You may be surprised to hear that Bill and Ben, and of course dear Weed, have been updated and still appear on TV. I have seen recordings of some of their shows on DVD. It was transmitted by the BBC and you might find they sell the DVDs Umba Globb Weed Pete -----Original Message----- From: Sylvia Showers [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 18 May 2005 05:45 To: [email protected] Subject: Remember ? The last time we were stationed in England. There was a children's show on TV, all I can remember, is Bill and Ben the flowerpot men, I know my children loved it, I try to tell them about it, they think I'm nuts, I think it was 1958/62. Dose anyone recall it. Thanks Sylvia ----- ______________________________

Funny thing Ben The ironmongers near where we workd actually sold Elbow Grease!! It was a trade mark of some other company! Same as the expression "Use your Gumption" when referring to use your brain, this was also a trade mark for an abrasive cream used for cleaning sinks etc! Chris Ben Skeates wrote: > Or a large tin of elbow grease and a bottle if invisible ink. Ernie > > Ben > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernest" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:55 PM > Subject: Re: [HantsLife] Re: WW2 Spiv & Tizer > > >> >> On 17 May 2005, at 23:09, Chris & Caroline wrote: >> >>>>> ... cheese was cut with a wire from the >>>>> whole round, so everyone got some of the 'proper' rind. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> My mum always went for the "chimney pot" the square bit left in the >>>> middle. Why pay for something you throw away - or, in wartime, was >>>> part of your ration? >>> >>> >>> It was my job to skin the cheeses then slice them using the wire and >>> our favourite trick was if we had a new girl just joined the staff >>> we would send her round to the ironmongers to get it sharpened!!! >>> The ironmonger realised what we were doing and send her back to ask >>> what side wanted sharpening. As we had Woolworth next door we used >>> to send them in for sky hooks as well. >> >> >> Reminds me of the soppy looking girl we had as a post girl. We tried >> everything to get a rise out of her, but she had a knack for turning >> the tables. >> >> We sent her to the store for a dozen spirit level bubbles. She came >> back with 4. "It's all they 'ad. Gi'us a requ for the rest and >> they'll be in Tuesday." >> >> Then we sent her for 2 dozen 1/2 inch holes. She came back from the >> blacksmith's shop next door - where the storeman had sent her - with >> a sheet of metal on a sack trolley. There were 24 1/2 holes and an >> invoice for £5. >> >> Those were the days, Eh? >> >> Ernie Bull >> Bristol >> >> >> >> ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== >> "GENEALOGISTS DO IT IN TREES!" >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> >> >> >> > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: [email protected] > To unsubscribe from the list: > Mail: [email protected] > Digest: [email protected] > In both cases put "unsubscribe" in the subject header and no text in > the message box > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 17/05/2005

Flobabob dobafloib!! Glad to help out Sylvia. And notice you have put er and he so as not to offend other weeds!! LOL Little Weed Sylvia Showers wrote: >To All the kind Weeder,s and Weed'hes out there, I thank you, it was a joy >to see Bill and Ben again. >Sylvia > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 6:00 PM >Subject: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-D Digest V05 #146 > > > > >==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== >Please use common sense when sending or replying to messages on the list. What may not offend you may offend others. Please do not send virus warnings, or other matetial not relevant to Hampshire and its history. > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 17/05/2005

When I saw that I thought you were going to say that thet would soon be in the same division as the Saints Bob (Is Rupert Lowe's middle name Ian - I keep hearing RIP Rupert Lowe

