Guess us Colonials cant be so bad after all! Wide open spaces out here, a land of only about 4 millions humans!! Why live in the old country when you can spread your wings out here! Cost of living cheaper... houses especially... I have an old colonial cottage built 1882. just being restored... bought for about $80.000. eleven years ago, when we moved up from Wellington.(Capital) now living in rural area.. Not near Happy Valley where Maureen is, over the Rimutaka's in the Wairarapa...best place to be! To think the family home in London, had we still owned it, would be worth over 1 million pounds. Had my pen friend over here the other year from Purley, we took her for a drive to Martinborough, she spent most of the time looking behind, then I said what are you looking at.. she said, no other cars on the roads, I said this is New Zealand its always like this! Now in England. where can you drive and not have another car behind you or in front!! In your dreams !! New Zealanders are generally a helpful, cheerful bunch...and chatty... We have hot hot summers, and cold cold winters...but love it. love the lifestyle.. so bye bye for now, raining for the first time in months. not mowed lawns for about 3 months!!! I have an acre of land as well, orchard. goats. hens. cat. and dogs!! We had Hot Air Balloons last week.. lovely to watch over the cottage... adele in Clareville

Here in the UK, it seems as far as genealogy is concerned, not to make a great deal of difference as the information gathered is not 'published' - that is, not offered freely for sale on the open market for profit. The passing of basic data from one person to another under the heading of personal research is permitted. Companies and large organisations that use personal information for business purposes are required to be licensed because they 'publish'; indeed some profit entirely by the selling of this material. I understand that all the Local History Societies have been told they do not need to be licensed so long as all the information they gather is held on a maximum of two computers and is again, not 'published'. I have also checked with three different Archive/Record Offices and not one considers this to be a problem or an issue. Whether the law dictates or not, I would like to think we are all sensitive enough to consider asking permission of the living before passing basic details about them to third parties, but even so, it is worth considering that there is likely to be far more sensitive information held about us all on computer somewhere, than the average genealogist would be able to gather in their researches!! Technically, if you take a photograph of any High Street anywhere in the UK you are legally not permitted to 'publish' that photo without first asking permission of everyone within shot - realistically this does not happen and as far as is known, no prosecution has ever been brought. I am told that here in the UK you are still permitted to buy copies of BMD certificates for anyone living or dead. It is for this reason that it is no longer possible to apply for a driving license or passport on production of a birth certificate as was so graphically illustrated in the film "Day of the Jackal" !!!! Of course if anyone knows anything different........................... Moya ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris & Caroline To: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 11:15 PM Subject: Re: [HantsLife] Aaustralian subscribers/change in law Not 100% sure but this is the same in the UK as it comes under the Data Protection Act But I expect someone out there will be able to clarify the matter Chris and Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Avenue Emus" <ave_emus@seol.net.au> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [HantsLife] Aaustralian subscribers/change in law Hi Moya and list, Just to confirm, as you suggested, that this is not a hoax, and the privacy laws have changed. I do not know exactly how it effects genealogists, but I do know that I will be very careful what I publish, or even pass on to other researchers, without first getting legal advise. With regards to BDM certificates, as far as I know, there is a cut off period for obtaining certificates in most states without identification, eg 70 years for some. After that you need to provide ID, and in some cases, prove that you are related. Doesn't stop you researching, but does make you stop and think before publishing. Cheers Julie in Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "marp" <marp@ntlworld.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [HantsLife] Aaustralian subscribers/change in law > Presumably this means you are not permitted copies of any Australian birth, marriage or death certificates or any Parish records more recently that the 1880's just in case the person in question is still alive!!! > > This sounds identical to the Canadian Genealogy List Hoax that I understand was doing the rounds about 4 years age - I might be wrong, but perhaps someone in Australia in the know could confirm or deny this for us!! > > Moya Page (nee Banting) > researching BANTING and PERREN in Hampshire > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: historyresearch > To: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 12:23 PM > Subject: [HantsLife] Aaustralian subscribers/change in law > > > Hello Hampshire Listers, > > I have been given permission to copy this from a Surrey Rootsweb contributer > to this list. > > Hi, all > > I've recently returned from my local Genealogy society meeting where it > was announced that it is now illegal under Australian Federal Privacy > legislation to publish any personal information for any living person, > unless you have their specific written permission. > > If you are in Australia, please make sure that you supress all > information on living people if you post your tree anywhere. > > I don't know whether you are even allowed to publish names - better > not, just to be on the safe side. > > Regards > > Tony Rolfe - BURRILL LAKE, Australia > Researching: > ROLFE (ROLPH), BIRD, EDWARDS, HILLIARD (HILYARD), ROYCE > and > RUSSELL in Essex and Surrey > STEAD, DRABBLE, CADMAN, HEADLEY in Yorkshire and