Gilberts bookshop was in Portland Street but I think it closed down a few years ago. I spent many hours browing around in there looking at their fantastic collection of old and new books. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: <pentony@infogen.net.nz> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 5:50 AM Subject: [HantsLife] Southampton IS this business still in existance, if not, when did it close down please.. important!! (as per usual!!) HENRY MARCH GILBERT & SON Ye olde Boke Shope 24 Above Bar Southampton. Reason being, have an old book, cant find out when printed, but was sold by this business. its called Picturesque Surrey.. wonderful book.. by Duncan Moul and Gibson Thompson... someone is trying to obtain a copy, but there is only Chiswick Press. Charles Whittingham & Co. Tooks Court. Chancery Lane. London. inside.. no date... wonder if they are still in existence!! I purchased it in a secondhand shop here in NZ. Thank you. Adele ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== This is YOUR list so please treat it the way you wish yourself treated. Remember: "FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION" It comes bundled with the software! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/2003

Could SKS do a lookup for a marriage of John BARTLETT & Ellen Georgina FREAK year 1922. Cheers Steve

The following updates have now been added to SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages And can be accessed from the MAIN INDEX or by clicking on the county concerned on the front page. UPDATES: Winchester - more photos added from around the Cathedral close http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages/winches2.htm Tithes, Lay Subsidy Rolls, Window and Hearth Tax in Hampshire http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages/taxes.htm SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) is not a commercial website and is to give a brief insight into the villages where your forefathers may have lived. We are constantly on the lookout for new information or old and new photographs to add. If contributing please check with us before you send this is due to virus activity etc. A credit will go alongside the photographs or articles that are submitted so please give us your name and hometown. We would also like to thank all of our subscribers to Hampshire Life, visitors etc for all the support they have given us in the past two years, without your help we would not have such a popular website!! ------------------------------------------- Chris and Caroline See where your ancestors lived.....visit.... SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) WEBSITE Featuring the history of the villages of: Hampshire, Berkshire, Surrey, Dorset, Isle of Wight, West Sussex & Wiltshire http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.486 / Virus Database: 284 - Release Date: 29/05/2003

I saw this interesting piece of information on the Hampshire Newpaper's site today at: http://www.thisishampshire.net/ I hope he belongs to one of you!! Moya Page (nee Banting) researching BANTING and PERREN in Hampshire Shock find! THE SURPRISE discovery of a 90-year-old document in Basingstoke offices has sparked an attempt to trace the family of the person it centres on. Staff from Southern Electric were tidying up their Winchester Road offices on Friday as part of acompany "dump it day" when a local manager stumbled across an apprenticeship contract dated June 1913. The agreement, signed by a man named Harold Hogarth Vevers and the local Electricity Corporation, details his hours of work, rate of pay and even includes a few sobering clauses. Manager Ric Newson, who found the document, said: "There are some interesting clauses in the agreement, one of which states that the apprentice shall 'not play cards' or other 'unlawful games' and is not allowed to 'haunt' or 'frequent' taverns." Mr Newson was tidying out files, desks and boxes from the Basingstoke office as part of a big staff clear out when he discovered the old contract, which has been passed to the Museum of Electricity in Christchurch. It states that Mr Vevers working week was 56.5 hours and his pay was 2/6d a week in the first year, rising to 5/-d in the second year and 7/6d in the third. The hard-working employee was allowed no sick pay and was granted just two weeks holiday a year. Southern Electric is now trying to trace any relatives of Mr Vevers in order to let them have a copy of this document. Are you related to Mr Vevers or can you help Southern Electric trace his relatives? Contact the newsdesk on 01256 337444 or send an e-mail to : newsdesk@basingstokegazette.co.uk

I saw this interesting piece of information on the Hampshire Newpaper's site today at: http://www.thisishampshire.net/ I hope he belongs to one of you!! Moya Page (nee Banting) researching BANTING and PERREN in Hampshire Shock find! THE SURPRISE discovery of a 90-year-old document in Basingstoke offices has sparked an attempt to trace the family of the person it centres on. Staff from Southern Electric were tidying up their Winchester Road offices on Friday as part of acompany "dump it day" when a local manager stumbled across an apprenticeship contract dated June 1913. The agreement, signed by a man named Harold Hogarth Vevers and the local Electricity Corporation, details his hours of work, rate of pay and even includes a few sobering clauses. Manager Ric Newson, who found the document, said: "There are some interesting clauses in the agreement, one of which states that the apprentice shall 'not play cards' or other 'unlawful games' and is not allowed to 'haunt' or 'frequent' taverns." Mr Newson was tidying out files, desks and boxes from the Basingstoke office as part of a big staff clear out when he discovered the old contract, which has been passed to the Museum of Electricity in Christchurch. It states that Mr Vevers working week was 56.5 hours and his pay was 2/6d a week in the first year, rising to 5/-d in the second year and 7/6d in the third. The hard-working employee was allowed no sick pay and was granted just two weeks holiday a year. Southern Electric is now trying to trace any relatives of Mr Vevers in order to let them have a copy of this document. Are you related to Mr Vevers or can you help Southern Electric trace his relatives? Contact the newsdesk on 01256 337444 or send an e-mail to : newsdesk@basingstokegazette.co.uk

