Did anyone in the UK watch the dramatization on Ch4 tonight about the Somme? Absolutely brilliant and an eye opener. This was Britains biggest defeat with 19,000 killed in one day and 35,000 wounded. Ch4 are doing some more on this line I believe. You can search for your ancestors on their webpage at http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/L/lostgeneration/index.html Watch the Flash Movie Chris

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Hi Derek I have a number of BUDD family from Hampshire if interested. regards Ben

Hi Maureen I forgot to mention, I had just arrived home on week end leave from the boys training establisment at Gosport.and threw them out. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek&Maureen" <[email protected]> To: "Ben Skeates" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [HantsLife] Re:French Onions > Message From: "Ben Skeates" > I also remember the Jehovas Witness people, they had a wind up gramophone > and played a horrible record supposed to be from the spirit world. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Hello Ben > The above made my day - I laughed & laughed, > Mind you, I wouldn't have liked to have been on the receiving end of it - > I > imagine it would have been awful. > Goodness knows what my mum would have made of that ! > She always refused to buy their Publication (was it The Watchtower?) but > got > stuck in with her own views (I was brought up a Baptist) > > Warm regards > Maureen, NZ > > >

Hampshire Record Office have now put on line some 10,000 digital images of Hampshire. If you go to their search page at: http://calm.hants.gov.uk/DServeA/search.htm enter a keyword and select Digital Image in the box labelled Format Good idea BUT one small problem I am on Broadband (1Mb) and got timed out three times while it found the image. Seems to be very slow maybe its busy but those on Dial up beware!! Chris

Hi Derek I am sending an attachment (ZIPPED) on the above direct to you, NOT to the List Best regards Ben

I was asked to forward this to the list as it seems there is a big scam going around. Chris This was on another list. I checked it out, and it is true. Beware of personal web pages that may look suspicious (and watch out for places like WORLD FAMILY TREE and other places on the internet that might be taken in by this fake genealogy information. http://eogn.typepad.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2005/11/generating_fake.html TinyURL http://tinyurl.com/7vj3d

Hear! Hear! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris and Caroline" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 3:46 PM Subject: [HantsLife] On Flanders Field > In Flanders fields the poppies blow > Between the crosses, row on row > That mark our place; and in the sky > The larks, still bravely singing, fly > Scarce heard amid the guns below. We are the Dead. Short days ago > We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow, > Loved and were loved, and now we lie > In Flanders fields. > Take up our quarrel with the foe: > To you from failing hands we throw > The torch; be yours to hold it high. > If ye break faith with us who die > We shall not sleep, though poppies grow > In Flanders fields. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > THE FINAL INSPECTION > The soldier stood and faced God, Which must always come to pass. He hoped > his shoes were shining, Just as brightly as his brass. > "Step forward now, you soldier, How shall I deal with you ? Have you > always turned the other cheek ? To My Church have you been true?" > The soldier squared his shoulders and said, "No, Lord, I guess I ain't. > Because those of us who carry guns, Can't always be a saint. > I've had to work most Sundays, And at times my talk was tough. And > sometimes I've been violent, Because the world is awfully rough. > But, I never took a penny, That wasn't mine to keep... Though I worked a > lot of overtime, When the bills got just too steep. > And I never passed a cry for help, Though at times I shook with fear. And > sometimes, God, forgive me, I've wept unmanly tears. > I know I don't deserve a place, Among the people here. They never wanted > me around, Except to calm their fears. > If you've a place for me here, Lord, It needn't be so grand. I never > expected or had too much, But if you don't, I'll understand. > > There was a silence all around the throne, Where the saints had often > trod. As the soldier waited quietly, For the judgment of his God. > "Step forward now, you soldier, You've borne your burdens well. Walk > peacefully on Heaven's streets, You've done your time in Hell." > ~Author Unknown~ > > ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > This is YOUR list so please treat it the way you wish yourself treated. > Remember: "FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION" It comes bundled with the software! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Message from Chris at Hampshire Life, he found on a map a site in Wiltshire called New Zealand, well I have Googled New Zealand Hampshire and come up with the following... 29 pages later....curiosity got the better of me, but I had seen it on the atlas some time ago, and never bothered about it... seems there is a bit of history there, I thought perhaps a new town.. but...read on.. then I thought perhaps it had to do with WW1 when New Zealand Soldiers where in hospitals in England, one I knew off was at Brockenhurst, then another one at Walton on Thames... yes I have quoted both Hampshire and Wiltshire..it comes under British History on line. CHUTE. A History of Wiltshire. Chute is on the boundary of Wiltshire and Hampshire. Roman road goes through the area. New Zealand Farm was built 1841 and 1879. 600m. east of Gammons Farm, in the mid 20th Century Chantry Farm was built south of New Zealand Farm... (this is quoted on page 7 of 29) I would therefore suggest that anyone as interested as I am in this name, should print out the page(s) and have a read of some lovely English history..Barons. Viscounts.. Right through out England one can come across names of other cities spread through out the world, Washington for one... so the English do not need a passport to travel to New Zealand any more, its right on their doorstep! I will now make a coffee, and read up about Chute and New Zealand.. Wonder who named it as such... that is what I would like to know.. since it only came into being 1840.. did one of the locals visit NZ or their relatives.. This is why I have sent this to both Hampshire and New Zealand site... Adele Clareville.

