Hi Mary Have any of your Brices married a Thomas Mills? Thanks Althea ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Haskell" <dh014a7479@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [Ham] James MOORE - coachman > Hello David > > Thank you very much for your very full reply. It has dented this brick > wall a bit. Only hope I can find the family by "walking the streets" in > the 1841 census for Hampshire. He had died by 1851 and his widow was 36 > with 7 children. > > Mary Haskell, Slough, Berkshire > Researching: > HASKELL; WHITEAR Hampshire & Wiltshire > CHIVERS,KNIGHT,KNELLER, BRICE; MORRIS; HOLDER; WHITE, PARKER; BELL; > MOORE, BURTON; > WITT; PERN; MOUNTAINE; COLE Hampshire > WILSON, Surrey; > BROWN Hants/Wilts, > MATTINGLEY, Berks > CARR Middlesex > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DAVID PARKER" <parker3250@rogers.com> > To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 12:33 AM > Subject: Re: [Ham] James MOORE - coachman > > > > Hi Mary. > > I believe that there were a number classification of men > > who > > drove a horse drawn vehicle in the Victorian era. As their employment > > depended on the health of the horses - theirs or their employers - they > > would act as grooms as well as drivers. > > > > 1. Cabmen who drove a small passenger vehicle or hackney carriage for > > hire which were available in large cities in England and France since the > > 17thC > > 2. Coachmen who drove stagecoaches on longer journeys from town to > > town. > > Like the Hackney Carriages these were available from the mid 17th C > > 3. Carters who drove a horse drawn vehicle to transport goods. These > > were sometimes independent self-employed men. > > 4. Coachman usually employed by a family, for whom a coach and the > > number > > of coaches indicated their standing. These were often referred to as > > "Domestic Coachmen" and "outdoor servants". Their responsibilities could > > also include acting as a groom and/or guard. > > 5. Tram drivers - but that was after the period you quoted > > > > > > The census asked the individual to classify their occupation so one class > > may opt to list themselves as another. > > > > Hope that this helps a little > > > > David > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mary Haskell" <dh014a7479@blueyonder.co.uk> > > To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 4:23 PM > > Subject: [Ham] James MOORE - coachman > > > > > >> The occupation of one of my husband's great, great grandfathers was a > > coachman on his daughter's marriage certificate. I can't find a > > description > > of the job in one of the old occupations web sites. Has anyone any ideas > > on > > what his line of work would have been? Coach and horses perhaps between > > towns? Working for local lords of the manor? He died around 1850/1851 > > (his > > wife was described as a widow of 36 with 7 children in 1851 census, > > youngest > > 9 months). Any other websites giving old occupations? > >> > >> Many thanks for help. Mary Haskell, Slough, Berkshire > >> Researching: > >> HASKELL; WHITEAR Hampshire & Wiltshire > >> CHIVERS,KNIGHT,KNELLER, BRICE; MORRIS; HOLDER; WHITE, PARKER; BELL; > > MOORE, BURTON; > >> WITT; PERN; MOUNTAINE; COLE Hampshire > >> WILSON, Surrey; > >> BROWN Hants/Wilts, > >> MATTINGLEY, Berks > >> CARR Middlesex > >> > >> > >> ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > >> Parish Register transcriptions for some parishes are available on line at > > www.knightroots.co.uk - click "parish registers" > >> > > > > ______________________________ > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Our ancestors never die > heaven knows where they goes. >