDITH WHITELOCK (20 January 1910- 16 January 1911), EDITH WHITELOCK (11 March 1929- 12 June 2000), KENNETH WHITELOCK ( June 1927-April 1984) LILLIAN HEATHER WHITELOCK ( 21 March 1920) (Unknown if she is deceased immigrated to Australia). LIONEL CHARLES WHITELOCK (21 May 1922(( Deceased date unknown died after immigrating to South Africa), LOUIS ARTHUR WHITELOCK ( 23 November 1913) Deceased date unknown died after immigrating to South Africa and VICTORY GEORGE WHITELOCK 21 April 1916 - 15 January 1994.All were born in Portsmouth and lived in 55 Trafalgar Street. I don't know how many children went to Hayling Island after they were bombed out but certainly the youngest EDITH. > I know from a golden wedding new paper cutting the GEORGE CHARLES had a 1/2 brother REGINALD SPRAY. I have a small picture of his mother no name on it. I have no idea where they lived I also have reason to believe he had two half Sisters Florence and Kate they may have immigrated to Canada as the photographs I have of them were taken in Toronto. > There seems to be no trace of a Whitelock family in that area. I cant find a his name on the 1902 census. Some one did dig up a Whitelock family living in Hastings at the time. > At the date of enlistment in The Royal Navy hi was listed has living at 48 Hadds Street Greenwich and was an errand boy. > > Can any one point in the right direction to look please? > Colin Whitelock > Milford Station > Nova Scotia > Canada > > ______________________________

Found this on another list - may be a load of rubbish! History Buffs interesting facts: The next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water temperature isn't just how you like it, think about how things used to be. Here are some facts about the 1500s: * * * * * * Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May and still smelled pretty good by June. However, they were starting to smell so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odour. Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married. * * * * * * Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children-last of all the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water." * * * * * * Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the dogs, cats and other small animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Hence the saying "It's raining cats and dogs." * * * * * * There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could really mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into existence. * * * * * * The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the saying "dirt poor." * * * * * * The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on the floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they kept adding more thresh until when you opened the door it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entranceway. Hence the saying a "thresh hold." * * * * * * In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes the stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence the rhyme, "Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old." * * * * * * Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man "could bring home the bacon. "They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and "chew the fat." * * * * * * Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning and death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous. * * * * * * Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or "upper crust." * * * * * * Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would sometimes knock them out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. Hence the custom of holding a "wake." * * * * * * England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a "bone-house" and reuse the grave. When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realised they had been burying people alive. So they thought they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the "graveyard shift") to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be "saved by the bell" or was considered a "dead ringer." * * * * * * Now, whoever said that History was boring ! ! ! ! !

Not on line yet but we have alphabetically indexed baptisms 1738 to 1749 inclusive (these are NOT on the IGI where records do not start until 1750). Available for look ups if required. Hope they help Linda & Tony

Many thanks for the card, Renate, which arrived today, I do not have your email address for some reason so could you please contact us. Chris --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.456 / Virus Database: 256 - Release Date: 18/02/2003

Those wishing to trace their forefathers who worked on the railways may find this website helpful http://www.railwayancestors.fsnet.co.uk Beware this is not a free service though If you use the link below it will take you to names beginning with the letter A http://www.railwayancestors.fsnet.co.uk/ra-a.html Change the letter 'a' after ra-a to whatever surname you are after and it will take you to the list so if you are after JONES change /ra-a.html to /ra-j.html Chris and Caroline --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.456 / Virus Database: 256 - Release Date: 19/02/2003

Fantastic! Great work, you two! Thanx! Suzy in TX...... ~ What we do in life echoes in eternity ~ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Knightroots@aol.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 4:08 PM Subject: [HantsLife] Knightroots full search facility Hello all just to let you know that we now have installed a full search engine on our site. Go to www.knightsure.co.uk/knightroots/genealogy to search for an ancestor, parish or place. We are sure that will prove useful in view of the many thousands of transcriptions already on the site. Take care,Linda & Tony