Derbyshire > CAREY in Manchester and Ireland > > The contributer has also told me: > > "I've e-mailed the Privacy Commissioner asking for clarification on a few > points. (Can we publish names, how old must someone be before we > can assume they are dead, can we publish full details under password > protection and how does this apply to my site which is on a computer > physically located in the USA and most of the living people are in > England?)" > > Yours > Vicki Turner > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > Visit Where your ancestors lived..... > SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages > AND VI > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > Visit Where your ancestors lived..... > SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages > AND VI > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== Visit Where your ancestors lived..... SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages AND VI ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 25/03/2003 ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== Chris and Caroline Hayles, Eastleigh, Hampshire List Administrators: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com Home of SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages EMAIL: chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk FAMILY WEBSITE: http://www.chayles.freeserve.co.uk Over 1,600 villages in HAMPSHIRE, BERKSHIRE, DORSET ISLE OF WIGHT, SURREY, WEST SUSSEX,and WILTSHIRE village history,parish church history, village photographs, and other useful information for genealogy. Lots of links to other useful sites ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Here in the UK, it seems as far as genealogy is concerned, not to make a great deal of difference as the information gathered is not 'published' - that is, not offered freely for sale on the open market for profit. The passing of basic data from one person to another under the heading of personal research is permitted. Companies and large organisations that use personal information for business purposes are required to be licensed because they 'publish'; indeed some profit entirely by the selling of this material. I understand that all the Local History Societies have been told they do not need to be licensed so long as all the information they gather is held on a maximum of two computers and is again, not 'published'. I have also checked with three different Archive/Record Offices and not one considers this to be a problem or an issue. Whether the law dictates or not, I would like to think we are all sensitive enough to consider asking permission of the living before passing basic details about them to third parties, but even so, it is worth considering that there is likely to be far more sensitive information held about us all on computer somewhere, than the average genealogist would be able to gather in their researches!! Technically, if you take a photograph of any High Street anywhere in the UK you are legally not permitted to 'publish' that photo without first asking permission of everyone within shot - realistically this does not happen and as far as is known, no prosecution has ever been brought. I am told that here in the UK you are still permitted to buy copies of BMD certificates for anyone living or dead. It is for this reason that it is no longer possible to apply for a driving license or passport on production of a birth certificate as was so graphically illustrated in the film "Day of the Jackal" !!!! Of course if anyone knows anything different........................... Moya ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris & Caroline To: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 11:15 PM Subject: Re: [HantsLife] Aaustralian subscribers/change in law Not 100% sure but this is the same in the UK as it comes under the Data Protection Act But I expect someone out there will be able to clarify the matter Chris and Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Avenue Emus" <ave_emus@seol.net.au> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [HantsLife] Aaustralian subscribers/change in law Hi Moya and list, Just to confirm, as you suggested, that this is not a hoax, and the privacy laws have changed. I do not know exactly how it effects genealogists, but I do know that I will be very careful what I publish, or even pass on to other researchers, without first getting legal advise. With regards to BDM certificates, as far as I know, there is a cut off period for obtaining certificates in most states without identification, eg 70 years for some. After that you need to provide ID, and in some cases, prove that you are related. Doesn't stop you researching, but does make you stop and think before publishing. Cheers Julie in Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "marp" <marp@ntlworld.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [HantsLife] Aaustralian subscribers/change in law > Presumably this means you are not permitted copies of any Australian birth, marriage or death certificates or any Parish records more recently that the 1880's just in case the person in question is still alive!!! > > This sounds identical to the Canadian Genealogy List Hoax that I understand was doing the rounds about 4 years age - I might be wrong, but perhaps someone in Australia in the know could confirm or deny this for us!! > > Moya Page (nee Banting) > researching BANTING and PERREN in Hampshire > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: historyresearch > To: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 12:23 PM > Subject: [HantsLife] Aaustralian subscribers/change in law > > > Hello Hampshire Listers, > > I have been given permission to copy this from a Surrey Rootsweb contributer > to this list. > > Hi, all > > I've recently returned from my local Genealogy society meeting where it > was announced that it is now illegal under Australian Federal Privacy > legislation to publish any personal information for any living person, > unless you have their specific written permission. > > If you are in Australia, please make sure that you supress all > information on living people if you post your tree anywhere. > > I don't know whether you