The No3 General Hospital Adele was at Codford just up the road in Wiltshire. You can see the list of the soldiers who died on the CWGC website at http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/cemetery_reports.aspx?cemetery=45456&mode=1 I will be adding this a bit later., when we have photographed all the graves there. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "PentonyGraham" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 6:23 PM Subject: [HantsLife] New Zealand UK style!! > Message from Chris at Hampshire Life, he found on a map a site in > Wiltshire called New Zealand, well I have Googled New Zealand Hampshire > and come up with the following... 29 pages later....curiosity got the > better of me, but I had seen it on the atlas some time ago, and never > bothered about it... seems there is a bit of history there, I thought > perhaps a new town.. but...read on.. then I thought perhaps it had to do > with WW1 when New Zealand Soldiers where in hospitals in England, one I > knew off was at Brockenhurst, then another one at Walton on Thames... yes > I have quoted both Hampshire and Wiltshire..it comes under British History > on line. CHUTE. A History of Wiltshire. Chute is on the boundary of > Wiltshire and Hampshire. Roman road goes through the area. > > New Zealand Farm was built 1841 and 1879. 600m. east of Gammons Farm, in > the mid 20th Century Chantry Farm was built south of New Zealand Farm... > (this is quoted on page 7 of 29) > > I would therefore suggest that anyone as interested as I am in this name, > should print out the page(s) and have a read of some lovely English > history..Barons. Viscounts.. > > Right through out England one can come across names of other cities spread > through out the world, Washington for one... so the English do not need a > passport to travel to New Zealand any more, its right on their doorstep! > > I will now make a coffee, and read up about Chute and New Zealand.. Wonder > who named it as such... that is what I would like to know.. since it only > came into being 1840.. did one of the locals visit NZ or their relatives.. > This is why I have sent this to both Hampshire and New Zealand site... > > Adele > Clareville. > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > Please use common sense when sending or replying to messages on the list. > What may not offend you may offend others. Please do not send virus > warnings, or other matetial not relevant to Hampshire and its history. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Hello Everybody, You may be interested to know that New Zealand Farm is still there and has a very large sign to indicate it as the entrance is passed on Chute Causeway. My wife and I were at the entrance last Saturday afternoon enjoying the view which stretches for about twelve miles to the south. When winter is here it is a very cold spot and it is good sheep farming country. I will make some local enquiries to see if I can find the source of the name. Rod in Andover.

In Flanders fields the poppies blow Between the crosses, row on row That mark our place; and in the sky The larks, still bravely singing, fly Scarce heard amid the guns below. We are the Dead. Short days ago We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow, Loved and were loved, and now we lie In Flanders fields. Take up our quarrel with the foe: To you from failing hands we throw The torch; be yours to hold it high. If ye break faith with us who die We shall not sleep, though poppies grow In Flanders fields. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THE FINAL INSPECTION The soldier stood and faced God, Which must always come to pass. He hoped his shoes were shining, Just as brightly as his brass. "Step forward now, you soldier, How shall I deal with you ? Have you always turned the other cheek ? To My Church have you been true?" The soldier squared his shoulders and said, "No, Lord, I guess I ain't. Because those of us who carry guns, Can't always be a saint. I've had to work most Sundays, And at times my talk was tough. And sometimes I've been violent, Because the world is awfully rough. But, I never took a penny, That wasn't mine to keep... Though I worked a lot of overtime, When the bills got just too steep. And I never passed a cry for help, Though at times I shook with fear. And sometimes, God, forgive me, I've wept unmanly tears. I know I don't deserve a place, Among the people here. They never wanted me around, Except to calm their fears. If you've a place for me here, Lord, It needn't be so grand. I never expected or had too much, But if you don't, I'll understand. There was a silence all around the throne, Where the saints had often trod. As the soldier waited quietly, For the judgment of his God. "Step forward now, you soldier, You've borne your burdens well. Walk peacefully on Heaven's streets, You've done your time in Hell." ~Author Unknown~

