Hi there Thanks for your thoughts. So far I have checked Ancestry, Find my Past, Family Search and all the census results as well as other people trees .... no luck. :( I have just sent awa for a copy of Mary Russell's birth certificate as she was the youngest and the format had changed by then. It takes about three weeks for them to arrive here. How do you check Parish Chests and the other less common sources of information? I have thought about sorting out all the Romsey Russells and work out who belongs to who from all the record but is will be very time consuming. we went to the LDS on Friday night but they were closed as their internet was not working. What are the names of the adjacent census areas? Thanks for your help Pat Darwin Australia We are here to change the world with small acts of thoughtfulness done daily rather than with one great breakthrough - Rabbi Harold Kushner Please consider the environment before printing this email.