hello Everyone, I desperately need help to try and find my gg grandparents, I have spent the last year pulling the 1901 census search apart and spent a small fortune and still no golden egg at the end of it. Who i am looking for is Louisa and James WHITE. I have them on every census with their families from 1851 census but they have completely disapeard from the 1901. James White may have died before 1901 but Louisa White, age 55 in 1901, did not die until 1925. also there is not trace of their two youngest children, Albert White age 15 in 1901 and Lily White age 11 in 1901, Lilly went on to marry a Mr Richardson. the last known area for the family was Odiham, but even if they moved they did stay in the same area of Hants. I know they never left Hants. Has anyone any ideas of where else to look?, is there census's for Scotland or Ireland for 1901 in case for some reason they were there? i am at a complete loss as to why Louisa white is not on the census and all the Lily/lillian whites of that age and area are not her daughter. Any advice would be more than appreciated. Suzanne Harrup

Hello Maureen, Maybe the guys went hunting in 1822, or ran out of viagra, LOL !!! These are obviously not complete lists of all that happened in those years. Had hired a researcher [ a great guy !!] in London to do some lookups for me at Broughton and Bullington, he found at least one of mine on each of the 13 pages, so he just sent me a copy of each page, and I hated to see all the other names go to waste, so I have listed them all. Mine are ROGERS and REEVES at Broughton, and ROGERS and MALT at BULLINGTON. Who knows I may find some connections to mine this way also. Since I received these he has found my 3X grandparents at Bullington, ROGERS and CROOK, now it is embarressing to tell my children that Grandma was a CROOK, LOL !!! Here are your names :- 1. Baptism at the Parish Church of Bullington, Hampshire on April, 5, 1818. George son of Stephen and Ann GRIST of Bullington, Hants. [ labourer] James JOLLIFFE, Curate. 2. Baptism at the Parish Church of Bullington, Hants. on May, 21, 1820. Henry son of Stephen and Ann GRIST of Bullington. [labourer] James JOLLIFFE, Curate. 3. Baptism at the Parish Church of Bullington, Hants. on Dec. 12, 1824. Charles [ born 25, Nov.] son of Stephen and Ann GRIST of Bullington. [labourer] M. COOPER, Curate. #3 was written in the records by a different Curate, who gave the DOB. which is nice !! Most of them didn't do that. Regards, Pam.

Used to be those Lodges here in NZ..perhaps the Early Settlers began them, we also had here in Carterton. Ancient Order of Foresters and have some of their regalia in our Museum and other items.. dates back to this area in 1860s.. even have Invitations dated 1896. I enquired with AOF in UK. and was sent out their very informative book..started in Yorkshire. Adele http://www.geocities.com/carterton_historical_society

The pronounciation came from an old dictionary published in 1929 Jon. And like you we wondered about the wine and other drinks, probably never had beer and spirits when it was first started!! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Baker" <jon@vectis10w.freeserve.co.uk> To: "Chris & Caroline" <chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk>; <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [HantsLife] Rechabites or Reckabites --- Insurance ..definetly not!! Chris Never heard it pronounced Reck-a-bites, it was always Rack-a-bites. What intrigues me now reading some of the history was why the Society insisted on complete temperance, when Rechab actually only told them to abstain from wine ;-) Jon Baker Calne, Wiltshire, UK ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris & Caroline <chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 10 June 2003 22:43 Subject: [HantsLife] Rechabites or Reckabites --- Insurance ..definetly not!! > RECHABITES_pronounced Reck-a-bites, among the Jews, the descendants of > Janadab,the son of Rechab, who bound themselves, among other things, to > abstain from wine; a society of abstainers. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Pmc248@cs.com> > To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:41 AM > Subject: [HantsLife] Rechabites or Reckabites --- Insurance ??? > > > > When I was a small child at Aldershot, Hants. in the 1930s and 1940s, my > Mother would send me weekly ? to pay the Rechabites, have no idea what that > was. > That could be an incorrect spelling, was it some type of insurance, if > not > does anyone know what it was ? > It seems to me that about the mid- 1940s I didn't have to go pay it > anymore. > > Regards, Pam [ RENNEY ] McKinley, now in Arizona. > My names :- ROGERS - REEVES - MALT - CROOK - Hampshire. > RENNEY - County Durham and anywhere. > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > Visit Where your ancestors lived..... > SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages > AND VI > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > --- > All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > And attachments are also scanned before being added. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.486 / Virus Database: 284 - Release Date: 29/05/2003 > > ______________________________ --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.486 / Virus Database: 284 - Release Date: 29/05/2003