How true!! I was an enumerator in the last but one census 20 years ago and during the obligatory training it became evident from the very silly questions being asked and the blank looks on the faces of some of my fellows, that mistakes would be made!! Moya Page (nee Banting) researching BANTING and PERREN in Hampshire ----- Original Message ----- From: Pmc248@cs.com To: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:13 PM Subject: [HantsLife] A little Off-topic !! Hello All, After much frustration and hair-pulling, not to mention a few choice words, I have decide that the qualifications for the position of Census Taker were :- The applicant must be half-blind and deaf, and unable to spell or write in a ledgible manner. If you have all the above qualifications you are in !!! Being stupid wouldn't hurt either, LOL !!! Cheers, Pam, an Aldershot, Hants. gal in Arizona. Always looking for RENNEY, in the N.E. and ROGERS in Hampshire. ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== Please use common sense when sending or replying to messages on the list. What may not offend you may offend others. Please do not send virus warnings, or other matetial not relevant to Hampshire and its history. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Ditto, Ditto from us Aussies. ----- Original Message ----- From: "clargo" <clargo@tinyworld.co.uk> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:23 PM Subject: [HantsLife] Welcome Back > Hello Chris and Everybody, > > Welcome back Chris, We are all so pleased you are on the road to full > recovery, and as has been said previously, listen to the good advice of her > who has to be obeyed and don't overdo things. > > Rod in Andover. > > ______________________________

Hello All, After much frustration and hair-pulling, not to mention a few choice words, I have decide that the qualifications for the position of Census Taker were :- The applicant must be half-blind and deaf, and unable to spell or write in a ledgible manner. If you have all the above qualifications you are in !!! Being stupid wouldn't hurt either, LOL !!! Cheers, Pam, an Aldershot, Hants. gal in Arizona. Always looking for RENNEY, in the N.E. and ROGERS in Hampshire.

Hello all just to let you know that we now have installed a full search engine on our site. Go to www.knightsure.co.uk/knightroots/genealogy to search for an ancestor, parish or place. We are sure that will prove useful in view of the many thousands of transcriptions already on the site. Take care,Linda & Tony

I have been at a dead end with my grandfather and trying to trace him back to his parents. Every where I go I come up with a blank. I have been at this for almost 5 years now. I have the following information His name was GEORGE CHAR:LES WHITELOCK or at sometime the Christian names could have been reversed. A have Royal Navy Discharge documents that say he was born in Bexhill-On-Sea on the 14 February1885 plus RAF discharge documents that say the same. I also have a certificate of wounds putting at age 34 in 1919. I also have a copy of his passport with the birth Bexhill-On-Sea February 1885. A copy of the death certificate which puts him in 1885. I have an extract from the family bible that agrees with the above. The marriage certificate age of 24 put him 1885. The one animally is a discharge from the Merchant Marine saying that he was born in Brighton in 1887 I know he married Louise Heather Overington at Christ Church East Croydon on the 25 February 1909, he is listed than as living in the Royal Naval Barracks Portsmouth They had the following children : ALICE CAROLINE WHITELOCK (September 1918-June 1926,) AUBREY WHITELOCK (9 June 1927-22 April 1986), CHARLES REGINALD WHITELOCK (23 February 1912- 23 June 1985), EDITH WHITELOCK (20 January 1910- 16 January 1911), EDITH WHITELOCK (11 March 1929- 12 June 2000), KENNETH WHITELOCK ( June 1927-April 1984) LILLIAN HEATHER WHITELOCK ( 21 March 1920) (Unknown if she is deceased immigrated to Australia). LIONEL CHARLES WHITELOCK (21 May 1922(( Deceased date unknown died after immigrating to South Africa), LOUIS ARTHUR WHITELOCK ( 23 November 1913) Deceased date unknown died after immigrating to South Africa and VICTORY GEORGE WHITELOCK 21 April 1916 - 15 January 1994.All were born in Portsmouth and lived in 55 Trafalgar Street. I don't know how many children went to Hayling Island after they were bombed out but certainly the youngest EDITH. I know from a golden wedding new paper cutting the GEORGE CHARLES had a 1/2 brother REGINALD SPRAY. I have a small picture of his mother no name on it. I have no idea where they lived I also have reason to believe he had two half Sisters Florence and Kate they may have immigrated to Canada as the photographs I have of them were taken in Toronto. There seems to be no trace of a Whitelock family in that area. I cant find a his name on the 1902 census. Some one did dig up a Whitelock family living in Hastings at the time. At the date of enlistment in The Royal Navy hi was listed has living at 48 Hadds Street Greenwich and was an errand boy. Can any one point in the right direction to look please? Colin Whitelock Milford Station Nova Scotia Canada

