You could order the films in at your local LDS family history centre Peter as an alternative. Hope this helps,Linda and Tony -----Original Message----- From: peterj.martin@lineone.net [mailto:peterj.martin@lineone.net] Sent: 02 November 2009 09:28 To: knightroots@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [HAM] Mary Caesar Hi Linda & Tony, I will almost certainly have t visit the record office at some point bu asI live in North Buckinghamshire as I was hoping that some kind soul might help me gather some more information as I build up a picture. Regards Peter

Hampshire Archives and Local Studies Contact Details Hampshire Record Office Sussex Street Winchester SO23 8TH England Tel: 01962 846154 Fax: 01962 878681 You can look at the original parish records here yourself Peter or the fiche relating to Silchester. Further details and directions by looking at www.google.co.uk and putting in a search for Winchester Local Studies. Linda and Tony

Listers, I am trying to trace the family of Mary Caesar. She married Benjamin Lamden in Silchester on 29 Nov 1804. Benjamin was baptised in Silchester (1781) so Mary may or may not come from the parish and of course Mary may not be her first name. If anyone has access to the original registers I would be grateful for a lookup to see if any other information is available. Also grateful for any [additional] information. TVM Peter

Dear Listers, I am trying to uncover further information on the family of Caroline MILLER who married Henry INMAN in Boldre in April 1882.This family can be found living in Bath Road Lymington in the 1891 census Prior to this Caroline MILLER was living at Bridge house Boldre with her sister Amelia MILLER where she was working a the manageress of a public house. Caroline's married name at that time was LeSieur and she was a widow.Her daughter was living there too under the name of Florence Le Sieur. I belive that Caroline Millers father was an Architect called Henry MILLER and Caroline's mother was Ann Caroline Miller. Ann Caroline MILLER appears to have been living in the Toll House, Brading, Hampshire in 1881 where she is a widow aged 50/56 ? In addition to her sister Amelia Caroline seems to have had a younger brother Francis Henry Miller born in 1882. If anyone can shed any light on this particular branch of the Miller family I would be delighted to here from you. Thanks for reading this far and thanks in advance for your assistance Cheers Ian in Hong Kong

Thanks kindly, a dear lady just sent me the 1911 for my Great-grandfather and wife living with daughter and family in Southsea. (;-)) Edna - Ottawa --- Would someone please check George Knight on 1911 Census (1842-1924) & wife Harriet living in Waterloo(ville) or Southsea area. He was a RN Pensioner. With appreciation, Edna.

Would someone please check George Knight on 1911 Census (1842-1924) & wife Harriet living in Waterloo(ville) or Southsea area. He was a RN Pensioner. With appreciation, Edna - Ottawa

Hello list, I am researching the PIKE (PYKE) family who link to a distant ancestral cousin, and have found a marriage for Thomas PIKE in 1868 Westminster, London. He married Clara Lydia NEWMAN born Jun Qtr 1846 Redenham (Civil parish Fyfield) apparently on the marriage cert it has her father as a Henry NEWMAN, but she is not on the 1851 census. I believe that she is possibly the daughter of Elizabeth MORRELL (1841)/SAVAGE (1851) nee BURRES. Elizabeth married John MORRELL 10 Aug 1823 in Appleshaw, John died in 1842 Elizabeth re-married Charles SAVAGE in 1848 and Clara Lydia Morrell (Census 1851) was born between those dates, but there is no birth entry or a further mention of a Clara Morrell after 1851. I was wondering if this sounded familiar to anyone or if there was an order for a Male NEWMAN to pay for a child called Clara Lydia Here's hoping Bob -- Genealogy Web Database http://www.bobhutchins.me.uk Bob recommends Linux Ubuntu 9.04

My g-grandfather's sister Emily Payne married Sidney Henry Besant of Mottisfont (nr Romsey) in 1915. Two children, Douglas E (died young) and Arthur S. Arthur m Joan M Rolfe at Romsey dist in 1948. Sidney seems to be bap Wimborne dist 1884. Is there anyone who has any connections ? Francis Auckland, NZ

Hi Listers, I am looking for any info on the above couple and their family. Frederick wren was born 1857, Millbrook and Eliza was born 1855, Nursling Their children were Florence May, Frederick William K, Albert Victor and Alfred. Is anyone related to this family, look forward to hearing from anyone who has any interest Regards Maria _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with your friends through Messenger on your mobile http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/

Stephen Think I may have solved the problem. I've traced Thomas right through from Ramsgate to Newtown, Bembridge, Shanklin, Ryde, Hastings and then to "Caslek Bay". The important bit of information is the number alongside the Name in the "Station removed to" or "Station removed from" column. This is a reference to the "Folio". The folio number is on the top left corner of every other page, so on Page 195 the folio number is 99. Now if you look at Page 4 of the whole document you will find an index of stations "in England". Folio 137 is allocated to Wall End station, but this was abolished in 1833 (see page 272). So here it seemed like my theory fell down, because there is no record for Thomas on Folio 137. Then the penny dropped. This document covers only Stations in England. There must be another similar document for Stations in Ireland. It seemed odd that there were very few transfer to Caslek Bay, in fact I only noticed one, a John South on the same page. Then I did some "googling" for Caslek Bay, and eventually tried "Casleh Bay", and Bingo. Casleh Bay is in Ireland and is also known as Costello in Co Galway. You can find a reference on the Coastguards of Yesteryear (an Irish Coastguards site) at http://www.coastguardsofyesteryear.org/articles.php?article_id=96 I'm afraid from there the trail goes cold as far as I am concerned, I don't know if the Irish Coastguard records are available anywhere. If not perhaps Tony Daly on the aforementioned site can help. Hope this all helps. I may be a bit geeky, but I love following up these trails, even when I don't have any particular interest myself. As an aside while looking through the ADM/175 file I did find quite by chance a possible lead for the future for me, I just spotted an "Agnew" from Donaghadee who was stationed in Shanklin, Agnew is one of my wife's family from Northern Ireland. Cheers Jon Baker -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Shafer [mailto:shpcount@earthlink.net] Sent: 19 October 2009 22:03 To: Jon Baker Cc: chriscjbartlett@hotmail.com; Creal, Michael Subject: Re: [HAM] enquiry re place name Caslek Bay (?) Hello, Jon It's on or about p 195 of the pdf under the Hastings station . Transfer date is 18 June 1842. Thanks for all your help. You should know that just this afternoon I got an email from my cousin in England who was aware of my Crea = Creal hypothesis but hadn't had a chance to say explicitly that by the records he has seen Thomas Creal the lighthouse keeper at the 1861 census was on active duty in the RN from 1823 to 1857. He could thus not be the Thomas Crea who was in the Coast Guard 1836-1842 (possibly earlier and possibly after 1842 also). My cousin has not had a chance to send me the documents about Thomas Creal's service to convince me that admiralty records place him in the Navy for all those 34 years. He's probably right. Waiting for them to come, however, allows me to cherish a little longer the faint hope that Thomas Crea the Coast Guard boatman at Hastings 1841 and Thomas Creal the lighthouse keeper 1861 are the same person. I like that because it gives me "fixes" on him, not because one branch of service is better than another. If they are the same person, however, I still have to account for a son born about 1834; that's a sticky wicket. Is it possible that admiralty records could get blurred so that service in CG would not be distinguished from Naval service? Did people ever cycle Navy to CG back to Navy? I tried sending something to the list saying how helpful you had been causing me to revisit the census, but it bounced. Don't know whether it was too long or the "footer" interfered. What is the "footer," anyway? ccs to Creal relations following this case Cheers, Stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Baker" <baker.jon@sky.com> To: "'Stephen Shafer'" <shpcount@earthlink.net> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 4:22 PM Subject: RE: [HAM] enquiry re place name Caslek Bay (?) > Hi Stephen > Glad to be of help. > > I downloaded ADM 175/6 (as it was free), can you give me a pointer on what > page "Caslek Bay" occurs. > > I have some Coast Guard folks as well, although a bit later, > coincidentally > also at Bembridge. > > Thanks > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Shafer [mailto:shpcount@earthlink.net] > Sent: 19 October 2009 14:15 > To: Jon Baker > Subject: Re: [HAM] enquiry re place name Caslek Bay (?) > > Hello, Jon Baker > I am very grateful for your inquiry, because it showed me you had found > "Thomas Crea" in the regular 1841 English census, yet I had not when > using > ancestry.com as a search machine. I had only found him through that > special coast guard file in genuki whose url was posted in the HAM board a > while ago. When I looked again using ancestry.com this time "Thomas > Crea" > did come up just as you said, as a Coast Guardsman in Hastings. (Also > there > > was his son James, aged 7. I don't know what to make of James) > > > As to your question about "Caslek Bay." That comes from the file ADM > 175/6 > in the National Archives, which I downloaded last week to another PC much > more capacious than mine here (it took two hours to do it, as the file is > almost 700 mB). > >

Can anyone help with the correct name of my Gr Gr Gr Grandmother Mercy Park or Parker BORN: Abt.1771 Martryr Worthy Hampshire England. MARRIED: Charles White 18 October 1790 in Martryr Worthy Hampshire England. Died: 5 November 1828. Several contributors to Ancestry have Mercy's maiden name as Park, while others have her name as Parker. This makes things quite difficult to follow up as both are quite common names. IGI Searches in both names reveal the identical information including the dates listed above, so I am in quite a quandary. Rick

Rick, According to the Hampshire marriage index her name was Parker. I should also have said the date you have is correct. Regards Peter Subject: [HAM] PARK or PARKER Can anyone help with the correct name of my Gr Gr Gr Grandmother Mercy Park or Parker BORN: Abt.1771 Martryr Worthy Hampshire England. MARRIED: Charles White 18 October 1790 in Martryr Worthy Hampshire England. Died: 5 November 1828. Several contributors to Ancestry have Mercy's maiden name as Park, while others have her name as Parker. This makes things quite difficult to follow up as both are quite common names. IGI Searches in both names reveal the identical information including the dates listed above, so I am in quite a quandary. Rick

Hi Rick, When looking at IGI records on familysearch, you need to distinguish between submitted records and extracted records. Submitted records are ones that have been submitted by other researchers. These are not checked by LDS and are quite often inaccurate. Extracted records are those that have been uploaded by LDS from parish records and these can be viewed on microfilm/fiche at your local Family History Centre. All of the entries for Mercy Park appear to have been "submitted" and cannot therefore be substantiated. There is one entry for Mercy Parker which is an extracted record and therefore more reliable. It states that she was the daughter of Isaac and Mercy Parker and she was christened 3 Sept 1769 at Stoke Charity in Hampshire. Whether this is your relation or not I cannot say, but out of all the entries listed I would think it is the most likely Lynda > Can anyone help with the correct name of my Gr Gr Gr Grandmother Mercy Park > or Parker > > BORN: Abt.1771 Martryr Worthy Hampshire England. > > MARRIED: Charles White 18 October 1790 in Martryr Worthy Hampshire England. > > Died: 5 November 1828. > > Several contributors to Ancestry have Mercy's maiden name as Park, while > others have her name as Parker. > This makes things quite difficult to follow up as both are quite common > names. > IGI Searches in both names reveal the identical information including the dates listed above, so I am in quite a > quandary. > > Rick > _________________________________________________________________ Chat to your friends for free on selected mobiles http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/

My g-grandfather's brother and sister Thomas & Ellen Payne married brother and sister Annie & Frederick Thomas in 1902 and 1896.  They were children of Charles Thomas, bricklayer of Walkford.   I wonder if anyone has any interest in this family? I have found the two Freds and families in 1911 and hope to track them further forward but the names are not uncommon so it starts to get a bit speculative.   Any help appreciated.   Francis Auckland, NZ

