I think it may be I will have to find his birth details to be sure. his father comes from St Peter Port and was married in alverstoke Gosport 15 Oct 1860 now why would he go back to Guernsey when all his other children were born in Alverstoke unless the error is in the birthplace of John and the enumerator got it wrong. The other thing is Thomas Henry in the 1861 is living with his wife no children at his mother in laws house. Now why would a man take his wife who was born in Yorkshire to Guernsey to have a child ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Kipp" <kippeeb@magma.ca> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [Ham] List Motivation > Don't you think this is your John in the Channel Islands Census (he is > born > in 1861 according to the 1901 census)? > >> > John Gallienne abt 1861 Torteval, Guernsey, Channel Islands Head >> > Torteval >> > Jersey > > Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Elizabeth Kipp" <kippeeb@magma.ca> >> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:26 PM >> Subject: Re: [Ham] List Motivation >> >> >> > If you go to the Channel Island Census for 1901 - RG13/5317 - (Jersey, >> > Torteval, District >> > 3, Page 7, ). This John born in 1861 seems reasonable. I wonder who the >> > other John is! >> > >> > Emily M Gallienne abt 1853 St Peters in the Wood, Guernsey, Channel >> > Islands Wife >> > Torteval Jersey >> > Fredrick Gallienne abt 1882 Torteval, Guernsey, Channel Islands Son >> > Torteval Jersey >> > John Gallienne abt 1861 Torteval, Guernsey, Channel Islands Head >> > Torteval >> > Jersey >> > John Gallienne abt 1895 Torteval, Guernsey, Channel Islands Son >> > Torteval >> > Jersey >> > Mary Gallienne abt 1884 Torteval, Guernsey, Channel Islands Daughter >> > Torteval Jersey >> > Nicholas Gallienne abt 1877 Torteval, Guernsey, Channel Islands Son >> > Torteval Jersey >> > Peter Gallienne abt 1880 Torteval, Guernsey, Channel Islands Son >> > Torteval >> > Jersey >> > Thomas Gallienne abt 1879 Torteval, Guernsey, Channel Islands Son >> > Torteval >> > Jersey >> > >> > Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp >> > >> > On Nov 28, "Elizabeth Kipp" <kippeeb@magma.ca> wrote: >> >> >> >> I wonder if it is an error on the part of the enumerator in that he is >> >> 12 years older than his wife. Perhaps it should have read 42 which is >> >> still not quite right but closer. >> >> >> >> Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp >> >> >> >> On Nov 28, <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Yes Elizabeth I agree but the age difference is rather a lot don't >> >> > you >> >> > think >> >> > 1849 to 1862 is quite a leap but it would make sense why he is not >> >> > in >> >> > other >> >> > census if he was around the world all the time >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: "Elizabeth Kipp" <kippeeb@magma.ca> >> >> > To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 2:57 PM >> >> > Subject: Re: [Ham] List Motivation >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >I would say that he is born at Guernsey not Germany. >> >> > > >> >> > > The 1901 census has him living with his wife and child at 3 Elm >> >> > > Bank >> >> > > Gardens, in Surrey, Barnes part of St. Marys, part of Barnes UD, >> >> > > part >> >> > > of Kingston on page 30, RG13/680. >> >> > > >> >> > > John Gallienne, age 52, commission agent, born Guernsey, Channel >> >> > > Islands >> >> > > Mary, age 40, born Yorkshire, Attercliffe >> >> > > John, age 12, born Brazil (British subject) >> >> > > Ethel, Age 9, born Portugal (British subject) >> >> > > Cyril, age 6, born Shepherds Bush, Middlesex >> >> > > Ernest, age 5, Notting Hill, Middlesex >> >> > > Mary Todd, widow 44, nurse , Stoke Newington, Middlesex >> >> > > >> >> > > I will glance some more. >> >> > > >> >> > > Elizabeth >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp >> >> > > >> >> > > On Nov 28, <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Ok no advance on Stephen NEWELL or Thomas HOLLIS lets try this >> >> > >> one >> >> > >> John >> >> > >> GALLIENNE b abt 1862 to Thomas Henry GALLIENNE and Ellen RILEY. >> >> > >> The >> >> > >> only >> >> > >> other information I have is 1871 Census living with his >> >> > >> Grandmother >> >> > >> Mary >> >> > >> Burgess nee Riley in Alver Rd. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Any help on this please >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Bob Newell >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> >> > >> Genealogy is contagious and you don't have to sneeze to pass it >> >> > >> on >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> >> > > Genealogy is contagious and you don't have to sneeze to pass it on >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> >> > Our ancestors never die >> >> > heaven knows where they goes. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> >> Our ancestors never die >> >> heaven knows where they goes. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> > Parish Register transcriptions for some parishes are available on line >> > at >> > www.knightroots.co.uk - click "parish registers" >> > >> >> >> ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> A genealogist NEVER dies he just grows more roots >> >> > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk >