hi Bob, Can't say about adoption papers, However, a lot of unofficial adopting went on, both girls needing their illegitimate kids cared for, often working to try and cover the cost of having the child looked after, or amongst families themselves, like granny or auntie bringing up an illegitimate grandchild, niece, nephew &c as their own, even categorising them as son, dau, gr'son &c in censuses. however, that said, as far as no response to an individual posted here, could it not be that no-one recognises him? I've lots of family that i've posted enquiries about and no-one responded simply because i've the misfortune to be following roots that no-one else is working on or shares. :-( What makes you suspect he may be French? le durachd fionnghal > Unsurprisingly, I did not get any > responses to my enquiry about Joseph Strang in my posting of > 19 Nov. > I am now wondering whether he was actually a French boy > adopted by a British couple. > Do there exist any records (official or otherwise) of > adoptions in southern English counties around 1830-1840? > Bob K.

As adoption did not become official until 1927, there would be no records for that time frame Regards Linda & Tony Unsurprisingly, I did not get any responses to my enquiry about Joseph Strang in my posting of 19 Nov. Do there exist any records (official or otherwise) of adoptions in southern English counties around 1830-1840? Bob K.

As adoption did not become official until 1927, there would be no records for that time frame Regards Linda & Tony Unsurprisingly, I did not get any responses to my Do there exist any records (official or otherwise) of adoptions in southern English counties around 1830-1840? Bob K.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8363341.stm Edna - Ottawa

thanks for that, and Lynda also, certs would be cheap now the way the pound and the aussie dollar are. Unfortunately Alfred Henry is not one of mine, and my great uncles wife wasn`t born in Portsmouth according to FreeBMD. JA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hampshire OPC" <hampshireopc@btinternet.com> To: <hampshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [HAM] Funnell > > Probably by parting with some $Oz! > > Send for Ada's birth certificate (now you have the ref no) which will give > the name of both parents and then search for a marriage for them. > You should then be able to pick them up in the 1911 census and back from > there. > Regards > Linda & Tony > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.75/2516 - Release Date: 11/20/09 19:43:00

A chance browse on Freebmd looking for an aunts birth year(which I found) has sparked another mystery or 2 for me. an Ada Austen(no relation as far as I know) was born in Portsmouth in mid 1922. her mothers` maiden name was given as Funnell. By chance my grandmothers` oldest half brother, married a Funnell in the Whitechapel area of London in 1915 having spent much of his youth in Portsmouth. has anyone got any clues about how I could research the Funnell clan. Regards Joe Austen in a very sultry OZ

Hi Joe, There is a marriage on freeBMD in Portsmouth in 1906. Alfred Henry Austen married Gladys Ada Funnell. This is most likely to be the couple you are looking for, bearing in mind their daughter was then named Ada. This couple actually had at least 4 children - Leslie E b.1912, Ida D b.1913, Alfred D b.1917 and Ada b.1922 all in Portsmouth. They possibly had other children but before 1911 the mother's maiden name isn't shown. Of course whether this family tie up with your relations in Whitechapel is another mystery for you! Hope this info is of help Lynda , > From: austengenealogy@iprimus.com.au > > A chance browse on Freebmd looking for an aunts birth year(which I found) has sparked another mystery or 2 for me. an Ada Austen(no relation as far as I know) was born in Portsmouth in mid 1922. her mothers` maiden name was given as Funnell. > By chance my grandmothers` oldest half brother, married a Funnell in the Whitechapel area of London in 1915 having spent much of his youth in Portsmouth. has anyone got any clues about how I could research the Funnell clan. > _________________________________________________________________ Use Hotmail to send and receive mail from your different email accounts http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394592/direct/01/

Probably by parting with some $Oz! Send for Ada's birth certificate (now you have the ref no) which will give the name of both parents and then search for a marriage for them. You should then be able to pick them up in the 1911 census and back from there. Regards Linda & Tony -----Original Message----- From: hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JOE Austen Sent: 21 November 2009 10:48 To: hampshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [HAM] Funnell has anyone got any clues about how I could research the Funnell clan. Regards Joe Austen in a very sultry OZ

Can anyone with intimate knowledge of the Portsea area in the period 1830-1850 help me trace an ancestor named Joseph Strang? He was born at Clichy in France about 1829, to John and Sophia Strang. Later documents say that John was a surgeon or doctor. Family tradition is that Joseph came from Brighton. I strongly suspect that Joseph was the son of a Scots naval surgeon named John Strang and his wife Sophia, who lived at Hampshire Terrace, Portsea, Portsmouth at the time of the 1841 census. Joseph, although aged only about 12, was not recorded as an occupant of John's house in that census, nor have I found any evidence of Joseph being with John at later censuses. The naval John did finally live in retirement in Brighton. Bob K.

