All I want for Christmas is my Great-grandfather Wm. James Hellyer (1854-c1891). (Cannot find William's death/burial date - from checked 1885 -1915) He was not buried in Highland Rd. Kingston, nor Milton, nor Mile End Cemeteries - 1886-1915- records checked by Portsmouth Govt. Office. The Hampshire Record Office checked the National Probate Calendars & with York 1891-1897, no Wills listed. Portsmouth Cemetery Office also checked 1884-1915 and no Wm. James Hellyer. Looked at Ann's Hill Gosport Burials 1897-1904, to no avail. Checked St. George's Parish, Waterloo, saw a MI for Wm. James Hellyer age 30? . Saw a Death, 1st Qtr 1891- 2b, 354 Portsea (vol &page) age 30 -died 11th Feb. (Birth of this WJH#2 lst Qtr 1861 2b 343 or March 3, 1861 at Westbourne). Also a marriage of a WJH and Annie New in (20th May 1889 St.Andrews) 2nd Qtr 1889 2b 725 Havant) The NEW family of Hambledon lived in Farlington during '81 Census, & WJH #2 at White Hart Inn in Farlington. our William would have been 37. Could be a transcription error. Have death cert. for this one cert. for 11 Feb 1891 Waterlooville. Edna checked through the '81 Census to see if another WJH fit but none did. This particular WJH was buried with his sister Amelia Kate Hellyer in 1883, she was 12 at the time and died 1st Qtr '83 2b 283 Havant. She was born 1st Qtr 1871 Vol 2b 381 Westbourne actually at Forestside with Stanstead, on the 12 Jan 1871, parents William (a labourer) & Sarah Hellyer. Kate was living with family in Stoughton north of Westbourne, Sussex in 1871 just three months old. This is not my WJH. Still looking for Great-grandpa.... Sniffle, Edna - Ottawa

Hi Edna this WJH of yours am I to presume it the WJH born 1854 Gosport son of William 1830 occ Plumber and Ann 1834 and Brother Henry. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edna" <ekbrit@rogers.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:08 PM Subject: [Ham] William James HELLYER (1854-c1891) > > All I want for Christmas is my Great-grandfather Wm. James Hellyer > (1854-c1891). > > (Cannot find William's death/burial date - from checked 1885 -1915) He > was not buried in Highland Rd. Kingston, nor Milton, nor Mile End > Cemeteries - 1886-1915- records checked by Portsmouth Govt. Office. The > Hampshire Record Office checked the National Probate Calendars & with York > 1891-1897, no Wills listed. Portsmouth Cemetery Office also checked > 1884-1915 and no Wm. James Hellyer. Looked at Ann's Hill Gosport Burials > 1897-1904, to no avail. > > Checked St. George's Parish, Waterloo, saw a MI for Wm. James Hellyer age > 30? . Saw a Death, 1st Qtr 1891- 2b, 354 Portsea (vol &page) age > 30 -died 11th Feb. (Birth of this WJH#2 lst Qtr 1861 2b 343 or March 3, > 1861 at Westbourne). Also a marriage of a WJH and Annie New in (20th May > 1889 St.Andrews) 2nd Qtr 1889 2b 725 Havant) The NEW family of Hambledon > lived in Farlington during '81 Census, & WJH #2 at White Hart Inn in > Farlington. > our William would have been 37. Could be a transcription error. Have > death cert. for this one cert. for 11 Feb 1891 Waterlooville. Edna > checked through the '81 Census to see if another WJH fit but none did. > This particular WJH was buried with his sister Amelia Kate Hellyer in > 1883, she was 12 at the time and died 1st Qtr '83 2b 283 Havant. She was > born 1st Qtr 1871 Vol 2b 381 Westbourne actually at Forestside with > Stanstead, on the 12 Jan 1871, parents William (a labourer) & Sarah > Hellyer. Kate was living with family in Stoughton north of Westbourne, > Sussex in 1871 just three months old. This is not my WJH. > > Still looking for Great-grandpa.... > > Sniffle, > > Edna - Ottawa > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Turn over a new leaf - there might be a new ancestor hiding underneath > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk >

Edna bear with me on this if your WJH is the man I mentioned then listed in the 1891 census there is a William Hillyer b Portsmouth 1856 occ Plumber with his wife Ellen in Midhurst, Sussex. Now there is a death 1894 Midhurst William James Hellier age 35. Now in the 1881 census William is with his parents and he is listed as a Plumber the same as his father. They are living at Clarence Parade Southsea. Well what do you think is this your man Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [Ham] William James HELLYER (1854-c1891) > Hi Edna this WJH of yours am I to presume it the WJH born 1854 Gosport son > of William 1830 occ Plumber and Ann 1834 and Brother Henry. > > Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edna" <ekbrit@rogers.com> > To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:08 PM > Subject: [Ham] William James HELLYER (1854-c1891) > > >> >> All I want for Christmas is my Great-grandfather Wm. James Hellyer >> (1854-c1891). >> >> (Cannot find William's death/burial date - from checked 1885 -1915) He >> was not buried in Highland Rd. Kingston, nor Milton, nor Mile End >> Cemeteries - 1886-1915- records checked by Portsmouth Govt. Office. The >> Hampshire Record Office checked the National Probate Calendars & with >> York 1891-1897, no Wills listed. Portsmouth Cemetery Office also checked >> 1884-1915 and no Wm. James Hellyer. Looked at Ann's Hill Gosport Burials >> 1897-1904, to no avail. >> >> Checked St. George's Parish, Waterloo, saw a MI for Wm. James Hellyer age >> 30? . Saw a Death, 1st Qtr 1891- 2b, 354 Portsea (vol &page) age >> 30 -died 11th Feb. (Birth of this WJH#2 lst Qtr 1861 2b 343 or March 3, >> 1861 at Westbourne). Also a marriage of a WJH and Annie New in (20th May >> 1889 St.Andrews) 2nd Qtr 1889 2b 725 Havant) The NEW family of Hambledon >> lived in Farlington during '81 Census, & WJH #2 at White Hart Inn in >> Farlington. >> our William would have been 37. Could be a transcription error. Have >> death cert. for this one cert. for 11 Feb 1891 Waterlooville. Edna >> checked through the '81 Census to see if another WJH fit but none did. >> This particular WJH was buried with his sister Amelia Kate Hellyer in >> 1883, she was 12 at the time and died 1st Qtr '83 2b 283 Havant. She was >> born 1st Qtr 1871 Vol 2b 381 Westbourne actually at Forestside with >> Stanstead, on the 12 Jan 1871, parents William (a labourer) & Sarah >> Hellyer. Kate was living with family in Stoughton north of Westbourne, >> Sussex in 1871 just three months old. This is not my WJH. >> >> Still looking for Great-grandpa.... >> >> Sniffle, >> >> Edna - Ottawa >> >> >> ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Turn over a new leaf - there might be a new ancestor hiding underneath >> Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk >> > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Parish Register transcriptions for some parishes are available on line at > www.knightroots.co.uk - click "parish registers" >