Chris There are a couple of articles that I found in google that may help a little, one unfinished article by another member of the CSSC, including some pictures. Just try Southampton Central Baths or Southampton Swimming Pool History in your search - maybe something more imaginative will throw up more hits. Below are some of the links I found, nothing very substantial but maybe a help: http://www.southamptondiving.co.uk/documentation/A_personal_History_of_Divin g_in_Southampton.doc http://www.jakesimpkin.org/ArticlesResearch/TheLido/tabid/83/Default.aspx http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/lidos/message/172 The only memories I have are of driving along the road that now passes the Western Quay car parks past Pirelli and seeing the pool on the left hand (landward) side of the road as I was heading down to the IW ferry or sometimes we used to go past the pool on the way to or from The Dell back in the 70s. Regards Jon Baker Dorset OPC Co-ordinator -----Original Message----- At long last I'm writing up my childhood memories and part of those pertain to the main swimming pools in Southampton in the 1960s and I wonder if anyone on this list can help.

With genealogy, you sometimes have to do the back stroke! Merry Christmas! Edna - sunny and frosty Ottawa ---

Karen - yes - they were the ones. As you entered the building, ahead of you was a window that allowed you to see the bottom of the diving area of the pool and, in the distance - the floor of the pool ramping up towards the main swimming area. People would often swim down to the window to wave at the people coming in. There was talk of a crack appearing in the window which needed the pool to be closed for repairs - but I don't know how true this was. There were one or two accidents with people hitting one of the lower diving boards on the way down from the high ones - the resulting redish tinge to the water was an interesting distraction. I don't know of any fatalities but I expect today's "health & Safety" brigade would have stopped the use of the higher boards. I was certainly not brave enough to go to the top - let alone jump/dive off. By the shallow end there was another, much smaller, pool - for beginners. A gymnasium was part of the building because, when I was a member of the Southampton City Swimming Club (along with David Haller et al) we used it for circuit training before using the pool. I'd like to know the year these pools were open and who opened them - I think it was Brian Phelps. Chris -----Original Message----- From: hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen Lynn Sent: 22 December 2009 11:02 To: hampshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HAM] FW: Request for info about Southampton Swimming Pools Were the "newer" baths the ones at Western Esplanade - were they Southampton Central baths? I can remember driving past them when we went shopping in Southampton, and you could look into them as they had a glass 'wall' so you could see the diving boards? I can remember them from the mid-60s (?) through to the 70s or 80s (?). I presume they were demolished when the West Quay development was built? Karen

Were the "newer" baths the ones at Western Esplanade - were they Southampton Central baths? I can remember driving past them when we went shopping in Southampton, and you could look into them as they had a glass 'wall' so you could see the diving boards? I can remember them from the mid-60s (?) through to the 70s or 80s (?). I presume they were demolished when the West Quay development was built? Karen 2009/12/22 Chris <chris@masquerade.demon.co.uk> > > All I need now is information about the newer pool. I'll see if the > on-line > paper archives have anything. > > Thank you again > > Chris >

Graham, Many thanks for that. Another kind lister has explained that the first pool was part of the Southampton Lido complex that included public and Turkish baths. There were two indoor pools - one for gentlemen, the other for ladies - and they were heated using water from the local power station. This also explains why they were salt water pools since this water from the power station would have been cooling water taken from Southampton Water. All I need now is information about the newer pool. I'll see if the on-line paper archives have anything. Thank you again Chris -----Original Message----- From: Graham Taylor [mailto:gtmt11@ntlworld.com] Sent: 21 December 2009 17:15 To: 'hampshire@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [HAM] Request for info about Southampton Swimming Pools Chris If you left the Civic Centre and went down the hill with the railway on your right (and the tunnel)in the Bournemouth direction if you turned first right the swimming baths were on the right. I failed to learn to swim there in the 1950's because the "instructors" had large poles with rubber bungs in the end and they pushed and held you under water. Times were tough in those days! If I recall (and I left Southampton in 1967, the new baths were built further along this road on the right. Sorry I can't remember their names. Regards Graham

