Thank you Edna. he's there http://www.angelfire.com/de/BobSanders/HMSWellington81.html seems he was between bouts in clink! His record shows he was on board the Duke of Wellington - and behaving himself - between 1 Apr & 21 May tying in with the 1881 census I was lucky, that page is torn and he's in just below the tear. Francis J. CLARKE, Unm. 23, Male b. Bethnal Green, MDX; Able Seaman :-) Fionnghal Bob Sanders '81 Ships in Port site -- http://www.angelfire.com/de/BobSanders/81Intro.html Edna - Ottawa