Chris wrote: > Just that I though it a bit weedy to try and copy his > speech!! :-[ His? HIS ???? Weed is a Lady! Smiles, Diz > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris & Caroline [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 18 May 2005 12:30 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [HantsLife] Remember ? > > > No Brian > Just that I though it a bit weedy to try and copy his > speech!! :-[ Chris > > Brian Cave wrote: > > > "I certainly do remember Bill and Ben..." > > > > Aren't you forgetting 'Little weeeed' ?? :-) > > > > Brian > > > > */Chris & Caroline <[email protected]>/* wrote: > > > > > > "Once upon a time there was a little house. > > And all around the house was a beautiful > > garden. And down at the bottom of the > > garden was a place where the man who > > worked in the garden left his things while > > he went in to the house to have > > his dinner..." > > > > I certainly do remember Bill and Ben Sylvia > > show your grandchildren the following link > > http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/children/watchwm/watchwm.htm > > > > FLOBALOB Blobaflob!! > > > > First screened in 1953 > > Original puppets kept at the Museum Of London > > Each new episode took two weeks to make > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > Sylvia Showers wrote: > > > > >The last time we were stationed in England. There was a > > children's show on > > >TV, all I can remember, is Bill and Ben the flowerpot > men, I know my > > >children loved it, I try to tell them about it, they think I'm > > nuts, I think > > >it was 1958/62. > > >Dose anyone recall it. Thanks Sylvia > > >----- > > > > > > > > > > > >==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > > >Chris and Caroline Hayles, Eastleigh, Hampshire > > >List Administrators: [email protected] > > >Home of SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) > > >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages > > >EMAIL: [email protected] > > > > > >FAMILY WEBSITE: http://www.chayles.freeserve.co.uk > > >Over 1,600 villages in HAMPSHIRE, BERKSHIRE, DORSET > > >ISLE OF WIGHT, SURREY, WEST SUSSEX,and WILTSHIRE village > > history,parish church history, village photographs, and other > > useful information for genealogy. Lots of links to > other useful sites > > > > > >============================== > > >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family > > and the > > >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the > last 12 months. > > >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.11 - Release Date: > > 16/05/2005 > > > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > > Visit Where your ancestors lived..... > > SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages > > > > ============================== > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > Lat. 50:45:38N Long. 0:16:34E > > > > Incoming mail is certified virus free > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version > > 7.0.308 Virus database 266.11.10 - Release date: 13/05/2005 > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > >- > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.11 - Release Date: > 16/05/2005 > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.11 - Release Date: > 16/05/2005 > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > Please use common sense when sending or replying to messages > on the list. What may not offend you may offend others. > Please do not send virus warnings, or other matetial not > relevant to Hampshire and its history. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for > your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family > and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sou rceid=14599&targetid=5429

DAVID PARKER <[email protected]> wrote: I can remember seeing a performance at the Victoria Palace in the early 1950's Yes, so did I David - and you just beat me to mentioning it. Well done. I also saw Gracie Fields at Croydon round about the same time. Another good memory. Brian Lat. 50:45:38N Long. 0:16:34E Incoming mail is certified virus free Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version 7.0.308 Virus database 266.11.10 - Release date: 13/05/2005

The last show on BBC TV was in 1978, as a result of the reorganisation of BBC Variety. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "PentonyGraham" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 7:39 PM Subject: [HantsLife] Black and White > Black and White Ministral Shows.. I used to enjoy them... guess would be a no no in this day and age... used to see them being rehearsed at the Studio in London... > > Adele > Clareville > NZ > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > Please use common sense when sending or replying to messages on the list. What may not offend you may offend others. Please do not send virus warnings, or other matetial not relevant to Hampshire and its history. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Not to forget "Weed" Sylvia. Seamus ...(Tout á fait Chevalier ) All mail scanned with Norton's 2004 updated ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sylvia Showers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 12:45 PM Subject: [HantsLife] Remember ? The last time we were stationed in England. There was a children's show on TV, all I can remember, is Bill and Ben the flowerpot men, I know my children loved it, I try to tell them about it, they think I'm nuts, I think it was 1958/62. Dose anyone recall it. Thanks Sylvia ----- ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== Chris and Caroline Hayles, Eastleigh, Hampshire List Administrators: [email protected] Home of SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages EMAIL: [email protected] FAMILY WEBSITE: http://www.chayles.freeserve.co.uk Over 1,600 villages in HAMPSHIRE, BERKSHIRE, DORSET ISLE OF WIGHT, SURREY, WEST SUSSEX,and WILTSHIRE village history,parish church history, village photographs, and other useful information for genealogy. Lots of links to other useful sites ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

To All the kind Weeder,s and Weed'hes out there, I thank you, it was a joy to see Bill and Ben again. Sylvia ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 6:00 PM Subject: HAMPSHIRE-LIFE-D Digest V05 #146

I will always remember "Muffin the Mule". Not because I was a toddler, or a dad with kids on his knee, but because I came back from Cyprus for demob in 1956 aboard a troopship. The ship's Regimental Sgt Major took one look at my Royal Signals badge and decided I would run the ship's cinema, notwithstanding I knew nothing about running a movie projector, I was a Signaller and that was good enough for him. Aboard ship we had several families being repatriated from Cyprus because of the emergency, naturally there was a whole bunch of kids. There was also another bunch of kid's, albeit in the form of the 2nd Btn Grenadier Guards. As there was little to do aboard ship, the lads of the Grenadier's asked me if they could sneak into the ships cinema and watch the kids films I showed on a daily basis. Muffin the Mule was high on the kids agenda. My reward came as we were disembarking at Southampton. As we members of the Royal Signals were marching off the dock, the whole detachment of Grenadiers lining the ships rail sang us off to a new marching tune...yes we marched off to Muffin the Mule, with a slightly different version to that which the kids enjoyed...Len