-----Original Message----- From: Graham Taylor [mailto:gtmt11@ntlworld.com] Sent: 21 December 2009 17:15 To: 'hampshire@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [HAM] Request for info about Southampton Swimming Pools Chris If you left the Civic Centre and went down the hill with the railway on your right (and the tunnel)in the Bournemouth direction if you turned first right the swimming baths were on the right. I failed to learn to swim there in the 1950's because the "instructors" had large poles with rubber bungs in the end and they pushed and held you under water. Times were tough in those days! If I recall (and I left Southampton in 1967, the new baths were built further along this road on the right. Sorry I can't remember their names. Regards Graham -----Original Message----- From: hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hampshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: 21 December 2009 09:59 To: HAMPSHIRE Subject: [HAM] Request for info about Southampton Swimming Pools Hi, At long last I'm writing up my childhood memories and part of those pertain to the main swimming pools in Southampton in the 1960s and I wonder if anyone on this list can help. 1) I started swimming there in the early 1960s and remember a pool that had changing cubicles on a slatted platform that was on two sides of the pool - on a platform above the water. The hot water was pumped in via large pipes running under the platform. I think that there were also Turkish Baths there. Where was this pool and what was its name? Is there any on-line source I should look at. 2) I then witnessed the opening of the new pool in the mid 1960s. I remember a top-class diver diving off the top board to open the pool. I then joined the Southampton City Swimming Club along with the likes of David Haller and Alan Kimber. Where was the pool, what was it called and when was it opened? Again - any on-line sources? I hope you can help. Chris [Christopher Gray]

I am trying to find any details of Charmer or Charmar House, Nursling. The time frame appears to be 1799 onwards. I have a William MABEY (Mayby, Mabbe, Meaby, etc) born 25th January 1799 who also married in Nursling being referred to as 'of Charme(a)r House'. I have searched the web and the Hampshire Record Office website, but have found nothing yet. I would be grateful for any information about Charmer House, however vague. It is on a family tree prepared by someone born in 1877 and there are no references, only names of areas, and the odd house, and it is proving difficult to check and confirm the details. Thanks for any help. Regards Gill

Hi, At long last I'm writing up my childhood memories and part of those pertain to the main swimming pools in Southampton in the 1960s and I wonder if anyone on this list can help. 1) I started swimming there in the early 1960s and remember a pool that had changing cubicles on a slatted platform that was on two sides of the pool - on a platform above the water. The hot water was pumped in via large pipes running under the platform. I think that there were also Turkish Baths there. Where was this pool and what was its name? Is there any on-line source I should look at. 2) I then witnessed the opening of the new pool in the mid 1960s. I remember a top-class diver diving off the top board to open the pool. I then joined the Southampton City Swimming Club along with the likes of David Haller and Alan Kimber. Where was the pool, what was it called and when was it opened? Again - any on-line sources? I hope you can help. Chris [Christopher Gray]

Hello all Today we have uploaded as follows: BISHOPSTOKE BAPTISMS 1700-1781 transcribed by CHRIS SPENSLEY BISHOPSTOKE MARRIAGES 1700-1754 transcribed by CHRIS SPENSLEY HURSLEY BURIALS 1761 - 1774 transcribed by LAWRENCE DANIELL HURSLEY BAPTISMS 1761 -1774 transcribed by LAWRENCE DANIELL IBSLEY BURIALS - CORRECTION FORDINGBRIDGE BAPTISMS - 1844 - 1847 transcribed by LIZ LANE You can check on these and all of the other transcriptions FREE online at www.knightroots.co.uk and then click on Online Transcriptions. We are always looking for donations of transcriptions or microfiche, village histories and photographs (must be your own copyright)or of course, volunteer transcribers. Contact hampshireopc@btinternet.com for details. To find an entry, either use the CTRL+Find on an individual parish page - or use the site search engine on the left hand navigation pane. Take care Linda & Tony Hampshire OPC Co-ordinators

