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    1. RE: [Ham] Married Twice
    2. J T Pearson Outdoor Training
    3. Hi Alan Divorce would be highly unlikely at the time. I am reading a book about Horatio Nelson and it gives the reason for him abandoning his wife and not divorcing her for Emma Hamilton as the fact that to get a divorce would have required an act of Parliament! My grandfather divorved in Australia in the 1920's and it was quite unusual even then and was not an easy procedure, if there was any hint that both parties were in agreement then the divorce would not be granted. The normal procedure at the time was for the husband to commit (or appear to commit) adultery (there were apparently women who you could book into a hotel with so that witnesses could swear to adultery (even if it had not occurred). In my grandfather's case he didn't need to resort to this I understand as his wife had already got a boyfriend! Anyway the point is, that you can rule out divorce for your chap. It'd be interesting to know the real reason! Regards Jane -----Original Message----- From: ALAN FOXALL [mailto:alan.foxall@btinternet.com] Sent: Thursday, 29 December 2005 4:46 a.m. To: HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Ham] Married Twice Hi Linda & Tony Yes both the Fathers match on both certificates. Regarding the vows that what I oringally thought, but the first wedding was in Church and the second in the Register Office, so I tend to thing that is unlikely. The only other thought is that they got divorced and the re-married, but as a Seaman I would not have thought they had the money for that. Alan Knightroots@aol.com wrote: Possibly re establishing their vows in church. Presumably the fathers match on both ? (when you mention the age discrepancy just checking, but imagine they would be) Linda & Tony: I would welcome you comments or opinions on the following:- My Great Great Grandfather- Thomas William Foxall seems to have been married twice to the same woman. The first time was on July 6th 1845 @ the Parish Church of alverstoke (Sept Quarter Volume 7 Page 31) on the certificate for this marriage his wife Ann Jones nee Cleverley uses her widows name of Jones. Now nine years later on September 4,1854 @ Alverstoke Register Office (Sept Quarter volume 26 page 629) they seem to tie the knot again, although this time Ann sign in as Ann Cleverley. The major difference in the details of the certificates is Thomas's age is out by six years as he would have been 62 in 1854 and not 56 as shown on the second certificate. At face value there seems to be no reason to go through another wedding , but I would like any suggestion or opinions that might explain this occurance? Can I wish you all a very Happy New Year. Alan Foxall ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== A genealogist NEVER dies he just grows more roots ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== Spring clean your tree and see if you can dust off some new rellies Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk also Hampshire Look up Exchange at http://members.madasafish.com/~caroldolton/index.htm -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.7/180 - Release Date: 23/11/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.7/180 - Release Date: 23/11/2005

    12/29/2005 01:21:17
    1. Winchester Garrison 1861
    2. Colin Harris
    3. Compliments of the Season to everyone, Does anyone know which regiment's) were based in Winchester in 1861? I have found my Gt. Grandfather's brother Andrew GURDLER, together with his wife Eliza (nee HEDGES) and son Henry, listed in the garrison schedules for the 1861 census and would be interested in discovering his regiment (Ancestry do not seem to provide this information). Andrew is something of an enigma as he seems to have later left his wife in England and travelled to Australia in 1874, where he, apparently, changed his name to Richard Andrew GURDLER and married for a second time whilst his first wife was still alive and well back in England, the only explanation I can think of for this is that he set off with the intention of bringing his family out later on but changed his mind when he became involved with his second wife, whom he did not marry until 2 years after their first child was born. Regards Colin Harris -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005

    12/29/2005 02:35:00
    1. Re: [Ham] Winchester Garrison 1861
    2. DAVID PARKER
    3. I can give you two Colin; 1. 47th North Hampshire Regiment 2. 7th Depot Battalion Rifle Brigade When you searched the 1861, did you go back through the previous pages until you reached the senior officer? His regiment is usually named, and it is usually safe to assume that your relative would be in the same regiment. Secondments were not too common in those days. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Harris" <colin.harris4@btinternet.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 4:35 PM Subject: [Ham] Winchester Garrison 1861 > Compliments of the Season to everyone, > > Does anyone know which regiment's) were based in Winchester in 1861? > > I have found my Gt. Grandfather's brother Andrew GURDLER, together with his wife > Eliza (nee HEDGES) and son Henry, listed in the garrison schedules for the 1861 > census and would be interested in discovering his regiment (Ancestry do not seem > to provide this information). > > Andrew is something of an enigma as he seems to have later left his wife in > England and travelled to Australia in 1874, where he, apparently, changed his > name to Richard Andrew GURDLER and married for a second time whilst his first > wife was still alive and well back in England, the only explanation I can think > of for this is that he set off with the intention of bringing his family out > later on but changed his mind when he became involved with his second wife, whom > he did not marry until 2 years after their first child was born. > > Regards > > Colin Harris > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005 > > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > If all our ancestors were in a tree what a BIG tree -house that would be! >

    12/29/2005 01:07:06
    1. Re: [Ham] Winchester Garrison 1861
    2. Sharon Emery
    3. colin, this site might be useful http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/militaryhistory/army/ kind regards Shafron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Harris" <colin.harris4@btinternet.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:35 PM Subject: [Ham] Winchester Garrison 1861 > Compliments of the Season to everyone, > > Does anyone know which regiment's) were based in Winchester in 1861? > > I have found my Gt. Grandfather's brother Andrew GURDLER, together with > his wife > Eliza (nee HEDGES) and son Henry, listed in the garrison schedules for the > 1861 > census and would be interested in discovering his regiment (Ancestry do > not seem > to provide this information). > > Andrew is something of an enigma as he seems to have later left his wife > in > England and travelled to Australia in 1874, where he, apparently, changed > his > name to Richard Andrew GURDLER and married for a second time whilst his > first > wife was still alive and well back in England, the only explanation I can > think > of for this is that he set off with the intention of bringing his family > out > later on but changed his mind when he became involved with his second > wife, whom > he did not marry until 2 years after their first child was born. > > Regards > > Colin Harris > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005 > > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > If all our ancestors were in a tree what a BIG tree -house that would be! > >

    12/29/2005 03:15:26
    1. Re: [Ham] Winchester Garrison 1861
    2. Sharon Emery
    3. Colin this one is better http://www.winchestermilitarymuseums.co.uk/ Regards Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Harris" <colin.harris4@btinternet.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:35 PM Subject: [Ham] Winchester Garrison 1861 > Compliments of the Season to everyone, > > Does anyone know which regiment's) were based in Winchester in 1861? > > I have found my Gt. Grandfather's brother Andrew GURDLER, together with > his wife > Eliza (nee HEDGES) and son Henry, listed in the garrison schedules for the > 1861 > census and would be interested in discovering his regiment (Ancestry do > not seem > to provide this information). > > Andrew is something of an enigma as he seems to have later left his wife > in > England and travelled to Australia in 1874, where he, apparently, changed > his > name to Richard Andrew GURDLER and married for a second time whilst his > first > wife was still alive and well back in England, the only explanation I can > think > of for this is that he set off with the intention of bringing his family > out > later on but changed his mind when he became involved with his second > wife, whom > he did not marry until 2 years after their first child was born. > > Regards > > Colin Harris > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005 > > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > If all our ancestors were in a tree what a BIG tree -house that would be! > >

    12/29/2005 03:17:09