I do have Joseph Shave 1786 Christchurch married to Mary Harvey 1788 Sopley. Any good? I have details of descendents. Barry barry@bazzer.info ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Shave" <Andrew.Shave@trimite.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: [HAM] Shave History 1781 to 1827. >I am looking for information regarding Joseph Shave born circa 1781 at >Christchurch. In particular I am interested in finding any information >regarding his parents or brothers and sisters. > >

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Chancery Pleadings C 1/1336/70-71 (1553/1555 records: William, grandson and heir of Margaret wife of William Bulkeley (v) Arthur Bulkeley - detention of deeds regarding mansion of Gorley and lands in Fordingbridge (Hampshire). I have records of two William Bulkeleys as possible grandfathers: (1) William Bulkeley (born 1470/1475)son Charles son William Bulkeley of Ayton Justice of Chester. Wife named Isabell -surname possibly Gascoigne. (2) William Bulkeley (born 1518) son Robert son Charles son William Bulkeley Justice of Chester. Wife named Jane daughter Nicholas Luke. No mention made of a wife named Margaret. Query: Is it possible that Margaret was a second wife or is there another unknown William Bulkeley. Can anyone resolve the puzzle? Paul Bulkley

It would perhaps be useful to give a date of the chancery pleadings referred to. What is the reasoning for the "suspicion" that the Buckley and Bulkeley families are the same? Both have long pedigrees in their own rights. Where is Sakisbury? Do you mean Salisbury in Wiltshire or Sarisbury in Hampshire - the only other Hampshire connection seems to be Farnborough. Rgds Linda & Tony -----Original Message----- From: hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of paul bulkley Sent: 09 November 2009 14:39 Chancery Pleadings C 1/1107/18-21 include the following: William Buckley (Bulkeley) and wife Alice daughter and heir to William Selwoode alias Knowles(v) Margery Irysshe late wife of said Selwoode - detention of deeds per land in Sakisbury, Coombe Bissett, Wantage, Childrey, and Farnborough. I suspect William Bulkeley is closely related to John Bulkeley of Letcombe Regis. Paul Bulkley

Chancery Pleadings C 1/1107/18-21 include the following: William Buckley (Bulkeley) and wife Alice daughter and heir to William Selwoode alias Knowles(v) Margery Irysshe late wife of said Selwoode - detention of deeds per land in Sakisbury, Coombe Bissett, Wantage, Childrey, and Farnborough. I suspect William Bulkeley is closely related to John Bulkeley of Letcombe Regis. Any information of above family would be appreciated. Paul Bulkley

April We have William Pressey 1793 Redlynch m Charlotte Barnes 1793 Redlynch. They had 6 children. Could there be a connection? Sandy sandy@bazzer.info Subject: [HAM] HENRY PHILIP PRESSEY > Henry Philip Pressey born 17/4/1878 at 16. Town St, Landport, > Portsmouth. > > Parents were James Thomas Pressey (Blacksmith) and Jane nee Barnes who > married in St. Marys, Portsea 1/9/1861 > > Henry became a Maste Mariner and worked for the War Department Fleet. He > died 1946 age 68 years. > > Is there anyone else in the Portsmouth area researching Henry and his > parents? > > Thank you and kind regards. > > April nee Morris/Pressy. New Forest > > > > > ------------------------------- >request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message

Henry Philip Pressey born 17/4/1878 at 16. Town St, Landport, Portsmouth. Parents were James Thomas Pressey (Blacksmith) and Jane nee Barnes who married in St. Marys, Portsea 1/9/1861 Henry became a Maste Mariner and worked for the War Department Fleet. He died 1946 age 68 years. Is there anyone else in the Portsmouth area researching Henry and his parents? Thank you and kind regards. April nee Morris/Pressy. New Forest