Thanks folks, what nimble fingers you have! All your work is much appreciated. Edna - sunny and frosty Ottawa --- Today we have uploaded as follows: BISHOPSTOKE BAPTISMS 1700-1781 transcribed by CHRIS SPENSLEY BISHOPSTOKE MARRIAGES 1700-1754 transcribed by CHRIS SPENSLEY HURSLEY BURIALS 1761 - 1774 transcribed by LAWRENCE DANIELL HURSLEY BAPTISMS 1761 -1774 transcribed by LAWRENCE DANIELL IBSLEY BURIALS - CORRECTION FORDINGBRIDGE BAPTISMS - 1844 - 1847 transcribed by LIZ LANE You can check on these and all of the other transcriptions FREE online at www.knightroots.co.uk and then click on Online Transcriptions. We are always looking for donations of transcriptions or microfiche, village histories and photographs (must be your own copyright)or of course, volunteer transcribers. Contact hampshireopc@btinternet.com for details. To find an entry, either use the CTRL+Find on an individual parish page - or use the site search engine on the left hand navigation pane. Take care Linda & Tony Hampshire OPC Co-ordinators For FREE online parish register transcriptions and other information visit www.knightroots.co.uk. Please trim ALL messages to a minimum & remove the footer as this is added automatically at the end of all messages. Thanks To subscribe or unsubscribe please send a message to hampshire-request@rootsweb.com with the appropriate subject header.Thanks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HAMPSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Posting my Hampshire surname interests. Mainly they are BROAD and JEROM (all spellings) form the Broughton area in the late 1700s. Further back I I may also have connections with MURRANT and NEOT and maybe the Mottisfont and Alverstoke areas of Hampshire. Anyone out there with similar connections?

