FITZMAURICE - REDSTONE - COLE - HALL, Bishops Waltham Hi folks. I hadn't realised that a different branch of my family would be landing me back in HAM , but it seems it does. :-) However, I've reached an impasse here and hoping one or two of you may know my family and can hopefully help me prove/disprove it. Though not apparent in this 1861, the family appears to concentrate itself in Bishops Waltham. However, dad may have been a sailor or traveller because my boy got himself born in Ireland while a brother & sister arrived here. They appear to be quite definitely a local family even though i suspect the Fitzmaurices are a more recent arrival on the scene. 1861 census: St George in East, London MDX; RG9/277 ED.16 Folio 71 pg.72 Sch.24 - hard copy addr.: 157 Cannon st rd., St Gge.. East LON James FITZMAURICE 57 b.c. 1804 Kerry, Ireland Head Mary FITZMAURICE 45 b.c. 1816 St Gge in the East, MDX Wife James FITZMAURICE 26 b.c. 1835 Shadwell, MDX Son TERESA REDSTONE 25 b.c. 1836 Winchester HAM Niece Unm. I naturally figured Teresa's mum was a sibling of James and headed to HAM to find her parents. I did. 1841 census WINCHESTER & HURSLEY, HO107/409 folio 6/15 p.24 addr.: Lower Brook St, St Maurice, Winchester HAM REDSTON, Joseph M 40 1801 HAM REDSTON, Jane F 40 1801 HAM REDSTON, James* M 11 1830 HAM REDSTON, George* M 8 1833 HAM REDSTON, TERESA F 6 1835 HAM REDSTON, Frances F 1 1840 HAM PEARCE, Charles M 59 1782 HAM PEARCE, Charles M 18 1823 HAM The marriage proved it - well, I haven't found the marriage record but their kids were all RC christened and mum's surname was included :-) However, that may not necessarily prove the parents were married. I've come on that before. Josephi REDSTONE & Joannae FITZMORRIS must have married c.1834 as it is clear that Joseph had at least one previous wife. Two children* in the above 1841 census are the product of Joseph's marriage to CATHERINE SHEPHERD. Between the two marriages i find at least 9 kids. Teresa is the 1st for Jane Fitzmaurice. The Luke middle name appears in some of the kids names which verifies this nicely + verifies his earlier marriage to Catherine. Parents: Joannis REDSTONE & Laetitiae Josephum Lucam REDSTONE - b.17 Oct 1794 chr.18 Oct 1794 RC, Newport, HAM ? Deaths Dec 1854 Redstone Joseph *   Winchester 2c 66 Having found my Jane FITZMAURICE, i then searched for a birth and found a very likely one, and given that the name isn't all that common, I'm willing to run with it. Parents: Edward FITZMAURICE & Martha COLE m.9 May 1802 St Marys, Portsea, HAM M062612 Jane FITZMAURICE chr.29 Apr 1801 Bishops Waltham, HAM K146691 William Fitz Morris chr.7 May 1809 Bishops Waltham, HAM j146691 James William FITZMAURICE b.c.1804 Ireland --- but no birth record It has crossed my mind that JW may have been born in Ireland but baptised in B/Waltham a few years later and may be one and the same with William. I haven't found a census for the William brother but have all the censuses for both my JW and his sister Jane My interest in this family is further heightened by the fact that in JW's 1841 census, the family is headed by a MARTHA F/m. which is suggestive of James William & Jane's mum being MARTHA COLE. 1841 census St George in the East, St Paul at H107/697/3; folio/pg 19/31 FITZMAURICE, Martha 60 F born N b.c.1780 FITZMAURICE, James 38 M St Paul born Ire. FITZMAURICE, Mary 26 F St Paul born Y FITZMAURICE, Edward 9 M St Paul Y b.1832 FITZMAURICE, James 7 M St Paul Y b.1834 FITZMAURICE, Thomas 5 M St Paul Y b.1837 FITZMAURICE, Francis 3 M St Paul Y a Martha Cole was born in BW at exactly the right time to be mine. Parents: WILLIAM COLE/s m. JENNY HALL 8 APR 1776 Bishops Waltham MARTHA COLE/s chr.18 AUG 1780 Bishops Waltham HAM K146691 she has 4 siblings to date. I found the transcription to William & Jenny's marriage on KnightRoots :-) Does anyone know this family? Do you know if there are any more Fitzmaurice siblings? Has anyone come on the marr. of Edward Fitzmaurice & Martha Cole? It is possible that Edward F/m is Irish of course however, his wife is definitely local and i suspect that would mean they would marry locally. thanks for taking the time to read this. le durachd Fionnghal