Hi Chris I had a couple of magnetis bracelets that was supposed to cure all sorts but it didn't make any difference, though I guess the type of magntic treatment you refer to is much more advance. BTW Since arriving hear in OZ they lost the magnetic fields, must be too near the south pole. Even my Swiss compass needle point swings down toward the ground. Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris and Caroline" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:33 AM Subject: Get fit lads and lasses!! > Had to go to the hospital today at Winchester for a cardiac check and to > see about treatment to my blocked arteries (perfectly true) and the first > thing the consultant asked > was do I exercise and I replied..... > > "I feel like my body has gotten totally out of shape, so I got my > GP's permission to join a fitness club and start exercising. I > decided to take an aerobics class for seniors. I bent, twisted, > gyrated, jumped up and down, and perspired for an hour. But, by the > time I got my leotards on, the class was over." (Not quite so true!!) > > He's made me another appointment for something to do with magnets now!! > (True!) > Anybody know anything about this type of treatment? > Chris > > > >

I finally checked with my Hants friend - and yes, there is still (at least) one bicycling French onion seller in Hampshire, called Pascal, aged about 40ish - his father who also used to make the trip, died recently... The Harrow pub at Steep, buy their onions from Pascal Best wishes Hille

I can remember an old house/business in Horncastle. Lincolnshire with a Priest Hole.. this property was bought by my Uncle and Aunt and they showed me the priest hole. we went up into the attic, and had to be careful, as we looked down there was a small cubby hole.. mind you the priest would have to have been slim! nevertheless it was there... very old building. This is what I miss out in NZ... old property with bits and pieces built in... and even ghosts! Adele

Found this one as well in Norwich!! Hampshire hog yard still exists Convicted 18.07.1885 of allowing consumption out of hours. Fine £2 plus 8/- costs http://www.norfolkpubs.co.uk/norwich/hnorwich/hhog.htm Between 83-79 Westwick Street, Hampshire Hog, Public Yard, St Swithin, Norwich 1901 http://www.geocities.com/seraphim_angel_2002/gypsycen4.html Victorian London Streets Hampshire Hog Yard, St Giles in the Fields, ST GILES [1862] The Old Bailey also lists these locations which are mentioned in various trials Hampshire Hog, in Rosemary-lane Hampshire Hog, in the Strand Hampshire Hog, St. Giles's Hampshire-hog yard Hampshire-hog-yard Hampshire-hog-yard, St. Giles's Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [HantsLife] Can anyone help find this? In a message dated 08/11/2005 12:24:00 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: On one of the Old Bailey cases see http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/html_sessions/T18220703.html there is a reference to a Hampshire Hog Yard, but no trace of where this might be is found. Anybody any ideas? Chris A quick google of Hampshire Hog Yard gives several locations, all seem to be a pub known as the Hampshire Hog and its yard at back or side Graham

This is all I could find Derek Though a lot of our church history shows there are a lot of priest holes around the county, though non catholic. Chris One on Berkshire http://www.berksfhs.org.uk/journal/Sep2002/CatholicRecusancyInBerkshire.htm A lot of the houses of catholics also had these built in, not just churches etc., West Grinsead .........The work at West Grinstead continues. On Father Goddard's arrival at the Priest's House in 1997 the first winter was so cold the house might not have had a roof, so full of draughts it was. The loft has since been insulated. In the course of improvements two years ago Father Goddard discovered a third priest hole http://www.madeleinebeard.co.uk/Documenta/shrine.html Wymering ..........Just a stone's throw from Wymering Church, there are a couple of once-secret priest holes in the building, used for hiding Catholic clergy during the dissolution of the monasteries in the 16th century. http://www.portsmouthtoday.co.uk/mk4custompages/CustomPage.aspx?PageID=26959&sectionID=4553 ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 12:02 PM Subject: [HantsLife] priests holes > Dear Chris, > Are there any details available abou catholic 'priests holes', p;ease? > > Regards, Derek > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE-LIFE Mailing List ==== > "GENEALOGISTS DO IT IN TREES!" > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

On one of the Old Bailey cases see http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/html_sessions/T18220703.html there is a reference to a Hampshire Hog Yard, but no trace of where this might be is found. Anybody any ideas? Chris

Dear Chris, Are there any details available abou catholic 'priests holes', p;ease? Regards, Derek

This may interest people with a liking for fishing! Chris The obituary of Alex Behrendt is published in the online version of The Times today. Though not a native of Hampshire, his post war ventures were based in Hampshire were decidedly influential. This is the web-page : http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,60-1857950_1,00.html