Forwarding this on Chris = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ----- Original Message ----- From: aunt rain To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 8:30 PM Subject: LDS plans Following is a quote from another list This is good news for those of us who use the LDS records for family research. They are planning a massive undertaking to make all of their records available via internet ... free. It won't happen overnight, but it is exciting news. You can read about it at the following web address. http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,605153189,00.html Lorraine in Michigan

----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin & Lesley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:19 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} My Website Hi everyone Have just uploaded the Petersfield marriages I to M Cheers Lesley Please visit my website:- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~buriton/index.html

Hi all I'm passing on a piece of info which might prove very helpful for those elusive ancestors on the 1901 census, Throughout September, ancestry.co.uk & ancestry.com are providing free access to the 1901, (almost). You can view the whole household & all the neighbours on the same page. You still have to pay to get the actual address, though. However, this is what has happened to me today..... I have been searching for 4 years for my great grandma's name on the 1901. ancestry.co.uk has just provided it, surname spelt incorrectly but everything else fine. Armed with the incorrect surname, I went to the 1901 Census Online site & found absolutely nothing. All was not lost as the webiste has now introduced a new search facility which currently has a free trial for a limited time. Eventually I found great granny - not only was her surname wrong, but her birthplace & the Civil Parish were not spe!t correctly! Never mind, the most important thing is that I now have her details for March 1901 so keep trying, everyone, no matter how odd your searches may seem. Maureen, NZ

Hi Folks Am in the process of uploading all the marriages for Petersfield and so far have finished from A to H. dating from 1558 to 1895. I uploaded the burials for Petersfield for 1558 to 1837 a few weeks ago but I don't think my message got through due to Rootsweb being offline. Good luck all. Lesley Please visit my website:- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~buriton/index.html

Would it be possible for any body to look up a baptism for Hannah Collier at portsea c 1780 please. She married Richard McCalpen in 1801 in portsea. Thank you. Lynne.

Message From: "Chris and Caroline" Subject: CAWTE Henry 75 YEARS AGO ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I remember Kitty Cawte. She was certainly an alderman (woman?) & possibly Mayor or Mayoress of Southampton but that wasn't as long ago as 75 years! ;-) She used to come & open our Church Garden Parties & Christmas Fayres at Shirley, year after year, when I was little. She was a very popular lady. Maureen, NZ

The one I am referring to Maureen is HENRY CAWTE who was mayor in 1905 so it would be 75 years ago. KITTY CAWTE became Mayor of Southampton in 1956. Whether this was the daughter of Henry or not I am not sure. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek&Maureen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 11:19 AM Subject: [HantsLife] CAWTE family > Message From: "Chris and Caroline" > Subject: CAWTE Henry > 75 YEARS AGO > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > I remember Kitty Cawte. > She was certainly an alderman (woman?) & possibly Mayor or Mayoress of > Southampton but that wasn't as long ago as 75 years! ;-) > She used to come & open our Church Garden Parties & Christmas Fayres at > Shirley, year after year, when I was little. > > She was a very popular lady. > > Maureen, NZ

back in 10 days Regards Bazzer Portchester Fareham Hampshire www.clarkeology.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/86 - Release Date: 31/08/2005

Does anyone have access to the 1851 British census? If there WAS one! To find the following information, I had to go to the public library to use their Ancestry Plus computer program. I do not have access to this at home. I seek information on George Griffin, born about 1811 in Dorset (Corfe Mullen). His wife was Sophia (maiden name unknown- born in Kings Worthy or Abbotts Worthy, Hants per two of the census takers) The Census for 1861 and 1871 show George and Sophia with a large family, living in Winchester, parish of Bartholomew Hyde. I wish to know what other children were in the home before the 1861 census, and especially seek Julia E. Griffin. All children listed in the 1861 and 1871 census were born in Headbourne Worthy, Hants. The 1861 census lists 7 children, 1871 census lists 8 children, and one granddaughter (born in London ! Have no idea who this child's parents were). 1881 census doesn't have either George or Sophia (don't know what happened to them), but shows Julia E. Griffin as living with her married brother Tom. Residence: 21 New Street, St. John the Evangelist, London. Julia Emily Griffin married my great-grandfather James Avey in London in 1885, and her sister, Ellen Griffin married William Day (a police officer) in Winchester, and they raised my grandfather Ernest Avey (son of James). Thank you to any and all who can provide me with dates, places and names!! Margot in USA --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---

Posting research names WORT FREAK STOCKWELL INGS CULLEY Cheers Steve -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/89 - Release Date: 2/09/2005

