Brian Thanks for 1861 entries. At the moment I'm not sure if any relate to my family but time will tell. Bob Likewise, I don't know if your Ellen Bellinger is related but she is definitely not my ggrandmother because she was born about 1837 (South Hayling),(or if the 1861 census age is right then about 1840, Portsea). I need to recheck this. Gill North Wales UK