Chris Never heard it pronounced Reck-a-bites, it was always Rack-a-bites. What intrigues me now reading some of the history was why the Society insisted on complete temperance, when Rechab actually only told them to abstain from wine ;-) Jon Baker Calne, Wiltshire, UK ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris & Caroline <chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 10 June 2003 22:43 Subject: [HantsLife] Rechabites or Reckabites --- Insurance ..definetly not!! > RECHABITES_pronounced Reck-a-bites, among the Jews, the descendants of > Janadab,the son of Rechab, who bound themselves, among other things, to > abstain from wine; a society of abstainers. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Pmc248@cs.com> > To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:41 AM > Subject: [HantsLife] Rechabites or Reckabites --- Insurance ??? > > > > When I was a small child at Aldershot, Hants. in the 1930s and 1940s, my > Mother would send me weekly ? to pay the Rechabites, have no idea what that > was. > That could be an incorrect spelling, was it some type of insurance, if > not > does anyone know what it was ? > It seems to me that about the mid- 1940s I didn't have to go pay it > anymore. > > Regards, Pam [ RENNEY ] McKinley, now in Arizona. > My names :- ROGERS - REEVES - MALT - CROOK - Hampshire. > RENNEY - County Durham and anywhere. > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > Visit Where your ancestors lived..... > SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages > AND VI > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > --- > All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > And attachments are also scanned before being added. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.486 / Virus Database: 284 - Release Date: 29/05/2003 > > ______________________________

