hello everybody . can someone help please. in Guernsey i have a Stephen john Taylor 1884-1960 (married claudia tardif) son of Stephen john taylor 1880-1939 (married Alice de bertrand) son of Stephen john Taylor 1838-1894 (married Mary langlois) son of Stephen Taylor 1817--????.married Marie renouf , .then nothing --in early 1838 they meet ? middle 1838 they marry and Nov 1838 a son is born . ok so far but but 1841 census Marie and baby Stephen are back with her parents and dad is never to be seen again . on the marriage certificate it gives his father as William Taylor (a carpenter by trade as is Stephen the son ).all efforts and advice from the local priaulx library and greffe office which is extensive if not complete have failed to find any trace of either of them. on the birth certifcate it gives the godparents as marie's brother and wife that checks out o-k before 1800 the Taylor name was almost unheard of in the c.i. . around 1820-1830 there was a massive influx to jersey and guernsey of Taylor families and as they settled in the islands added more children to their 2-4 offspring . this is my brick wall and i wondered if anyone researching taylors might have some that came to channel islands thankyou derek --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0534-4, 26/08/2005 Tested on: 26/08/2005 21:21:36 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com

..Just a note ..there are some Christmas families in Cambridge..Ely area in the 1700 and 1800s..just a few but they are there..C.Olsen..

Hello Ray There is a website for the Victorian County series which will tell you about the project http://www.englandpast.net/hampshire.html some of the VCH volumes can be downloaded however, part of 1 volume is downloadable but is a much more recent volume ie 1973 for Hampshire. Hope this helps,Linda and Tony

Hello Ray they ae rare books and as such aren't online. The Hampshire ones were published/completed in 1910 and took around 10 years to write. Hampshire one consists of 5 volumes each approx 4" thick. We will see what we can find on CHRISTMAS but could take a little time to check as dotted around. Kind regards Linda and Tony

Victoria History of Hampshire In 1752 Charles COLE's will left part of the manor of Liss to his wife Mary and the remainder to his cousin Herbert AUBREY and his daughters Elizabeth,Judith,Arabella and Anne. Part was also left to a Harcourt AUBREY. The manor was inherited by Richard Aubrey COLE,son of Harcourt AUBREY in 1783 until it was sold in 1807 to the FITZPATRICK family.

Victoria History of Hampshire John AWBERY Rector of All Saints Stratfield Turgis in 1902

Victoria History of Hampshire In 1606 William APPLEGARTH granted the reversion of the tithe barn and rectory after the death of his mother Helen to Thomas ALBERY and Oliver DRAWATER but he still appears to be holding them in 1629. Sir Berkeley LUCY dealt with the grange and rectory by indeture in 1693.

Victoria History of Hampshire During the reign of Henry III there appears to have been some dispute in connexion with the chapel of Ropley. In 1241 the sherriff of Southampton was ordered to remove the lay force by which the men of the prior of Merton were being obstructed so that they might have free entry to the chapel. The sherriff was furter commanded to attach Master AUBERY, the official of the archdeacon of Winchester was to answer for his action in collating & instituting to the chapel contrary to the claim of the king, in whose hands the right of presentation had devolved by reason of the voidance of the see of Winchester

Hello All, Robert PALMER of Liss, Hampshire a gent married Mrs Mary ASHWORTH of this parish Chiddingfold by Licence at Chiddingfold, Surrey Regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

Is there anyone out there who could assist me please in locating any siblings of Thomas Goodall christened in Binsted, Hants 24.12.1786 - son of George GOODDLE and Mary. I am trying to connect John Goodall who is shown as marrying Kezia Seward of Shalden. Many thanks Judy Goodall of Perth

New to list James Stares SPEARING baptised Porchester 1780, son of James and Elizabeth SPEARING James lived in Hampshire, Isle of Wight, Sussex, NSW Australia, and back to Isle of Wight where he died in 1859 but is buried at Wymering. James SPEARING fathered at least 8 illegitimate children to 5 different women over a period of 44 years. Jane JACOB: mother of Sophia 1810 Isle of Wight who married (1) Jean Baptiste Lehamas D'Arrietta in NSW 1828 (2) William Walker in NSW 1838 (descendant of first marriage in Australia) Sarah NOBBS :mother of James 1813, Marcus 1815 and Ooctavius 1817 (all Isle of Wight) James died as an infant, Marcus in NSW in 1895 and Octavius USA 1838 (no known descendants) Elizabeth WHITING - mother of Tullia Ann 1819 Isle of Wight (no other details) Fanny DYER : mother of (1) Caroline 1848 married Frederic Hearn Joyce 1890 -son (Fred)Eric Michael Hearn Joyce (no known descendants in next generation) (2) Ellen 1854 married (1) Richard Warlow -son George -some descendants in Canada (2) Wilson Bundy- two sons Jane DYER/ DOWNER : mother of James Spearing DYER married Fanny Chiverton- 1872 IOW James and Fanny had two children Caroline born Gosport 1873 James born Gosport 1875 1901 Census James DYER (Jnr) aged 26 was living in a house at 32 Margate Rd, Portsmouth James described as a Hammerman Shift Building Worker 1901 Census Caroline DYER aged 27 domestic parlourmaid at 24 Crescent Rd Anglesey Rd with THOMAS family Any information particularly on DYER/ DOWNER descendants or further details about James Stares SPEARING sought. James Stares SPEARING did marry in Australia in 1827 Harriet OVERINGTON a widow from Sussex. This couple had no children together. Harriet had at least one daughter before coming to NSW- Bertha OVERINGTON. Lorraine Neate NSW Australia