are even allowed to publish names - better > not, just to be on the safe side. > > Regards > > Tony Rolfe - BURRILL LAKE, Australia > Researching: > ROLFE (ROLPH), BIRD, EDWARDS, HILLIARD (HILYARD), ROYCE > and > RUSSELL in Essex and Surrey > STEAD, DRABBLE, CADMAN, HEADLEY in Yorkshire and Derbyshire > CAREY in Manchester and Ireland > > The contributer has also told me: > > "I've e-mailed the Privacy Commissioner asking for clarification on a few > points. (Can we publish names, how old must someone be before we > can assume they are dead, can we publish full details under password > protection and how does this apply to my site which is on a computer > physically located in the USA and most of the living people are in > England?)" > > Yours > Vicki Turner > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > Visit Where your ancestors lived..... > SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages > AND VI > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > Visit Where your ancestors lived..... > SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages > AND VI > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== Visit Where your ancestors lived..... SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages AND VI ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 25/03/2003 ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== Chris and Caroline Hayles, Eastleigh, Hampshire List Administrators: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com Home of SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages EMAIL: chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk FAMILY WEBSITE: http://www.chayles.freeserve.co.uk Over 1,600 villages in HAMPSHIRE, BERKSHIRE, DORSET ISLE OF WIGHT, SURREY, WEST SUSSEX,and WILTSHIRE village history,parish church history, village photographs, and other useful information for genealogy. Lots of links to other useful sites ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Good job it said Smelt Fleet and Not Feet Smelt Vic!! Ha! ha! Chris and Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vic Wise" <vwise@gil.com.au> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:04 AM Subject: [HantsLife] A question about Fleet Hi Listers I have just received a photo from a newly discovered American cousin. At the bottom it says "Photo by Smelt Fleet" Thomas Smelt died in Fleet in 1914 and in 1881 he was resident in Basingstoke. I believe the photo to have been taken about 1867 but was Mr Smelt snapping away in Fleet at that time.? I have tried Percy Vickery but he couldn't help. Can anyone else please ? Vic Wise Brisbane Australia vwise@gil.com.au ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== This is YOUR list so please treat it the way you wish yourself treated. Remember: "FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION" It comes bundled with the software! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 25/03/2003

Not 100% sure but this is the same in the UK as it comes under the Data Protection Act But I expect someone out there will be able to clarify the matter Chris and Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Avenue Emus" <ave_emus@seol.net.au> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [HantsLife] Aaustralian subscribers/change in law Hi Moya and list, Just to confirm, as you suggested, that this is not a hoax, and the privacy laws have changed. I do not know exactly how it effects genealogists, but I do know that I will be very careful what I publish, or even pass on to other researchers, without first getting legal advise. With regards to BDM certificates, as far as I know, there is a cut off period for obtaining certificates in most states without identification, eg 70 years for some. After that you need to provide ID, and in some cases, prove that you are related. Doesn't stop you researching, but does make you stop and think before publishing. Cheers Julie in Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "marp" <marp@ntlworld.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [HantsLife] Aaustralian subscribers/change in law > Presumably this means you are not permitted copies of any Australian birth, marriage or death certificates or any Parish records more recently that the 1880's just in case the person in question is still alive!!! > > This sounds identical to the Canadian Genealogy List Hoax that I understand was doing the rounds about 4 years age - I might be wrong, but perhaps someone in Australia in the know could confirm or deny this for us!! > > Moya Page (nee Banting) > researching BANTING and PERREN in Hampshire > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: historyresearch > To: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 12:23 PM > Subject: [HantsLife] Aaustralian subscribers/change in law > > > Hello Hampshire Listers, > > I have been given permission to copy this from a Surrey Rootsweb contributer > to this list. > > Hi, all > > I've recently returned from my local Genealogy society meeting where it > was announced that it is now illegal under Australian Federal Privacy > legislation to publish any personal information for any living person, > unless you have their specific written permission. > > If you are in Australia, please make sure that you supress all > information on living people if you post your tree anywhere. > > I don't know whether you are even allowed to publish names - better > not, just to be on the safe side. > > Regards > > Tony Rolfe - BURRILL LAKE, Australia > Researching: > ROLFE (ROLPH), BIRD, EDWARDS, HILLIARD (HILYARD), ROYCE > and > RUSSELL in Essex and Surrey > STEAD, DRABBLE, CADMAN, HEADLEY in Yorkshire and Derbyshire > CAREY in Manchester and Ireland > > The contributer has also told me: > > "I've e-mailed the Privacy Commissioner asking for clarification on a few > points. (Can we publish names, how old must someone be before we > can assume they are dead, can we publish full details under password > protection and how does this apply to my site which is on a computer > physically located in the USA and most of the living people are in > England?)" > > Yours > Vicki Turner > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > Visit Where your ancestors lived..... > SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages > AND VI > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > Visit Where your ancestors lived..... > SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages > AND VI > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== Visit Where your ancestors lived..... SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages AND VI ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 25/03/2003