I would like to make a personal tribute to the following (mainly) Hampshire men and one Lancashire woman - all of whom have a place in my family tree - and who gave their lives during the WW1 and WW2- and to who I owe so much. Sadly as I progress with my family history research, this list seems to grow longer every year. In remembrance of my Gt Gt Uncles: Sgt Francis G GARLAND, 154th Heavy Battery, Hants RGA, KiA, Ypres - 2 Mar 1917 *Pte Albert H GARLAND, 2nd Btn Hants Regt, KiA, Gallipoli - 29 Apr 1915 *Gunner Frederick H GARLAND, 25th Siege Bty, RGA, died of wounds 16 Sep 1916 *Gunner Robert H GARLAND, Royal Marine Artillery, died of wounds 28 Sep 1918 (* brothers - sons of William Bown GARLAND and Kate SILLENCE of Michelmersh, Hants) Also remembering the following men who feature in my Family Tree: L/Cpl Henry C SHARP, 1st Btn Hants Regt - died 23 Oct 1916 Gunner Frederick C ANDREWS, Royal Marine Artillery, KiA - 31 May 1916 - Battle of Jutland Gunner Thomas E ANDREWS, RFA - died 20 Feb 1915 Staff Sgt Edgar WH BARFOOT, Army Service Corps - awarded MSM - KiA - 23 Oct 1918 Pte John CHURCHILL, 21st Btn Middx Regt, KiA - 18 Sep 1916 Pte Albert G EFEMY, 13th Btn Middx Regt - died of wounds 28 May 1917 Pte Charlie HAMMOND, 14th Btn Hants Regt - KiA - 3 Sep 1916 Pte Edward J DIDYMUS (aka HEWITT), 1st 8th Btn Middx Regt - KiA - 12 Apr 1918 (semi-professional footballer) Pte Herbert F HOGLEY, 2nd Btn Duke of Wellington's (West Riding) Regt - died 23 Jun 1918 Pte George W JONES, 4th Btn Middx Regt - died 30 Jun 1915 Pte Augustus J TUBB, 1st Btn Hants Regt, KiA - 28 Mar 1918 Pte Cecil H SHEPPARD, 7th Btn East Surrey Regt, KiA - 13 Oct 1915 Sgt Henry F TOSDEVIN, HQ Staff 24th Bde, Royal Garrison Artillery - died 21 Jul 1915 Pte Louis E HEATH, 15th Btn Hants Regt - died 8 Jun 1917 Pte Frederick SPARSHOTT, 15th Btn Hants Regt - died 14 Jun 1917 Pte Leonard LAKELAND, 16th Btn Royal Welsh Fusiliers - died 4 Nov 1918 (7 days before the Armisitice...) Pte Wallace SODO, 2nd Btn East Lancashre Regt - died 5 Mar 1917 Spr Harry James WEST, 509th Field Coy, Royal Engineers - died 21 Mar 1918 Also remembering the following men who survived, including two of my Great Uncles: Pte Charles J DIDYMUS, 7th Btn Hants Regt - Aden and India Pte Alfred L DIDYMUS, 138 Field Ambulance, RAMC - awarded the Military Medal And: 2nd Lt Herbert Woodford ORTON, 14th Brigade, 1st Dorset Regt - survived but blinded in one eye.... 2nd Lt Ernest Percy SHARP - Hampshire Regt - survived CSM John CLETON - 2nd Btn Royal Warwickshire Regt - wounded and gassed, but survived Pte Albert Victor BEVIS - 3rd Hampshire Regt - survived Pte James SODO - Royal Welsh Fusiliers - survived, but due to horrendous gun shot wounds to both legs, ended up having one leg amuptated... Pte Albert Victor BEVIS - 2nd Hants Regt, but deserted and joined the 9th South African Infantry - very "colourful" army career - ended up living in South Africa! And finally a special mention to a very brave lady: Sister Annie JOBLING, Territorial Army Nursing Service, died aboard the British Steamship "Hoihow", torpedoed by German submarine off Mauritius on 2 Jul 1943. Most of these people were unknown to me, but they are often remembered and will never be forgotten. As always, I have been wearing my RED POPPY with pride. Alison SMITH (nee Hargreaves), Swindon, UK