Rechab, after whom the Rechabites were named, appears in the Book of Jeremiah, who lived in the period 600 BC. At that time only beer, from 4,000 BC, and Wine, from 5,000 BC, were available. There were also a number of potables from fruits - apples, pears etc - but not I believe in Israel. Brandy, Gin , Scotch and Vodka were all invented at about 1500 AD. There is I believe only one reference to Beer in the Bible; in Isaiah where people are described as "staggering from beer" and "befuddled from wine", whereas there are several references to wine, as wine was the predominant drink at the time. Beer only became really popular in the Christian era largely though the influence of the monasteries which improved the quality. Listening to the England-Slovakia commentary I am tempted to resort to some. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Baker" <jon@vectis10w.freeserve.co.uk> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [HantsLife] Rechabites or Reckabites --- Insurance ..definetly not!! > Chris > Never heard it pronounced Reck-a-bites, it was always Rack-a-bites. > What intrigues me now reading some of the history was why the Society > insisted on complete temperance, when Rechab actually only told them to > abstain from wine ;-) > > Jon Baker > Calne, Wiltshire, UK > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris & Caroline <chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 10 June 2003 22:43 > Subject: [HantsLife] Rechabites or Reckabites --- Insurance ..definetly > not!! > > > > RECHABITES_pronounced Reck-a-bites, among the Jews, the descendants of > > Janadab,the son of Rechab, who bound themselves, among other things, to > > abstain from wine; a society of abstainers. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Pmc248@cs.com> > > To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:41 AM > > Subject: [HantsLife] Rechabites or Reckabites --- Insurance ??? > > > > > > > > When I was a small child at Aldershot, Hants. in the 1930s and 1940s, my > > Mother would send me weekly ? to pay the Rechabites, have no idea what > that > > was. > > That could be an incorrect spelling, was it some type of insurance, if > > not > > does anyone know what it was ? > > It seems to me that about the mid- 1940s I didn't have to go pay it > > anymore. > > > > Regards, Pam [ RENNEY ] McKinley, now in > Arizona. > > My names :- ROGERS - REEVES - MALT - CROOK - Hampshire. > > RENNEY - County Durham and anywhere. > > > > > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > > Visit Where your ancestors lived..... > > SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages > > AND VI > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go > > to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > --- > > All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > And attachments are also scanned before being added. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.486 / Virus Database: 284 - Release Date: 29/05/2003 > > > > ______________________________ > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > Chris and Caroline Hayles, Eastleigh, Hampshire > List Administrators: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com > Home of SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages > EMAIL: chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk > > FAMILY WEBSITE: http://www.chayles.freeserve.co.uk > Over 1,600 villages in HAMPSHIRE, BERKSHIRE, DORSET > ISLE OF WIGHT, SURREY, WEST SUSSEX,and WILTSHIRE village history,parish church history, village photographs, and other useful information for genealogy. Lots of links to other useful sites > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This is a list of some SURNAMES from the Villages of Broughton and Bullington, Hampshire, for various years from 1792 onwards to 1867, taken from the Parish records. These include Baptisms, Marriages and Burials. Have numbered each page so it is easier to look up as I have 13 pages of names. Am just posting the SURNAMES but do have other info. on each name, so if you see one of your names just give me the name and the page it is on and I will send you the info. Some of the names are quite faded and difficult to read, but we did our best. Cheers, Pam, an Aldershot, Hampshire gal in Arizona. Pmc248@cs.com Page 1.The Parish Church of Broughton, Hampshire. 1792 to 1794. Baptisms :- ROGERS - OCCAMON - HACK - STEELE - GALE - BEAL - COOPER - SUTTON - FUTCHER - HURST - Burials :- WOODFORD - HAYTER - STROM - HAWKINS - REEVES - STEELE - HAYDEN - BEAN - GALE - Marriages :- HALL & STONEMAN BALDWIN & ETHEREDGE MORGAN & STORY Page 2. The Parish Church of Broughton, Hampshire, 1794 to 1795. Baptisms :- HATTAF or HATTAR - JUDD - JOSWELE - ROGERS - MORGAN - FABIAN - HURST - CARTER - McMASTER - POPE - HACK - GALE - BURT - FUTCHER - BEAL - MARSH - BOWER or BROWER - Page 3. The Parish Church of Broughton, Hampshire, 1815. Marriage :- ROGERS & REEVES Jan. 14, 1815. Witnesses MORGAN and WOODFORD. Page 4. The Parish Church of Broughton, Hampshire, year 1815. Baptisms :- BOWER - MARSH - ROGERS - GALE - MASON - DOBSON - BEALS Page 5. The Parish Church of Broughton, Hampshire, 1817. Baptisms :- FRAYLER - ROGERS - WATTS - WOODS - MORGAN - WATERS - Page 6. The Parish Church of Broughton, Hampshire, 1821. Baptisms :- TUBB - GALE - ROGERS - PAIN - HENDLEY - GALE - RAY - HAMMOND - BURDET - WOODFORD - McMASTER - MORGAN - GAIGER - STICKLER - ROGERS - Page 7. The Parish Church of Broughton, Hampshire, 1826. Baptisms :- NORDIC - TUBB - ROGERS - STONE - MORGAN - GALE - TAYLOR - GALTON - WOODWARD - SAMMITON - HINDLEY - FUTCHER - POSTMEIR - EDNEY - ROGERS - Page 8. The Parish Church of Broughton, Hampshire, 1827. Burials :- FABIAN - HENLEY - SAUNDERS - YALE - BOWEN - HANCOCK - CORLISS - ROGERS - Baptisms :- WATTS - WALLIS - HARRISON - RAY - YOUNGER - Page 9. The Parish Church of Broughton, Hampshire, 1828. Baptisms :- BURKE - WALLIS - JUDD - MORGAN - ROGERS - WOODS - GALTON - DERWELL - Page 10. The Parish Church of Broughton, Hampshire, 1867 ?? Burials :- ROGERS - GRIFFIN - GALE - SUTTON - RAYNELL - GUDDENS - LEABOUREN [looks like] - Page 11. The Parish Church of Bullington, Hampshire, 1818. Baptisms :- CLIFFORD - GRIST - DUDMAN - MALT - GIDDONS - WICKMAN Marriage :- RAY and DUDMAN on May 4, 1818. witnesses RAY and FORD. Burial :- SACKLEY Page 12. The Parish Church of Bullington, Hampshire, 1820. Baptisms:- GRIST - BASTIN or BARTIN - WITHERS - CLIFFORD - MALT - PERRY - JERON - Page 13. The Parish Church of Bullington, Hampshire, 1824. Baptisms :- PERRY - DUDMAN - BOLBY - MALT - DIDDENS - GRIST -

