Hi Lynda - not an answer to your riddle but in 1851 the family in Mottisfont is indexed as EAWTE on Ancestry. Birthdate is 1783, birthplace Botley and occupation railway gate keeper. Hope this helps a little. Cheers, Patsy - New Zealand Subject: [HAM] John Cawte and Elizabeth Houghton > Hi All, > I am hoping someone can help me with a marriage record for John Cawte and > Elizabeth Houghton on 14.2.1811 in Alverstoke. > I was originally given this information by a fellow researcher who had > done his research by physically visiting the parishes rather than > relying on internet details. He has John Cawte baptised 26.7.1781 at > Botley as the son of Robert Cawte and Elizabeth Paye. > John was required to administer the estate of his mother (Elizabeth Paye) > who died in 1784. He has John married to Elizabeth Houghton > and living with 2 daughters at Mottisfont in 1851. The 1841 census concurs > with wife and 2 daughters, although dates of birth for John and > Elizabeth do not exactly match. Apparently there is also a 1861 census > record which shows John as a retired gate keeper at Winchester. > I have only found the 1841 record myself. > The problem is that another researcher has also got a John Cawte married > to Elizabeth Houghton but their John was born in 1776 and has > different parents to mine. Is there any way to check the marriage record > to see if it gives the name of John Cawte's father? > Is it possible to find the 1851/1861 census records where (apparently) the > dates of birth better match the dates we have above? > I would be grateful for any advice. > Lynda