Hello, Colin....... I'm sorry to say that I don't know much regarding Hannah COLE.......that info regarding Hannah, originally came from the LDS records, so I can not vouch for the accuracy, but here they are....... JOHN COLE Birth: Christening: Marriage: Death: Burial: Wife HANNAH Birth: Christening: Marriage: Death: Burial: Children HANNAH COLE Birth: Christening: 23 AUG 1812 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire, England Death: Burial: Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C062613 1805 - 1812 0919738 Film 883908 Film C062613 1813 - 1822 0919739 Film NONE William Henry FLETCHER Spouse: Hannah COLE Marriage: 11 Oct 1835 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire, England Batch number: Dates Source Call No. Type Printout Call No. Type M062613 1816-1819 0919748 Film 1238664 Film M062613 1820-1828 0919749 Film NONE M062613 1829-1837 0919750 Film NONE M062613 1837-1842 0919751 Film NONE M062613 1842-1846 0919752 Film NONE M062613 1846-1850 0919753 Film NONE M062613 1850-1855 0919754 Film NONE M062613 -1855 0919755 Film NONE ~ I have a few other records from my files, in case they are helpful: http://www.familyresearcher.org/intro.cfm Hampshire England Surname Forename(s) dd mm Year Father Mother Place Baptisms COLE Elizabeth 26 Oct 1736 Thomas Frances Bramshott COLE Frances 26 Oct 1736 Thomas Frances Bramshott COLE John 11 Jan 1752 George Mary Abbots Ann Marriages COLE Richard COLLINS Christian 7 Feb 1743 *Bentworth COLE William WINTER Charlotte 13 Oct 1830 *Bentworth COLES younger Henry YOUNG Jane 24 Nov 1824 K Somborne COLES John GALE Mary 13 Jul 1755 Froxfield LOADER John BUCHELL? Mary 7 May 1738 Alver stoke 1 ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin V Whitelock To: Suzy-Q ; [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 5:31 AM Subject: Re: [HantsLife] Hampshire interests...LOADER Suzy you would not know who the father of Hannah COLE was by any chance. Colin Milford Nova Scotia Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzy-Q" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Thomas LOADER b. d. m. Mary (?) Lived in Weymouth, Wyke Regis, Dorset (1782-89) Known children of Thomas LOADER: 1. Ann LOADER b. bap 8 Sept 1782, Melcombe Regis, Dorset 2. William LOADER b. bap 30 Sept 1787, Wyke Regis, Dorset d m 4 Sept 1809, Elling, Hampshire, Eng Susanna TURL 3. Thomas LOADER b. bap 26 Sept 1789... WYKE REGIS REGISTER, DORSET: "26 Sep 1789, Thomas, son of Thos & Mary LODER,Weymouth" d. m. 19 Apr 1812, St. Marys, Portsea, Hampshire, Eng PORTSEA, ST MARYs REGISTER: 19 Apr 1812 Thomas LOADER, bachelor Martha TURL Both by banns Witnesses: Susanna LOADER, Peter TURL Martha TURL ( bap 3 Jul 1791, Eng Parents Peter TURL and Martha (?) NOTE: Thomas was a Wyke Regis shipwright of: Clock St, Portsea (1812), Amelia Row (1820), Dock Row (1828-30), 22 Portland St. (1841), 19 Portland St. (1851) Thomas LOADER had the following children: 1.Thomas Turl LOADER b. 11 Feb 1813, Portsea, Hampshire, Eng. d. 31 Mar 1894 in Iredell, Bosque Co, TX, Riverside Cem. m. 18 Feb 1844, Portsea, Hampshire, Eng. PORTSEA GENERAL REGISTER - SOUTHAMPTON, ENG: "18 Feb 1844... Thomas Turl LOADER, 31yr, Bachelor, Grocer, 22 Portland St, Landport son of Thomas LOADER, shipwright Ann COPUS, 26 yr, Spinster, Fratton Park, Landport dau of James COPUS, mariner signed by: Thos T Loader & Ann Copus.... witnesses: Martha Loader, Anthony Watts, William Fletcher" Mary Ann COPUS b. 11 Dec 1818, Gosport, Hampshire, Eng. d. 15 Apr 1894, Iredell, Bosque Co, TX, Riverside Cem. parents - James COPUS & Mary Ann HOLT NOTE: Thomas and Ann were closely associated with a FLETCHER family, but not known if through marriages... Thomas and Ann named their first child Thomas Fletcher LOADER... 1849 POST OFFICE DIRECTORY: Thomas LOADER, Grocer, St. Vincent Street, Southsea William LOADER, Boot & Shoemaker, Landport Robert COPUS, Dealer in Marine Stores, 2 Crown St, Portsmouth James Sandford FLETCHER, Grocer, Bonfire Corner, Portsea (son of James & Harriet FLETCHER) George FLETCHER, "Lord Nelson's Arms", Kingston Mrs Harriet FLETCHER, Shopkeeper, Fratton William Henry FLETCHER, Upholsterer, 188 Queen St, Portsea (m 11 Oct 1835, Saint Marys, Portsea: Hannah COLE) 2. George William LOADER b. christened 11 Nov 1817, Orange St Independent, Portsea, Hampshire. 3. William Hannaford LOADER b. christened 13 Feb 1820, St Marys, Portsea, Hampshire. m. 1 Jul 1849, Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire. Charlotte Emma RASELL Advertised in trade journals, 1847, living (or working) Little Charlotte St, Landport. "1849 Post Office Directory": William Loader, Boot & Shoemaker, Landport 4. Charles Luke LOADER b. christened 24 Nov 1822, St Marys, Portsea, Hampshire. 5. Martha Jane LOADER b. ca 1821-16 in Hampshire. m. 24 Jun 1844, St Marys, Portsea, Hampshire Anthony WATTS 6. James Henry LOADER b. christened 24 Feb 1828 in St Marys, Portsea, Hampshire. 7. Robert Henry LOADER b. christened 16 May 1830 in St Marys, Portsea, Hampshire. 8. Sarah Ann LOADER b. ca 1833 in Portsea, Hampshire. 4. Rhoda LOADER b. bap 3 Jul 1791, Elling ~~~~~~~~