Forgot to add that was from Nuttals Dictionary published in 1929!! This is probably the original meaning, then taken on as a friendly society Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pmc248@cs.com> To: <chris@chayles.freeserve.co.uk>; <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:56 PM Subject: Re: Rechabites or Reckabites --- Insurance ..definetly not!! Thanks Chris, Every week my Mother sent me to the St. Augustines church hall, on Holly Road, at Aldershot, to pay the Rechabite lady. Didn't know what it was, thought it was some kind of Insurance. My parents were definitely teetollers, in fact we were not allowed to have playing cards, and my Mother always said to stay away from women who smoked or wore red dresses as they were prostitutes. Isn't that funny, but just to be on the safe side I have never learned to play cards, smoke or wear red dresses. As they say, you can't be too careful, LOL !!! Cheers, Pam, an Aldershot, Hants gal in Arizona. always looking for - ROGERS - REEVES - MALT - CROOK - Hampshire. RENNEY - County Durham or ??? --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.486 / Virus Database: 284 - Release Date: 29/05/2003

There is a new website featuring UK records just starting at http://www.nationalarchivist.co.uk/ We reproduced their opening page below..... Chris and Caroline The National Archivist is proud to present, for the first time, online access to digitised images of these unique Archives from the United Kingdom. The databases contain images of original indexes, entry books and registers not available elsewhere on the internet. The National Archivist Transcription Team has created searchable indexes to compliment the Archives and help you find the right entry. You can search the database for free, view images from as little as 20 pence and save and print your results. The Indexes to Death Duty Registers (PRO Class IR27) is considered by many Professionals as one of the best first places to look for a family Will or Administration. The information was compiled from all the Probate Courts in England and Wales and forms an invaluable resource. The Indexes contain details of nearly 4 Million Wills and Administrations attracting death duties between 1796 and 1903. The Registers of Births Marriages and Deaths at Sea (PRO Class BT158) details births, marriages and deaths at sea of British subjects and other Nationalities. The registers contain information about thousands of Passengers and their families, including Soldiers serving with various Regiments and the Indian Army. If you've hit a brick wall in your Ancestors trail it may well be worth checking the 60,000 names and events in these archives. The Index to Divorce and Matrimonial Causes (PRO Class J78) provides summary details of divorce and matrimonial suits raised in Victorian England. Details of the Petitioner and in some cases up to eight Defendants are listed in the Entry Books. Once considered to be the preserve of the wealthier members of society, around 150,000 individuals are named between 1858 and 1903. The National Archvist is part of Trusted Third Party Ltd, UK registered company 3745789 --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.486 / Virus Database: 284 - Release Date: 29/05/2003

Hi Sheila A lot of people used to make draft copies of the will itself so this could be what you have. Chris and Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike & Sheila" <micshe@iprimus.com.au> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:18 AM Subject: [HantsLife] "Draft" Hi List I have been transcribing the Will of one of my husbands ancestors, who was a yeoman of Wadwick. In the will dated 1685 is mentioned a "Draft". Does anybody know what is meant by this term. I was thinking that maybe it is some kind of deed to the property, but not sure. Also where may I be able to get a copy of the said draft. Any suggestions would be most welcome. Many thanks Sheila South Australia --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 19/05/2003 ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== Please use common sense when sending or replying to messages on the list. What may not offend you may offend others. Please do not send virus warnings, or other matetial not relevant to Hampshire and its history. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.486 / Virus Database: 284 - Release Date: 29/05/2003

RECHABITES_pronounced Reck-a-bites, among the Jews, the descendants of Janadab,the son of Rechab, who bound themselves, among other things, to abstain from wine; a society of abstainers. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pmc248@cs.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:41 AM Subject: [HantsLife] Rechabites or Reckabites --- Insurance ??? When I was a small child at Aldershot, Hants. in the 1930s and 1940s, my Mother would send me weekly ? to pay the Rechabites, have no idea what that was. That could be an incorrect spelling, was it some type of insurance, if not does anyone know what it was ? It seems to me that about the mid- 1940s I didn't have to go pay it anymore. Regards, Pam [ RENNEY ] McKinley, now in Arizona. My names :- ROGERS - REEVES - MALT - CROOK - Hampshire. RENNEY - County Durham and anywhere. ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== Visit Where your ancestors lived..... SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages AND VI ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- All of our Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. And attachments are also scanned before being added. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.486 / Virus Database: 284 - Release Date: 29/05/2003