May they all rest in Peace and we can only hope that one day there will be no more wars. With appreciation to them all. Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ali Smith (nee Hargreaves)" <skylar@tiscali.co.uk> To: <hampshire@rootsweb.com>; <eng-southampton@rootsweb.com>; <eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 8:43 AM Subject: [HAM] In Remembrance - My Tribute I would like to make a personal tribute to the following (mainly) Hampshire men and one Lancashire woman - all of whom have a place in my family tree - and who gave their lives during the WW1 and WW2- and to who I owe so much. Sadly as I progress with my family history research, this list seems to grow longer every year. In remembrance of my Gt Gt Uncles: Sgt Francis G GARLAND, 154th Heavy Battery, Hants RGA, KiA, Ypres - 2 Mar 1917 *Pte Albert H GARLAND, 2nd Btn Hants Regt, KiA, Gallipoli - 29 Apr 1915 *Gunner Frederick H GARLAND, 25th Siege Bty, RGA, died of wounds 16 Sep 1916 *Gunner Robert H GARLAND, Royal Marine Artillery, died of wounds 28 Sep 1918 (* brothers - sons of William Bown GARLAND and Kate SILLENCE of Michelmersh, Hants) Also remembering the following men who feature in my Family Tree: L/Cpl Henry C SHARP, 1st Btn Hants Regt - died 23 Oct 1916 Gunner Frederick C ANDREWS, Royal Marine Artillery, KiA - 31 May 1916 - Battle of Jutland Gunner Thomas E ANDREWS, RFA - died 20 Feb 1915 Staff Sgt Edgar WH BARFOOT, Army Service Corps - awarded MSM - KiA - 23 Oct 1918 Pte John CHURCHILL, 21st Btn Middx Regt, KiA - 18 Sep 1916 Pte Albert G EFEMY, 13th Btn Middx Regt - died of wounds 28 May 1917 Pte Charlie HAMMOND, 14th Btn Hants Regt - KiA - 3 Sep 1916 Pte Edward J DIDYMUS (aka HEWITT), 1st 8th Btn Middx Regt - KiA - 12 Apr 1918 (semi-professional footballer) Pte Herbert F HOGLEY, 2nd Btn Duke of Wellington's (West Riding) Regt - died 23 Jun 1918 Pte George W JONES, 4th Btn Middx Regt - died 30 Jun 1915 Pte Augustus J TUBB, 1st Btn Hants Regt, KiA - 28 Mar 1918 Pte Cecil H SHEPPARD, 7th Btn East Surrey Regt, KiA - 13 Oct 1915 Sgt Henry F TOSDEVIN, HQ Staff 24th Bde, Royal Garrison Artillery - died 21 Jul 1915 Pte Louis E HEATH, 15th Btn Hants Regt - died 8 Jun 1917 Pte Frederick SPARSHOTT, 15th Btn Hants Regt - died 14 Jun 1917 Pte Leonard LAKELAND, 16th Btn Royal Welsh Fusiliers - died 4 Nov 1918 (7 days before the Armisitice...) Pte Wallace SODO, 2nd Btn East Lancashre Regt - died 5 Mar 1917 Spr Harry James WEST, 509th Field Coy, Royal Engineers - died 21 Mar 1918 Also remembering the following men who survived, including two of my Great Uncles: Pte Charles J DIDYMUS, 7th Btn Hants Regt - Aden and India Pte Alfred L DIDYMUS, 138 Field Ambulance, RAMC - awarded the Military Medal And: 2nd Lt Herbert Woodford ORTON, 14th Brigade, 1st Dorset Regt - survived but blinded in one eye.... 2nd Lt Ernest Percy SHARP - Hampshire Regt - survived CSM John CLETON - 2nd Btn Royal Warwickshire Regt - wounded and gassed, but survived Pte Albert Victor BEVIS - 3rd Hampshire Regt - survived Pte James SODO - Royal Welsh Fusiliers - survived, but due to horrendous gun shot wounds to both legs, ended up having one leg amuptated... Pte Albert Victor BEVIS - 2nd Hants Regt, but deserted and joined the 9th South African Infantry - very "colourful" army career - ended up living in South Africa! And finally a special mention to a very brave lady: Sister Annie JOBLING, Territorial Army Nursing Service, died aboard the British Steamship "Hoihow", torpedoed by German submarine off Mauritius on 2 Jul 1943. Most of these people were unknown to me, but they are often remembered and will never be forgotten. As always, I have been wearing my RED POPPY with pride. Alison SMITH (nee Hargreaves), Swindon, UK For FREE online parish register transcriptions and other information visit www.knightroots.co.uk. Please trim ALL messages to a minimum & remove the footer as this is added automatically at the end of all messages. Thanks To subscribe or unsubscribe please send a message to hampshire-request@rootsweb.com with the appropriate subject header.Thanks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers, I found this very interesting site last week about Pamber Heath and Tadley Hampshire. It's full of great photos and info from days gone by. The book by Raymond West is well worth buying too. http://www.pamberheatharchives.org.uk/index.htm Enjoy! Julie Green Get 50 music downloads at no cost, yours to keep with a 14 day trial of Music for Life; play games and find out how you can recycle and earn - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/services

Hi everyone I'm new to the list so I'm posting my interest in this area. I'm researching my wife's paternal family, the Derbyshires who originate in Lancashire. I have Thomas Ward DERBYSHIRE, born in Liverpool in 1874. He joined the 12th Lancers, the regiment then being posted to the Hartley Wintney area where in 1898 he married local girl, Annie HULFORD. After being discharged from the army he and his family settled in this area. Both he and Annie died in 1955. They had the following children - Elsie Ann b 1899 Thomas Walter b 1904 Richard William b 1908 Daisy Lillian b 1909 Sidney George b 1911 (my wife's father) Francis J b 1913 Sidney George (George) joined the army as a boy soldier in 1926 and enlisted in the Royal Army Service Corps in 1929. He served in Shanghai, Egypt, Palestine, was part of the BEF in WW2, North Africa, Greece and Crete where he captured in 1941. He spent the rest of the war as a PoW. I'd like to make contact with anyone researching this family which I have traced back to 1764 in Lancashire. Best wishes Peter