Before everyone has pink kittens, Lets find out first, I think its a bit of bull anyway. All the societies would have posted this sort of info to each other. No one knows. I think Moya is right thinking this could be a hoax. Let us wait for Seamus to find out as stated. Cheers Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Waldemar Lotocki" <lotocki@ozemail.com.au> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:00 PM Subject: RE: [HantsLife] Australian Subscribers/change in law Hi, How do the lists of BDM's fit into this new law? Will all the info now available be removed? Annie ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== This is YOUR list so please treat it the way you wish yourself treated. Remember: "FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION" It comes bundled with the software! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi, How do the lists of BDM's fit into this new law? Will all the info now available be removed? Annie

Have any of you that this could be an early April fool. Sharon.U.K. -----Original Message----- From: Waldemar Lotocki [mailto:lotocki@ozemail.com.au] Sent: 31 March 2003 14:00 To: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [HantsLife] Australian Subscribers/change in law Hi, How do the lists of BDM's fit into this new law? Will all the info now available be removed? Annie ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== This is YOUR list so please treat it the way you wish yourself treated. Remember: "FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION" It comes bundled with the software! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Moya. A beautiful country that needs re-populating. Larger than UK, & has about 3 million population. That's because most Kiwis live in OZ. Seamus: (Tout á fait Chevalier) All mail scanned by Norton AV 2002 ----- Original Message ----- From: "marp" <marp@ntlworld.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [HantsLife] TO ALL OUR NZ FRIENDS Your views were confirmed Chris by a double-page spread in the Sunday Times yesterday entitled " Brits Warm to Kiwi Good Life " and sub-headlined: " Families and second-home buyers are finding their dream homes in New Zealand, where lower prices and spacious properties with breathtaking views all give great value for money" It certainly looks pretty good, so when I win the lottery I might move next door to Maureen and Derek - so be warned!!! Moya Page (nee Banting) researching BANTING and PERREN in Hampshire ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris & Caroline To: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:17 AM Subject: [HantsLife] TO ALL OUR NZ FRIENDS To all those that tried to help locating Jeff Saunders in NZ we thank you all for your efforts and glad to say the NZ Herald has come up trumps!! Thanks to one subscriber for spotting a letter from him in Saturdays issue. What a great bunch of people you all are!! NZ should be proud of you.....we are!! Chris and Caroline --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 25/03/2003 ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== "GENEALOGISTS DO IT IN TREES!" ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== This is YOUR list so please treat it the way you wish yourself treated. Remember: "FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION" It comes bundled with the software! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Viki. All very new to me. "Chicken Legs" will investigate. Seamus: (Tout á fait Chevalier) All mail scanned by Norton AV 2002 ----- Original Message ----- From: "historyresearch" <historyresearch@supanet.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 7:21 PM Subject: [HantsLife] Australian Subscribers/change in law Hello Hampshire Listers, I have been given permission to copy this from a Surrey Rootsweb contributer to this list. Hi, all I've recently returned from my local Genealogy society meeting where it was announced that it is now illegal under Australian Federal Privacy legislation to publish any personal information for any living person, unless you have their specific written permission. If you are in Australia, please make sure that you supress all information on living people if you post your tree anywhere. I don't know whether you are even allowed to publish names - better not, just to be on the safe side. Regards Tony Rolfe - BURRILL LAKE, Australia Researching: ROLFE (ROLPH), BIRD, EDWARDS, HILLIARD (HILYARD), ROYCE and RUSSELL in Essex and Surrey STEAD, DRABBLE, CADMAN, HEADLEY in Yorkshire and Derbyshire CAREY in Manchester and Ireland The contributer has also told me: "I've e-mailed the Privacy Commissioner asking for clarification on a few points. (Can we publish names, how old must someone be before we can assume they are dead, can we publish full details under password protection and how does this apply to my site which is on a computer physically located in the USA and most of the living people are in England?)" Yours Vicki Turner ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== Please use common sense when sending or replying to messages on the list. What may not offend you may offend others. Please do not send virus warnings, or other matetial not relevant to Hampshire and its history. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Very pleased to have been able to assist in hunting this gentleman down.. tell me where abouts was he in the end! My friend in Auckland was busy ringing around all the J and G Saunders up there! I have forwarded your thank you on to her.. Well, I am from good English stock, that is why I am so helpful!!! Now can put it on NZ site saying FOUND!! Wonder if he realises he was so hounded!!! Adele at Clareville.