Message From: "Chris & Caroline" Just a short note (Orders of her who must be obeyed!!) ............. ______________________________ Oh, you mean every woman on the Hampshire Life List, I presume. ;-)))

Hi Chris We are happy that everything is now ok with you and you will be back in harness soon. Take it easy. Kindest Regards Maureen & Brian Hobbs Brisbane Aust.

If anybody can help with further information on the above we know somebody who will be thrilled to gain anything!!! They have a website in which he features www.thewaterside.org/150yearsHenryCook.htm Please reply directly to Samatha at sam@thewaterside.org Chris and Caroline --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.456 / Virus Database: 256 - Release Date: 18/02/2003

Are any of you lovely people able to tell me who lived at 1 Kingsfield Street, Southampton at the 1861 census? Glad to hear Chris is doing well. Keep up the bulletins, please. Dorothy M Whakatane, NZ http://mobile.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Mobile - Exchange IMs with Messenger friends on your Telstra or Vodafone mobile phone.

Hello Chris and Everybody, Welcome back Chris, We are all so pleased you are on the road to full recovery, and as has been said previously, listen to the good advice of her who has to be obeyed and don't overdo things. Rod in Andover.

Hi all, I have just visited this site as a result of a recommendation from another list. If you think that any of your "naughty" ancestors were tried at the Old Bailey, then for the years, December 1714 to December 1759, you will find details and court transcriptions of 22,000 trials online. Great site. http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/search/ Vicki Turner

Message From: "marp" Sounds to me like Caroline is the one who needs all the sympathy!!! Moya ______________________________ Yes, Moya, of course you're right. Caroline deserves our sympathy 24/7 (permanently!) He'll be even worse when fully recovered as the dear old scallywag will have to make up for lost time....... ..... (& Caroline hates it when he borrows her lipstick!) ;-))) Message courtesy of Giggles from Down-Under.

Just a short note (Orders of her who must be obeyed!!) to say that I was overwhelmed by the number of emails (63) and cards that have been sent wishing me a speedy recovery. Most people seemed to remember that we are cat lovers and sent cards with little furry cats on them, except a certain rival list administrator who sent me one with a badge on saying............. "BE NICE TO ME, I'M POORLY"!!! Wonder who that was? But a special thank you to a special friend, Moya, who I have known for nearly 53 years, she has phoned on numerous occassions and has passed on messages to me and with her humour and the support of you all " I will be back"!! Another special thank you to Beverley Wadhams, Lynda Ahmed, Tony and Linda, Len and Marie Strong and Chris Gibbons, for the cards that you sent. Once again many thanks everybody your support and best wishes are a great help, I will not be back on the list so much but if I can help out I will so keep it clean, keep it running and above all keep it the friendliest list on Rootsweb. God bless you all Chris --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.456 / Virus Database: 256 - Release Date: 18/02/2003

I am so glad Chris & Caroline are both doing well.....I have enjoyed all the sweet and humorous posts re Chris's illness....this is a great list...and, fun group, too! Suzy in TX