Many thanks for the valuable advice Ray, I will be going to the LDS on Friday and will let you know how I get on sometime after that. Cheers Lesley Please visit my website:- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~buriton/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Christmas" <ray.christmas@inspire.net.nz> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [Ham] Some Unreadable Petersfield Baptisms > Hello again, > I should have mentioned that you will probably have to get the LDS to give > you an ordinary sized photocopy (as my LDS did) and take it to a > photocopying outfit for enlargement. I remember on my last visit to UK, > Tescos provided the machine but it was self service (that was in > Salisbury) > Kind regards, > Ray Christmas, New Zealand. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lesley C. Potter" <lesleychristine@iprimus.com.au> > To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 6:45 PM > Subject: Re: [Ham] Some Unreadable Petersfield Baptisms > > >> Hi Ray >> No, bleeding from the other side is not the problem, it is just very very >> faint, it is just visible I thought it might be a bit >> clearer on the original if it is possible to view them. After I sent the >> email, I realized I should have explained all that, but it was too late >> to >> do so. Probably the fact I put unreadable has frightened most people >> off, >> however your idea is a very good one >> and I think I will collect the relevant fiche and take them to my local > LDS >> where they have a fiche copying machine, I am just not real sure just how >> much they can blow it up, but it's worth a try. Thanks for that. >> >> Cheers >> Lesley >> >> Please visit my website:- >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~buriton/index.html >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ray Christmas" <ray.christmas@inspire.net.nz> >> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 11:59 AM >> Subject: Re: [Ham] Some Unreadable Petersfield Baptisms >> >> >> > Hi Lesley, >> > I don't know if your problem is the same as mine was, which was the >> > bleeding >> > of ink through the paper used in the original Parish record. I had >> > to >> > get >> > enlarged photocopies off the fische and thank goodness that the > ministers >> > handwriting sloped at 45 degrees (as mine does) because I snowpacked >> > out >> > all >> > the backward sloping writing (ie that which had seeped (bled) through > from >> > the other side) leaving only (most of) the writing on the side that I >> > wanted >> > to retain. >> > You may not have had the bleeding (no, not the bloody problem as I'm > sure >> > that you wanted to call it at times) through the paper, but I would >> > recommend enlarging the doc as much as possible from the fische. >> > >> > Kind regards, >> > Ray Christmas, New Zealand. >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Lesley C. Potter" <lesleychristine@iprimus.com.au> >> > To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 6:00 PM >> > Subject: [Ham] Some Unreadable Petersfield Baptisms >> > >> > >> >> Hi >> >> I have a very big ask of anyone who is in a position to be able to go > to >> >> a >> >> relevant repository (probably the HRO) >> >> >> >> to decipher 36 surnames and some parents that I have been unable to > read >> >> from the fiche I have of the Parish Records of Petersfield >> >> as I have transcribed over 10.000 baptisms for this Parish I guess 36 >> >> unreadables are not too bad, but I would really love to complete them >> > before >> >> adding to the website if possible, so am begging please. I have been > able >> > to >> >> read all the dates and all but 5 are in the nineteeth century. I >> >> asked >> > the >> >> HRO but they wanted to charge £22 per hour, which is not possible. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Lesley >> >> >> >> Please visit my website:- >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~buriton/index.html >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> >> Treat others as you wish to be treated yourselves, with respect >> >> Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> > Treat others as you wish to be treated yourselves, with respect >> > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk >> >> > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > >

My deepest and sincerest thanks to Pat from Derby who has found the following info in the 1841 census of Fareham: Adress: Windmill Lane, fareham Elizabeth Parsons, age 33, YES (born in county) William Parsons, age 15, Labourer, NO Jane Parsons, age 6, YES George Williams, age 24, Labourer, NO I'm almost positive that either the enumerator wrote George's age wrong as 53 not 33 in the 1851 census, or someone was telling porkies??!!! There is a George Williams in gosport in 1861 (b1817) who was married to Ann from Wiltshire. Oddly, there appears to be a suitable gap in their children around 1843 to 1848 for Rhoda, James and Henry all to have been born to Elizabeth parsons. A coincidence? More info needed on George's family, but he appears to be living in the forton area, so could well be a seaman, as recorded on Henry's marriage cert in 1871. I wonder where the name Allberry and all it's variants that were used came from? His mother's maiden name maybe? Well, this 1841 census has now given me some more to work on, that's for sure! regards to all, Jon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/80 - Release Date: 8/23/05

Hello Lesley, Bryce & I belong to the Hampshire Gen. Society and have been transcribing Parish Baptism records from Fiche.The Soc. "hope" to bring out a Cd at some time. We also transcribe for Free BMD. Bryce is often at Winchester Record Office and is willing to have a look at any you get stuck with and see if he can help. At the moment it is part way thro the Schools summer holiday. We have 3 young grandchildren living about 12 miles away,who come to stay over individually, so we could not promise to get it done immediately. It may also take more than one visit.....and I have to warn you everything stops for the Ashes Test Matches. SOOO, if you think that would be ok send us the details. and we will have a go .Best wishes, Jean & Bryce Mansfield , Alresford,Hants. Ps , I was one of the people who wrote to say I could not get your new Website, I am not sure if you changed anything but we went onto AOL Broadband and everything is fine now .

Hi everyone, If there is anyone trawling through the 1841 census of Hants, particularly Portsea, Fareham and Gosport areas, could they please keep an eye open for a George Allberry/Aldbury/Aubery/Aubrey/Albury/Albray etc etc? Believed to have been born outside the county, and more than likely working as a Labourer. Marital status unknown, and aged around 43 in real terms (going by his age given on the 1851 census). Thanks in advance, kind regards to all, Jon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.14/79 - Release Date: 8/22/05

Hello again, I should have mentioned that you will probably have to get the LDS to give you an ordinary sized photocopy (as my LDS did) and take it to a photocopying outfit for enlargement. I remember on my last visit to UK, Tescos provided the machine but it was self service (that was in Salisbury) Kind regards, Ray Christmas, New Zealand. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley C. Potter" <lesleychristine@iprimus.com.au> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [Ham] Some Unreadable Petersfield Baptisms > Hi Ray > No, bleeding from the other side is not the problem, it is just very very > faint, it is just visible I thought it might be a bit > clearer on the original if it is possible to view them. After I sent the > email, I realized I should have explained all that, but it was too late to > do so. Probably the fact I put unreadable has frightened most people off, > however your idea is a very good one > and I think I will collect the relevant fiche and take them to my local LDS > where they have a fiche copying machine, I am just not real sure just how > much they can blow it up, but it's worth a try. Thanks for that. > > Cheers > Lesley > > Please visit my website:- > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~buriton/index.html > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray Christmas" <ray.christmas@inspire.net.nz> > To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 11:59 AM > Subject: Re: [Ham] Some Unreadable Petersfield Baptisms > > > > Hi Lesley, > > I don't know if your problem is the same as mine was, which was the > > bleeding > > of ink through the paper used in the original Parish record. I had to > > get > > enlarged photocopies off the fische and thank goodness that the ministers > > handwriting sloped at 45 degrees (as mine does) because I snowpacked out > > all > > the backward sloping writing (ie that which had seeped (bled) through from > > the other side) leaving only (most of) the writing on the side that I > > wanted > > to retain. > > You may not have had the bleeding (no, not the bloody problem as I'm sure > > that you wanted to call it at times) through the paper, but I would > > recommend enlarging the doc as much as possible from the fische. > > > > Kind regards, > > Ray Christmas, New Zealand. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lesley C. Potter" <lesleychristine@iprimus.com.au> > > To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 6:00 PM > > Subject: [Ham] Some Unreadable Petersfield Baptisms > > > > > >> Hi > >> I have a very big ask of anyone who is in a position to be able to go to > >> a > >> relevant repository (probably the HRO) > >> > >> to decipher 36 surnames and some parents that I have been unable to read > >> from the fiche I have of the Parish Records of Petersfield > >> as I have transcribed over 10.000 baptisms for this Parish I guess 36 > >> unreadables are not too bad, but I would really love to complete them > > before > >> adding to the website if possible, so am begging please. I have been able > > to > >> read all the dates and all but 5 are in the nineteeth century. I asked > > the > >> HRO but they wanted to charge £22 per hour, which is not possible. > >> > >> Regards > >> Lesley > >> > >> Please visit my website:- > >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~buriton/index.html > >> > >> > >> ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > >> Treat others as you wish to be treated yourselves, with respect > >> Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > >> > >> > > > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > Treat others as you wish to be treated yourselves, with respect > > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > > > > > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > >

Hello again Lesley, I would suggest, but it's a long shot, is to use a lead pencil to follow the the lines of the faint words on the blown up photocopy to see if what you can make out in this way makes sense in terms of similar style to the other entries on legible pages. You may have to do this a few times on enlarged photocopies. You may also try getting the enlarged photocopy scanned into a computer and I'm pretty sure there's a way of getting the background, if not taken away leaving the faint writing more 'resolved', then at least dampened down. Speak to a computer expert. Kind regards, Ray Christmas, New Zealand. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley C. Potter" <lesleychristine@iprimus.com.au> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [Ham] Some Unreadable Petersfield Baptisms > Hi Ray > No, bleeding from the other side is not the problem, it is just very very > faint, it is just visible I thought it might be a bit > clearer on the original if it is possible to view them. After I sent the > email, I realized I should have explained all that, but it was too late to > do so. Probably the fact I put unreadable has frightened most people off, > however your idea is a very good one > and I think I will collect the relevant fiche and take them to my local LDS > where they have a fiche copying machine, I am just not real sure just how > much they can blow it up, but it's worth a try. Thanks for that. > > Cheers > Lesley > > Please visit my website:- > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~buriton/index.html > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray Christmas" <ray.christmas@inspire.net.nz> > To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 11:59 AM > Subject: Re: [Ham] Some Unreadable Petersfield Baptisms > > > > Hi Lesley, > > I don't know if your problem is the same as mine was, which was the > > bleeding > > of ink through the paper used in the original Parish record. I had to > > get > > enlarged photocopies off the fische and thank goodness that the ministers > > handwriting sloped at 45 degrees (as mine does) because I snowpacked out > > all > > the backward sloping writing (ie that which had seeped (bled) through from > > the other side) leaving only (most of) the writing on the side that I > > wanted > > to retain. > > You may not have had the bleeding (no, not the bloody problem as I'm sure > > that you wanted to call it at times) through the paper, but I would > > recommend enlarging the doc as much as possible from the fische. > > > > Kind regards, > > Ray Christmas, New Zealand. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lesley C. Potter" <lesleychristine@iprimus.com.au> > > To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 6:00 PM > > Subject: [Ham] Some Unreadable Petersfield Baptisms > > > > > >> Hi > >> I have a very big ask of anyone who is in a position to be able to go to > >> a > >> relevant repository (probably the HRO) > >> > >> to decipher 36 surnames and some parents that I have been unable to read > >> from the fiche I have of the Parish Records of Petersfield > >> as I have transcribed over 10.000 baptisms for this Parish I guess 36 > >> unreadables are not too bad, but I would really love to complete them > > before > >> adding to the website if possible, so am begging please. I have been able > > to > >> read all the dates and all but 5 are in the nineteeth century. I asked > > the > >> HRO but they wanted to charge £22 per hour, which is not possible. > >> > >> Regards > >> Lesley > >> > >> Please visit my website:- > >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~buriton/index.html > >> > >> > >> ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > >> Treat others as you wish to be treated yourselves, with respect > >> Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > >> > >> > > > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > Treat others as you wish to be treated yourselves, with respect > > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > > > > > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > >

thanks Margaret I am really not sure this is the man I am looking for so cannot justify expense until I have further proof Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sandersunderhill@aol.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [Ham] Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Ann HUIT > Hi! There are excellent records of Royal Navy personnel at Kew. You > can > trace his entire career, including all the ships he served on, but you > either > have to do it in person or pay a researcher to do it for you. > > Margaret Sanders from Wiltshire > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > A genealogist NEVER dies he just grows more roots >

bob, I just checked on an online dictionary, and it says that a boatswain is a Petty Officer on a merchant ship who controls the work of other seamen. regards, Jon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/05

Hi Jon that is what they have on the census age 84 yes Super & Gunner RN whatever that is. What did a boatswain do ----- Original Message ----- From: "J P NIXEY" <jpnixey@btinternet.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:11 PM Subject: [Ham] Re: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Ann HUIT > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 9:51 PM > Subject: [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Ann HUIT > > The nearest I can find is 1871 census Portsea William HUIT >> head b abt 1787 Liverpool occ Gunner RN > > > Hi Bob, I'm presuming he's a retired gunner? 84 and still going strong? > Amazing, I wonder what his secret was? lol. Hope you get the answer you > are > looking for. Regards, jon > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/05 > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Our ancestors never die > heaven knows where they goes. >