Presumably this means you are not permitted copies of any Australian birth, marriage or death certificates or any Parish records more recently that the 1880's just in case the person in question is still alive!!! This sounds identical to the Canadian Genealogy List Hoax that I understand was doing the rounds about 4 years age - I might be wrong, but perhaps someone in Australia in the know could confirm or deny this for us!! Moya Page (nee Banting) researching BANTING and PERREN in Hampshire ----- Original Message ----- From: historyresearch To: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 12:23 PM Subject: [HantsLife] Aaustralian subscribers/change in law Hello Hampshire Listers, I have been given permission to copy this from a Surrey Rootsweb contributer to this list. Hi, all I've recently returned from my local Genealogy society meeting where it was announced that it is now illegal under Australian Federal Privacy legislation to publish any personal information for any living person, unless you have their specific written permission. If you are in Australia, please make sure that you supress all information on living people if you post your tree anywhere. I don't know whether you are even allowed to publish names - better not, just to be on the safe side. Regards Tony Rolfe - BURRILL LAKE, Australia Researching: ROLFE (ROLPH), BIRD, EDWARDS, HILLIARD (HILYARD), ROYCE and RUSSELL in Essex and Surrey STEAD, DRABBLE, CADMAN, HEADLEY in Yorkshire and Derbyshire CAREY in Manchester and Ireland The contributer has also told me: "I've e-mailed the Privacy Commissioner asking for clarification on a few points. (Can we publish names, how old must someone be before we can assume they are dead, can we publish full details under password protection and how does this apply to my site which is on a computer physically located in the USA and most of the living people are in England?)" Yours Vicki Turner ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== Visit Where your ancestors lived..... SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages AND VI ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I understand Rootsweb was down, but is now up and running again, Moya ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Moziar To: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 2:19 PM Subject: [HantsLife] Please Ignore - TEST Just a test. Haven't received mail for days now. Best Wishes from Susan in Guelph ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== This is YOUR list so please treat it the way you wish yourself treated. Remember: "FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION" It comes bundled with the software! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Your views were confirmed Chris by a double-page spread in the Sunday Times yesterday entitled " Brits Warm to Kiwi Good Life " and sub-headlined: " Families and second-home buyers are finding their dream homes in New Zealand, where lower prices and spacious properties with breathtaking views all give great value for money" It certainly looks pretty good, so when I win the lottery I might move next door to Maureen and Derek - so be warned!!! Moya Page (nee Banting) researching BANTING and PERREN in Hampshire ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris & Caroline To: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:17 AM Subject: [HantsLife] TO ALL OUR NZ FRIENDS To all those that tried to help locating Jeff Saunders in NZ we thank you all for your efforts and glad to say the NZ Herald has come up trumps!! Thanks to one subscriber for spotting a letter from him in Saturdays issue. What a great bunch of people you all are!! NZ should be proud of you.....we are!! Chris and Caroline --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 25/03/2003 ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== "GENEALOGISTS DO IT IN TREES!" ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

If any look ups are needed from the PARISH REGISTER fiche we have at home.....see www.knightsure.co.uk/knightroots/genealogy and click "resources" for a full list. Sorry we cannot do any other parishes or non parish register look ups at present. Take care Linda & Tony