In all this nostalgia there has not been one reference to Flanagan & Allen and their warm, gentle, relaxed style of singing was mimiced by many wannabe's, including me. It was somewhat in contrast to their more hectic comedic performances in "The Crazy Gang." "The Crazy Gang" comprised of three comedy double acts - Nervo and Knox, Flanagan and Allen, Naughton and Gold . I can remember seeing a performance at the Victoria Palace in the early 1950's Bud Flanagan, was born Reuben Waintrop in Spitallields, East London in 1896 and Chesney Allen was born William Ernest Chesney Allen in Brighten, Sussex in 1894. You can listen to some of their song at this site. Sadly it does not include "Underneath The Arches" http://great-song-stylists-uk.com/Flanaganallen/Flanallen2.htm David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris & Caroline" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 5:00 AM Subject: [HantsLife] more nostsalgia > Another website with nostalgic Radioi and TV > See Sooty and Sweep and Bagpuss excerpts > Chris > http://www.sterlingtimes.co.uk/ > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.11 - Release Date: 16/05/2005 > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > "GENEALOGISTS DO IT IN TREES!" > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

A new long awaited cinema is proposed on the site of the Tesco carpark on Southampton Road. The complex will includ a cinema with 9 screens, a 70 bed hotel, gymnasium, bowling alley, shops, cafes, pub and restaurant and the cost will be arond 25m pounds. To see the design go to http://southernlife.org.uk/eastleig.htm Chris -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.11 - Release Date: 16/05/2005

Could any one help me with any information or pictures about the Morant Arms in Brockenhurst? It was originally the Bat and Ball Inn and was run by my 3 x gt grandparents. Sadly I understand it is being redeveloped now and I would love to get a picture of it. Any help would be really appreciated:) Judy

On 17 May 2005, at 23:09, Chris & Caroline wrote: >>> ... cheese was cut with a wire from the >>> whole round, so everyone got some of the 'proper' rind. >> >> >> My mum always went for the "chimney pot" the square bit left in the >> middle. Why pay for something you throw away - or, in wartime, was >> part of your ration? > > It was my job to skin the cheeses then slice them using the wire and > our favourite trick was if we had a new girl just joined the staff we > would send her round to the ironmongers to get it sharpened!!! The > ironmonger realised what we were doing and send her back to ask what > side wanted sharpening. As we had Woolworth next door we used to send > them in for sky hooks as well. Reminds me of the soppy looking girl we had as a post girl. We tried everything to get a rise out of her, but she had a knack for turning the tables. We sent her to the store for a dozen spirit level bubbles. She came back with 4. "It's all they 'ad. Gi'us a requ for the rest and they'll be in Tuesday." Then we sent her for 2 dozen 1/2 inch holes. She came back from the blacksmith's shop next door - where the storeman had sent her - with a sheet of metal on a sack trolley. There were 24 1/2 holes and an invoice for £5. Those were the days, Eh? Ernie Bull Bristol

No Brian Just that I though it a bit weedy to try and copy his speech!! :-[ Chris Brian Cave wrote: > "I certainly do remember Bill and Ben..." > > Aren't you forgetting 'Little weeeed' ?? :-) > > Brian > > */Chris & Caroline <[email protected]>/* wrote: > > > "Once upon a time there was a little house. > And all around the house was a beautiful > garden. And down at the bottom of the > garden was a place where the man who > worked in the garden left his things while > he went in to the house to have > his dinner..." > > I certainly do remember Bill and Ben Sylvia > show your grandchildren the following link > http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/children/watchwm/watchwm.htm > > FLOBALOB Blobaflob!! > > First screened in 1953 > Original puppets kept at the Museum Of London > Each new episode took two weeks to make > > > Chris > > > > > > Sylvia Showers wrote: > > >The last time we were stationed in England. There was a > children's show on > >TV, all I can remember, is Bill and Ben the flowerpot men, I know my > >children loved it, I try to tell them about it, they think I'm > nuts, I think > >it was 1958/62. > >Dose anyone recall it. Thanks Sylvia > >----- > > > > > > > >==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > >Chris and Caroline Hayles, Eastleigh, Hampshire > >List Administrators: [email protected] > >Home of SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) > >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages > >EMAIL: [email protected] > > > >FAMILY WEBSITE: http://www.chayles.freeserve.co.uk > >Over 1,600 villages in HAMPSHIRE, BERKSHIRE, DORSET > >ISLE OF WIGHT, SURREY, WEST SUSSEX,and WILTSHIRE village > history,parish church history, village photographs, and other > useful information for genealogy. Lots of links to other useful sites > > > >============================== > >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family > and the > >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.11 - Release Date: > 16/05/2005 > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > Visit Where your ancestors lived..... > SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > Lat. 50:45:38N Long. 0:16:34E > > Incoming mail is certified virus free > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) > Version 7.0.308 Virus database 266.11.10 - Release date: 13/05/2005 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.11 - Release Date: 16/05/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.11 - Release Date: 16/05/2005