Sometimes, when a sailor has completed his RN service, he transfers to the Coastguard service. I have an ancestor who did just that and one of his postings was to a Coastguard ship. I was able to obtain his service record through a researcher, but you need some facts to go on - dob, marriage, places, census info etc. This was some time ago so I'm not sure if she is still doing this, but it is worth a try. Contact me off list for details. Vicki

A great site: http://www.portsmouthdockyard.org.uk/ Edna ~ Ottawa

Try the Ships List -- you may find her. Edna - Ottawa

Following the idea broached a few minutes ago, that "Caslek Bay" could be the name of a ship rather than of a place, I found there was once in the RN an HMS Cashel, but no more info on her in wiki. I'll go to the big book by Colledge and Warlow which they used to make the wiki list. Cashel Bay is a bay in Connemara. "Cashel" would be itself an odd name for a ship, as the town of that name is inland, in Co Tipperary. Updates may follow. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Baker" <baker.jon@sky.com> To: "'Stephen Shafer'" <shpcount@earthlink.net>; <hampshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:54 PM Subject: RE: [HAM] enquiry re place name Caslek Bay (?) > Stephen > I was going to suggest Selsey until I saw that you already mentioned it. I > suggest therefore that you refer to the list of Coastguard stations > provided > by Stan Waight on genuki: > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/Coastguards/Table.html > > Regards > > Jon Baker > > -----Original Message----- > Hello, List, > Trying to trace Coast Guard career of possible ancestor who died at > Portsmouth in 1870s. In 1841 he went from the station called Hastings, in > Hastings, to one whose name looks like "Caslek Bay" less likely "Castle > Bay." I think this was in West Sussex or eastern Hants, near the > stations > at Chichester, Selsey Bill and Pagham. Does anybody know a place name > that > might fit, along the coast and harbors of this region? > subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks, Jon and Edna and others who replied. No list of stations (either of the past or of today) that I have seen has one whose name much resembles what I deciphered as Caskel Bay. I could not download or open the map that Edna suggested, but believe it is of current stations, less likely to solve the problem than an older list. I think some stations were probably not known by their geographic location. Perhaps this was a since-discontinued station, most likely in West Sussex, near some coastal location whose name is still known to us. Alternative: it is the name of a ship, not a land-based station. For example, several men were posted to "Enchantress" during this decade. I can find no location named that, but Google turns up HMS Enchantress. Thanks for talking about this with me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Baker" <baker.jon@sky.com> To: "'Stephen Shafer'" <shpcount@earthlink.net>; <hampshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:54 PM Subject: RE: [HAM] enquiry re place name Caslek Bay (?) > Stephen > I was going to suggest Selsey until I saw that you already mentioned it. I > suggest therefore that you refer to the list of Coastguard stations > provided > by Stan Waight on genuki: > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/Coastguards/Table.html > > Regards > > Jon Baker > > -----Original Message----- > Hello, List, > Trying to trace Coast Guard career of possible ancestor who died at > Portsmouth in 1870s. In 1841 he went from the station called Hastings, in > Hastings, to one whose name looks like "Caslek Bay" less likely "Castle > Bay." I think this was in West Sussex or eastern Hants, near the > stations > at Chichester, Selsey Bill and Pagham. Does anybody know a place name > that > might fit, along the coast and harbors of this region? > subject and the body of the message > >

Stephen I was going to suggest Selsey until I saw that you already mentioned it. I suggest therefore that you refer to the list of Coastguard stations provided by Stan Waight on genuki: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/Coastguards/Table.html Regards Jon Baker -----Original Message----- Hello, List, Trying to trace Coast Guard career of possible ancestor who died at Portsmouth in 1870s. In 1841 he went from the station called Hastings, in Hastings, to one whose name looks like "Caslek Bay" less likely "Castle Bay." I think this was in West Sussex or eastern Hants, near the stations at Chichester, Selsey Bill and Pagham. Does anybody know a place name that might fit, along the coast and harbors of this region? subject and the body of the message