To all those that tried to help locating Jeff Saunders in NZ we thank you all for your efforts and glad to say the NZ Herald has come up trumps!! Thanks to one subscriber for spotting a letter from him in Saturdays issue. What a great bunch of people you all are!! NZ should be proud of you.....we are!! Chris and Caroline --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 25/03/2003

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Some of you are not getting the Digest at present and Rootsweb have sent this reply to our query. We realise some of you may not get this message but others are on both lists!! Chris and Caroline LIST ADMINISTRATORS HAMPSHIRE-LIFE is located on Lists2. The List2 server has been down for a couple of days and no mail is being sent out by that server. Since the server is partially back up, and you were able to access your tools page, the address was probably added and the confirmation mail is in the queue waiting to be sent when the server is fully restored. Check the yellow announcement box at http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 25/03/2003

The following has now been added to the SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) WEBSITE at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages UPDATES: A new section called "Mysteries" has now been posted. This is for people wishing to identify specific people/places etc. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages/mysteries.htm These can be found by accessing the main index. We are constantly on the look our for new articles, photos etc to add to the site and all credit will be given to the contributors. Please email us BEFORE sending items so we are prepared for them due to virus activity. We would also like to thank all of our subscribers to Hampshire Life, visitors etc for all the support they have given us in the past two years, without your help we would not have such a popular website!! _______________________________ Chris and Caroline HAYLES Eastleigh, Hampshire, UK List Administrators of HAMPSHIRE-LIFE SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) website address; http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages TO SUBSCRIBE send an e-mail with SUBSCRIBE in the text box to: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L-request@rootsweb.com> for e-mail mode HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-D-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-D-request@rootsweb.com> for digest mode To unsubscribe put "UNSUBSCRIBE" in the text box --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.465 / Virus Database: 263 - Release Date: 25/03/2003

Reposting Research Interests ABSOLOM Ruth b1724 Hale, Ham BAILEY 1822 - 1880 Portsea BAKER 1880 - 1930 Southampton BIDDLECOMBE George 1855 Redlynch. Wilt BREWER 1822 Fordingbridge, Ham BUSH 1700 1865 Fordingbridge, Ham CARTER Mary 1893 Winchester, Ham CHALK Jacob Downton, Wilt CLARKE Jane 1791 Fordingbridge, Ham CULLEY/CULLY Southampton Ham DE LABERTAUCHE Ruth b 1797 Bloomsbury Living at Newington between 1841 to 1851 then 1852 to 1871 Southampton DEACON Fordingbridge, Blissford, Ham DYMOTT - TILLY Fordingbridge, Ham EASTMAN Sarah & INGS 1847 Southampton, Ham EFFENY - WORT , Fordingbridge, Ham FERENTZ Portswood, Ham & Fort at Maidam, Afghanistan FLOWER Elizabeth 1815 Bishop's Waltham FREAK All Hampshire FRY Godshill, Boldrewood, Bramshaw, Ham GOLDING James & FREAK Maude Lilian 1898 Southampton, Ham GOULD Caroline & WORT George Blissford, Ham HARRIS & LEGGE All North Stoneham, Ham INGS All Hampshire, Wiltshire JEFFERIES Elizabeth 1762 Godshill, Fordingbridge, Ham KENCHINGTON Hyde, Fordingbridge, Ham KING Salisbury LEGGE North Stoneham MARLOW & WATTS Gorley, Ham MIST Godshill 1839 Oakley Southampton, Ham PARKMAN Southampton, Ham PARNELL 1843 - 1881 I of W Botley, South Stoneham, Andover, Ham PARRINGTON & REW/WREN 1797 Chilworth, Michelmarsh, Ham POULTON Elizabeth, Joan, Norman, Will, Southampton, Ham SAWYER Phoebe Elizabeth 1829 Timsbury & WORT SCOVEL 1830 - 1850 Downton,Wilt SILLENCE Timbury, Ham STOCKWELL All Hampshire THORNE North Stoneham, Ham TILLY Joseph DYMOTT Mary 1780 Ham TOWNSEND Charles, Frederick 1875 Southampton, Ham VIDLER Elizabeth 1791 Newton Valance, Ham WATTS Fordingbridge, Ham WITT Fordingbridge, Ham WORT All Hampshire WREN Swathling, North Stoneham, Ham