Hi all, again Does anyone know, please, if there is a possibility that Nursling and Rownhams (Southampton) were ever considered to be one & the same or have they always been separate entities ? I have a Mary WEEKS listed as a Nursling shopkeeper in Kelly's 1895 Directory. Then at some time in the early 1900s, my grandpa's aunt & uncle, Stephen House (previously a gamekeeper on the Montagu estate), & his wife Elizabeth (nee WEEKS), took over the general store-cum-post office at Rownhams. I'm wondering whether or not this was the same shop, thus keeping the business 'all in the family' or whether they were in different locations. Any thoughts, suggestions, info gladly received. Kind regards Maureen, 'Hampshire Hog in Kiwiland', NZ

Pam The Independent Order of Rechabites was a friendly and temperance society formed by a group of Manchester Methodists in the 1830s. It was much like other friendly societies except that they did not meet in public houses. Before one could benefit from the Friendly Society you had to sign a declaration of temperance. The Order went into rapid decline after WW1 and again after WW2, but was certainly still in existence in the late 1960s. I was a member (it was easy to be a member of a temperance society when you were only 12 or 13 - I've made amends since!!!) but I took part in athletics championships in the south of England and still have medals from these (I probably still hold the 60 yards dash record!!). The link below is one of many to provide a brief history. http://home.clara.net/tirbach/HelpPagepearls4.html#Rechabites Its very difficult to determine if the Order still exists, I suspect it may have disappeared finally in the last 10 years or so with some of the financial institution changes that have also resulted in many building societies becoming banks. There is certainly evident that the Rechabites were still going in 1984. Jon Baker Calne, Wiltshire, UK Family History: www.vectis10w.freeserve.co.uk Calne & District Skittles League: www.calneskittles.org.uk Researching: RYALL (Isle of Wight/South Africa), DOWNTON (Dorset/IOW/NZ), KEEN (Gloucs/IOW), WALKER (Oxford/Nova Scotia), JOHNSON (Gloucs), BAKER (London/Hampshire), HAYTER (Hampshire), HUGHES (Co Armagh), STEWART (Co Down) ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pmc248@cs.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 10 June 2003 08:41 Subject: [HantsLife] Rechabites or Reckabites --- Insurance ??? > When I was a small child at Aldershot, Hants. in the 1930s and 1940s, my > Mother would send me weekly ? to pay the Rechabites, have no idea what that was. > That could be an incorrect spelling, was it some type of insurance, if not > does anyone know what it was ? > It seems to me that about the mid- 1940s I didn't have to go pay it > anymore. > > Regards, Pam [ RENNEY ] McKinley, now in Arizona. > My names :- ROGERS - REEVES - MALT - CROOK - Hampshire. > RENNEY - County Durham and anywhere. > > > ______________________________

G'day Pam. I believe The Rechebites were a temperance society. I'm sure my father was a member. They seem to have faded out after the 2nd world war. I recall there was a meeting place in London Road, Portsmouth. Just past North End junction. There were a lot of these type of societies that started in the early 19th century. Oddfellows was another BTW. I didn't understand why my father was a member. As I had seen him sink 8 or 9 pints of beer on a Saturday night. Perhaps the membership funds were used to help the wives & children of the men who were alcoholic. Seamus. (Tout á fait Chevalier ) All e-mail checked by Symantec Professional 2003. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pmc248@cs.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 3:41 PM Subject: [HantsLife] Rechabites or Reckabites --- Insurance ??? > > When I was a small child at Aldershot, Hants. in the 1930s and 1940s, my > Mother would send me weekly ? to pay the Rechabites, have no idea what that was. > That could be an incorrect spelling, was it some type of insurance, if not > does anyone know what it was ? > It seems to me that about the mid- 1940s I didn't have to go pay it > anymore. > > Regards, Pam [ RENNEY ] McKinley, now in Arizona. > My names :- ROGERS - REEVES - MALT - CROOK - Hampshire. > RENNEY - County Durham and anywhere. > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > Visit Where your ancestors lived..... > SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages > AND VI > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hi List I have been transcribing the Will of one of my husbands ancestors, who was a yeoman of Wadwick. In the will dated 1685 is mentioned a "Draft". Does anybody know what is meant by this term. I was thinking that maybe it is some kind of deed to the property, but not sure. Also where may I be able to get a copy of the said draft. Any suggestions would be most welcome. Many thanks Sheila South Australia --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 19/05/2003