Just thinking how lucky we are to have family and good friends here and across the world. Thanks to all who have been so kind and helpful to me. I could not have these family trees before me without your help. With sincere appreciation, Peace and Good Health to you all. Edna - sunny Ottawa ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Christmas Day in the Workhouse George R. Sims (1903) It is Christmas Day in the workhouse, And the cold, bare walls are bright With garlands of green and holly, And the place is a pleasant sight; For with clean-washed hands and faces, In a long and hungry line The paupers sit at the table, For this is the hour they dine. And the guardians and their ladies, Although the wind is east, Have come in their furs and wrappers, To watch their charges feast; To smile and be condescending, Put pudding on pauper plates. To be hosts at the workhouse banquet They've paid for -- with the rates. Oh, the paupers are meek and lowly With their "Thank'ee kindly, mum's!'" So long as they fill their stomachs, What matter it whence it comes! But one of the old men mutters, And pushes his plate aside: "Great God!" he cries, "but it chokes me! For this is the day she died!" The guardians gazed in horror, The master's face went white; "Did a pauper refuse the pudding?" "Could their ears believe aright?" Then the ladies clutched their husbands, Thinking the man would die, Struck by a bolt, or something, By the outraged One on high. But the pauper sat for a moment, Then rose 'mid silence grim, For the others had ceased to chatter And trembled in every limb. He looked at the guardians' ladies, Then, eyeing their lords, he said, "I eat not the food of villains Whose hands are foul and red: "Whose victims cry for vengeance >From their dark, unhallowed graves." "He's drunk!" said the workhouse master, "Or else he's mad and raves." "Not drunk or mad," cried the pauper, "But only a haunted beast, Who, torn by the hounds and mangled, Declines the vulture's feast. "I care not a curse for the guardians, And I won't be dragged away; Just let me have the fit out, It's only on Christmas Day That the black past comes to goad me, And prey on my burning brain; I'll tell you the rest in a whisper -- I swear I won't shout again. "Keep your hands off me, curse you! Hear me right out to the end. You come here to see how paupers The season of Christmas spend;. You come here to watch us feeding, As they watched the captured beast. Here's why a penniless pauper Spits on your paltry feast. "Do you think I will take your bounty, And let you smile and think You're doing a noble action With the parish's meat and drink? Where is my wife, you traitors -- The poor old wife you slew? Yes, by the God above me, My Nance was killed by you! 'Last winter my wife lay dying, Starved in a filthy den; I had never been to the parish -- I came to the parish then. I swallowed my pride in coming, For ere the ruin came, I held up my head as a trader, And I bore a spotless name. "I came to the parish, craving Bread for a starving wife, Bread for the woman who'd loved me Through fifty years of life; And what do you think they told me, Mocking my awful grief, That 'the House' was open to us, But they wouldn't give 'out relief'. "I slunk to the filthy alley -- 'Twas a cold, raw Christmas Eve -- And the bakers' shops were open, Tempting a man to thieve; But I clenched my fists together, Holding my head awry, So I came to her empty-handed And mournfully told her why. "Then I told her the house was open; She had heard of the ways of that, For her bloodless cheeks went crimson, and up in her rags she sat, Crying, 'Bide the Christmas here, John, We've never had one apart; I think I can bear the hunger -- The other would break my heart.' "All through that eve I watched her, Holding her hand in mine, Praying the Lord and weeping, Till my lips were salt as brine; I asked her once if she hungered, And as she answered 'No' , T'he moon shone in at the window, Set in a wreath of snow. "Then the room was bathed in glory, And I saw in my darling's eyes The faraway look of wonder That comes when the spirit flies; And her lips were parched and parted, And her reason came and went. For she raved of our home in Devon, Where our happiest years were spent. "And the accents, long forgotten, Came back to the tongue once more. For she talked like the country lassie I woo'd by the Devon shore; Then she rose to her feet and trembled, And fell on the rags and moaned, And, 'Give me a crust -- I'm famished -- For the love of God!' she groaned. "I rushed from the room like a madman And flew to the workhouse gate, Crying, 'Food for a dying woman!' And the answer came, 'Too late.' They drove me away with curses; Then I fought with a dog in the street And tore from the mongrel's clutches A crust he was trying to eat. "Back through the filthy byways! Back through the trampled slush! Up to the crazy garret, Wrapped in an awful hush; My heart sank down at the threshold, And I paused with a sudden thrill. For there, in the silv'ry moonlight, My Nance lay, cold and still. "Up to the blackened ceiling, The sunken eyes were cast -- I knew on those lips, all bloodless, My name had been the last; She called for her absent husband -- O God! had I but known! -- Had called in vain, and, in anguish, Had died in that den -- alone. "Yes, there, in a land of plenty, Lay a loving woman dead, Cruelly starved and murdered for a loaf of the parish bread; At yonder gate, last Christmas, I craved for a human life, You, who would feed us paupers, What of my murdered wife!" 'There, get ye gone to your dinners, Don't mind me in the least, Think of the happy paupers Eating your Christmas feast; And when you recount their blessings In your smug parochial way, Say what you did for me, too, Only last Christmas Day."

Hi all How would you like to have FREE access to all the 19th century GB census? No more tokens,subscriptions etc. Freecen, an international project, is aiming to do just that, a good start has already been made, there are over 15 million entries on line and increasing all the time. Hampshire itself has 120,963 (27.3%) of 1861 records available and 276,007 (45.3%) 1891 records available already. Obviously though it needs volunteers with willing fingers to help us finish the project. Can you help please. Requirements are patience, as much time as you can give and feel comfortable with, a sense of humour and willingness to learn a new and comparatively easy skill. In return you will receive a pre formatted spreadsheet, jpegs of the census pages which need copying, (although 1891 is mostly only available in microfiche format) an on line help list and contact with the coordinator for the area and a sense of achievement. Please help us with this fantastic project. If you would like to volunteer then please contact me. Looking forward to hearing from you Cheers Bev Howlett Freecen Volunteer Recruitment Co-Ordinator