Margot. Many thanks sweetie. I too had one of those tin broaches (29 & still holding) given to me by my children, 30 years ago. It's hiding in one of those secret places, that we can never find. That's the good thing about hiding places when you get old. They are too well hidden. Seamus ...(Tout á fait Chevalier ) All mail scanned with Norton's 2004 updated ----- Original Message ----- From: Margot Avey To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 11:36 PM Subject: [HantsLife] BIRTHDAYS In reference to the following statement: "Hear you are twenty one today, for the third time!!" - When asked how old one is on a birthday, we respond in the USA - "twenty one and holding" OR "twenty nine and holding" OR "thirty nine and holding"..rounding off to the nearest number and maintaining at that age. It actually does make a person feel younger when saying it! My English father used to say - "I'm as old as my little finger and older than my front tooth!" Margot Minnesota --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== Visit Where your ancestors lived..... SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Dark horse.... Congratulations on the ???????? anniversary of your birth.. to put it a different way!! Adele in Kiwiland.

Got this from a lister and thought I would pass it on for your comments. Chris Hi Chris I'm a bit behind reading the lists, so someone may have sent in the following already. I bet it will set off lots of fireworks! (I've just sent the message to the Bristol list) Ron I haven't seen this yet on any lists, but come 2051, '61, '71, it will be generating lots of discussion! The following quote is from a trailer for a BBC Radio 4 programme: "In Part One of "Losing the Past", Richard Hollingham investigates specific examples of what is now unplayable or unreadable. For example, he can reveal for the first time, that the UK population census data from 1951 are lost, as are significant parts of the 1961 and 1971 census data." http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/losing_the_past.shtml I'll be 104 in 2051, so can't imagine that I'll be contributing! Best wishes Ron

Not sure what ist it was but somebody mentioned CAWTE as being the Mayor of Southampton a while ago. So am sending this snippet from todays Southern Echo. Chris "75 YEARS AGO Southampton was coming to terms with the shocking news following the death of Henry CAWTE JP, an ex-mayor of Southampton and ex alderman of the Borough Council, who died from cerebral haemorrhage. Mr Cawte was one of the best known men in Southampton, who had been a Shirley resident for more than 50 years and a familiar face through his work on the borough council and as a builder and contractor"

Good one Margot But the only trouble is at mine and Seamus's age there isn't much to hold on to!! LOL Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margot Avey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 4:36 PM Subject: [HantsLife] BIRTHDAYS > > In reference to the following statement: "Hear you are twenty one today, > for the third time!!" - When asked how old one is on a birthday, we > respond > in the USA - "twenty one and holding" OR "twenty nine and holding" OR > "thirty nine and holding"..rounding off to the nearest number and > maintaining at that age. It actually does make a person feel younger when > saying it! > > My English father used to say - "I'm as old as my little finger and older > than my front tooth!" > > Margot > Minnesota > > > > > --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- > http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > Visit Where your ancestors lived..... > SOUTHERN LIFE(UK) > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~villages > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

ITS SEAMUS' BIRTHDAY TODAY!! Happy Birthday Seamus! Hear you are twenty one today, for the third time!! LOL Have a good day mate. Wondered what you meant by you said you were out celebrating!! Chris

In reference to the following statement: "Hear you are twenty one today, for the third time!!" - When asked how old one is on a birthday, we respond in the USA - "twenty one and holding" OR "twenty nine and holding" OR "thirty nine and holding"..rounding off to the nearest number and maintaining at that age. It actually does make a person feel younger when saying it! My English father used to say - "I'm as old as my little finger and older than my front tooth!" Margot Minnesota --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---

Pam We are praying you get this as cannot contact you direct as emails keep bouncing. Please let us know if you are okay and have not suffered through Katrina. Chris and Caroline

Hi All Have added some new 1841 census items to my web site for East Meon, www.safari.freeserve.co.uk follow the link to transcripts site. Colin