"I certainly do remember Bill and Ben..." Aren't you forgetting 'Little weeeed' ?? :-) Brian Chris & Caroline <[email protected]> wrote: "Once upon a time there was a little house. And all around the house was a beautiful garden. And down at the bottom of the garden was a place where the man who worked in the garden left his things while he went in to the house to have his dinner..." I certainly do remember Bill and Ben Sylvia show your grandchildren the following link http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/children/watchwm/watchwm.htm FLOBALOB Blobaflob!! First screened in 1953 Original puppets kept at the Museum Of London Each new episode took two weeks to make Chris Sylvia Showers wrote: >The last time we were stationed in England. There was a children's show on >TV, all I can remember, is Bill and Ben the flowerpot men, I know my >children loved it, I try to tell them about it, they think I'm nuts, I think >it was 1958/62. >Dose anyone recall it. Thanks Sylvia >----- > > > >==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== >Chris and Caroline Hayles, Eastleigh, Hampshire >List Administrators: [email protected] >Home of SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages >EMAIL: [email protected] > >FAMILY WEBSITE: http://www.chayles.freeserve.co.uk >Over 1,600 villages in HAMPSHIRE, BERKSHIRE, DORSET >ISLE OF WIGHT, SURREY, WEST SUSSEX,and WILTSHIRE village history,parish church history, village photographs, and other useful information for genealogy. Lots of links to other useful sites > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.11 - Release Date: 16/05/2005 ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== Visit Where your ancestors lived..... SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx Lat. 50:45:38N Long. 0:16:34E Incoming mail is certified virus free Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version 7.0.308 Virus database 266.11.10 - Release date: 13/05/2005

Another website with nostalgic Radioi and TV See Sooty and Sweep and Bagpuss excerpts Chris http://www.sterlingtimes.co.uk/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.11 - Release Date: 16/05/2005

"Once upon a time there was a little house. And all around the house was a beautiful garden. And down at the bottom of the garden was a place where the man who worked in the garden left his things while he went in to the house to have his dinner..." I certainly do remember Bill and Ben Sylvia show your grandchildren the following link http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/children/watchwm/watchwm.htm FLOBALOB Blobaflob!! First screened in 1953 Original puppets kept at the Museum Of London Each new episode took two weeks to make Chris Sylvia Showers wrote: >The last time we were stationed in England. There was a children's show on >TV, all I can remember, is Bill and Ben the flowerpot men, I know my >children loved it, I try to tell them about it, they think I'm nuts, I think >it was 1958/62. >Dose anyone recall it. Thanks Sylvia >----- > > > >==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== >Chris and Caroline Hayles, Eastleigh, Hampshire >List Administrators: [email protected] >Home of SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages >EMAIL: [email protected] > >FAMILY WEBSITE: http://www.chayles.freeserve.co.uk >Over 1,600 villages in HAMPSHIRE, BERKSHIRE, DORSET >ISLE OF WIGHT, SURREY, WEST SUSSEX,and WILTSHIRE village history,parish church history, village photographs, and other useful information for genealogy. Lots of links to other useful sites > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.11 - Release Date: 16/05/2005

The last time we were stationed in England. There was a children's show on TV, all I can remember, is Bill and Ben the flowerpot men, I know my children loved it, I try to tell them about it, they think I'm nuts, I think it was 1958/62. Dose anyone recall it. Thanks Sylvia -----

On 11 May 2005, at 00:47, M. Page wrote: > Oh! I remember the accumulators - > Our local shop sold biscuits out of metal tins with inset glass lids, > set at an angle just off the floor in front of the counter; Can you remember being ever so naughty? Going into the grocer's and asking, "Got any broken biscuits, mister?" And running out shouting, "Why don't yer mend 'em then?" when he said, "Yes!" > Bacon was sliced on a big machine Remember the signs some grocers put up? "Do not sit your baby on the slicer. We could get behind with our orders." > ... cheese was cut with a wire from the > whole round, so everyone got some of the 'proper' rind. My mum always went for the "chimney pot" the square bit left in the middle. Why pay for something you throw away - or, in wartime, was part of your ration? The best bit was how the totted it all up on the corner of a sheet with a wee stub of pencil. Pounds, shillings, pence and fractions thereof all totaled with 100% accuracy. Ernie Bull Bristol