Get a copy of his birth certificate and you will have the names of his parents Keith Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Railton" <railton.david@btinternet.com> To: "Hampshire@rootsweb" <Hampshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 9:36 PM Subject: [HAM] BONE - Portsmouth > The GRO Index shows the registration of the birth of Frederick Charles > Bone > in the Portsmouth Registration District in the March quarter of 1907. > Frederick's date of birth was 31st December, 1906. > > > > Frederick was a police constable in Birkenhead, Cheshire and during WWII > he > was a navigator in the Royal Air Force. His aircraft was shot down and he > became a prisoner of war. > > > > I would like to find who his parents were although my main interest is in > anyone who knows of the family and can tell me anything of Frederick's > history. > > > > David > > > > > > > For FREE online parish register transcriptions and other information visit > www.knightroots.co.uk. > > Please trim ALL messages to a minimum & remove the footer as this is added > automatically at the end of all messages. > Thanks > > To subscribe or unsubscribe please send a message to > hampshire-request@rootsweb.com with the appropriate subject header.Thanks > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HAMPSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

None of the 4 year old Fredericks in the 1911 census were born in Hampshire. You'll need to send for his birth certificate! John David Railton wrote: > The GRO Index shows the registration of the birth of Frederick Charles Bone > in the Portsmouth Registration District in the March quarter of 1907. > Frederick's date of birth was 31st December, 1906. > > > > Frederick was a police constable in Birkenhead, Cheshire and during WWII he > was a navigator in the Royal Air Force. His aircraft was shot down and he > became a prisoner of war. > > > > I would like to find who his parents were although my main interest is in > anyone who knows of the family and can tell me anything of Frederick's > history. > > > > David > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4684 (20091213) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

David if you go to Find My Past you should be able to find the family in the 1911 census. Hope this helps. Linda & Tony

Thankyou David for your` interest. Regards JOE Austen in OZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "DAVID DOWD" <david.dowd@btinternet.com> To: <hampshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [HAM] George A Keeping Hi Austen, This, the only Keeping I can find local to me, might just be relevant thouigh very early Keeping, Peter, born 1750; dwelt Poor House, Fawley; buried 27.10.1818 Fawley (All Saints) churchyard David

The GRO Index shows the registration of the birth of Frederick Charles Bone in the Portsmouth Registration District in the March quarter of 1907. Frederick's date of birth was 31st December, 1906. Frederick was a police constable in Birkenhead, Cheshire and during WWII he was a navigator in the Royal Air Force. His aircraft was shot down and he became a prisoner of war. I would like to find who his parents were although my main interest is in anyone who knows of the family and can tell me anything of Frederick's history. David

Hi could anyone please tell me of any homes in the above area? I am trying to find 3 children of a family of 6 who have disappeared without a trace following the death of their mother in The Home Hospital at Colbury. They had been living at Beaulieu. many thanks Judith _________________________________________________________________ Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them together to easily access both http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/

Hello Joe - not sure if this is relevant but the 1911 census has a George Albert KEEPING aged 35 living in Portsmouth. I can't get more details as I don't have any credits but this could be worth considering as the marriage and birth of first child are also registered in Portsmouth? In 1901 I think this George may be in the Royal Navy aboard the Excellent at Portsmouth. Birthplace given as Boldre. As the 1911 entry is an 'institution' I suspect this is the same man. In 1881 there is a George Albert KEEPING aged 5yrs living in Boldre with parents Isaac and Dinah. Birthplace given as Bucklers Hard, Beaulieu. Hope this gives some food for thought. Regards, Patsy - New Zealand Website: http://www.loanegenealogy.webs.com Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 2:08 AM Subject: [HAM] George A Keeping >I had been aware for several years, that my g half aunt Mary Ann Walker, >married a man called Keeping, but today was the first time that I managed >to find a reference to the marriage on FreeBMD. for the June Quarter of >1916, I was under the impression that he was from the new Forest Area, >certainly their 2nd and third children were born in the Lymington RD. If >anyone has any clues they would be appreciated. (they are too distant for >me to buy certificates)regards Joe Austen in OZ