Interesting site: http://www.nmm.ac.uk/memorials/BrowseMemorials.cfm Edna - Ottawa

OOps sorry of course ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Lane" <liz_lane@ntlworld.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [Ham] newbolds, Gosport > And men too! > Liz > > At 13:29 12/09/2005, you wrote: >>Thank you for that Jon the only reason I held back to check that was on >>her birth certificate she is Catherine Ellen LAMBLE b 10 Jan 1871. I >>suppose they could have transcribed it as that because a lot of women then >>could not spell. >> >>Bob > > Elizabeth Lane > Worthing > West Sussex > liz_lane@ntlworld.com > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Spring clean your tree and see if you can dust off some new rellies > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > also Hampshire Look up Exchange at > http://members.madasafish.com/~caroldolton/index.htm >

And men too! Liz At 13:29 12/09/2005, you wrote: >Thank you for that Jon the only reason I held back to check that was on >her birth certificate she is Catherine Ellen LAMBLE b 10 Jan 1871. I >suppose they could have transcribed it as that because a lot of women then >could not spell. > >Bob Elizabeth Lane Worthing West Sussex liz_lane@ntlworld.com

Have you tried this site? www.historicaldirectories.org/ -- Best regards, Peter McNulty peter@sparshott.org.uk www.sparshott.org.uk Researching: SPARSHOTT families world-wide (especially Hants) ----- Original Message ----- From: "J P NIXEY" <jpnixey@btinternet.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [Ham] Hampshire Telegraph: Sept 10, 1915 - Edited Article > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> > To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:59 PM > Subject: Re: [Ham] Hampshire Telegraph: Sept 10, 1915 - Edited Article > > > > would they have had Kelly's in 1915 > > Yes but I could only access the ones online from the Hantsweb site. Just > the one entry in 1933/4 > > Jon > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/05 > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Parish Register transcriptions for some parishes are available on line at www.knightroots.co.uk - click "parish registers" >

Thank you for that Jon the only reason I held back to check that was on her birth certificate she is Catherine Ellen LAMBLE b 10 Jan 1871. I suppose they could have transcribed it as that because a lot of women then could not spell. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "J P NIXEY" <jpnixey@btinternet.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 8:59 AM Subject: [Ham] newbolds, Gosport > Hi Bob > > John Henry Newbold and Kate Ellen Lamble > married Dec qtr 1889 2b 1091 > Kate Georgiana Newbold > birth Dec qtr 1890 2b 511 > James Henry Newbold > birth Dec qtr 1899 2b 551 > Obviously the Mrs K. E. Newbold I found in the 1933/4 at 24 Chapel St, > Gosport is your Kate Ellen, John Henry's wife. I take it the girl in your > family who was knocked off her bike by a tram was the Kate G born 1890? > That must have been so devastating for young James to have had his own > sister go through that, then a few years later to witness a similar > accident. Very traumatic I'd have thought! doesn't bear thinking about. > > All the best, Jon > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/05 > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk >

Hi Bob John Henry Newbold and Kate Ellen Lamble married Dec qtr 1889 2b 1091 Kate Georgiana Newbold birth Dec qtr 1890 2b 511 James Henry Newbold birth Dec qtr 1899 2b 551 Obviously the Mrs K. E. Newbold I found in the 1933/4 at 24 Chapel St, Gosport is your Kate Ellen, John Henry's wife. I take it the girl in your family who was knocked off her bike by a tram was the Kate G born 1890? That must have been so devastating for young James to have had his own sister go through that, then a few years later to witness a similar accident. Very traumatic I'd have thought! doesn't bear thinking about. All the best, Jon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/05

correction that was 1908 ----- Original Message ----- From: <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [Ham] Hampshire Telegraph: Sept 10, 1915 - Edited Article > Jon you know the tragic thing about this is that John Henry Newbolds > daughter Kathleen was knocked off her bicycle and run over by a tram > outside the trinity Church in Gosport in 1905 aged 15. How uncanny is > that. I thought I remembered something about a tram and the Newbolds, I > wonder if there was any news paper entries about that > > > Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J P NIXEY" <jpnixey@btinternet.com> > To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: [Ham] Hampshire Telegraph: Sept 10, 1915 - Edited Article > > >> Hi bob, well this was 1915, it says James Newbold was "a boy", so could >> be >> anything up to his early teens maybe? >> Do you have any addresses for your John Newbold? could it be his son? >> Named >> after John's father? >> Kellys 1933/4 has a Mrs K. E. Newbold at 24 Chapel Street, Gosport...? >> This >> James Newbold was said to have been living at 20 Chapel Street....? >> >> Regards, Jon >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/05 >> >> >> ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Genealogy is contagious and you don't have to sneeze to pass it on >> > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Treat others as you wish to be treated yourselves, with respect > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk >

Jon you know the tragic thing about this is that John Henry Newbolds daughter Kathleen was knocked off her bicycle and run over by a tram outside the trinity Church in Gosport in 1905 aged 15. How uncanny is that. I thought I remembered something about a tram and the Newbolds, I wonder if there was any news paper entries about that Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "J P NIXEY" <jpnixey@btinternet.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [Ham] Hampshire Telegraph: Sept 10, 1915 - Edited Article > Hi bob, well this was 1915, it says James Newbold was "a boy", so could be > anything up to his early teens maybe? > Do you have any addresses for your John Newbold? could it be his son? > Named > after John's father? > Kellys 1933/4 has a Mrs K. E. Newbold at 24 Chapel Street, Gosport...? > This > James Newbold was said to have been living at 20 Chapel Street....? > > Regards, Jon > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/05 > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Genealogy is contagious and you don't have to sneeze to pass it on >

Has anyone got the 1915 Kelly's for Alverstoke Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:55 PM Subject: Re: [Ham] Hampshire Telegraph: Sept 10, 1915 - Edited Article > Hello Jon just had a look at my notes and John Henry Newbold was living at > 24 Chapel Street when he got married on 19 Nov 1889. They had a son James > Henry born 1900 could this be him. In the 1901 they were not living at > Chapel St they were at something that looks like Hunts Alley wherever that > was, but knowing how they moved around they could have been back in Chapel > Street. > > Bob > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk >

Doesn't appear to be many Newbolds at all in Gosport Bob, so must either be him or a cousin .. my money's on him! Jon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/05

----- Original Message ----- From: <bob.newell@ntlworld.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [Ham] Hampshire Telegraph: Sept 10, 1915 - Edited Article > would they have had Kelly's in 1915 Yes but I could only access the ones online from the Hantsweb site. Just the one entry in 1933/4 Jon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/05

would they have had Kelly's in 1915 ----- Original Message ----- From: "J P NIXEY" <jpnixey@btinternet.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [Ham] Hampshire Telegraph: Sept 10, 1915 - Edited Article > Hi bob, well this was 1915, it says James Newbold was "a boy", so could be > anything up to his early teens maybe? > Do you have any addresses for your John Newbold? could it be his son? > Named > after John's father? > Kellys 1933/4 has a Mrs K. E. Newbold at 24 Chapel Street, Gosport...? > This > James Newbold was said to have been living at 20 Chapel Street....? > > Regards, Jon > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/05 > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Genealogy is contagious and you don't have to sneeze to pass it on >

Hello Jon just had a look at my notes and John Henry Newbold was living at 24 Chapel Street when he got married on 19 Nov 1889. They had a son James Henry born 1900 could this be him. In the 1901 they were not living at Chapel St they were at something that looks like Hunts Alley wherever that was, but knowing how they moved around they could have been back in Chapel Street. Bob

Hi bob I cut out the parts I don't want and literally type in >>>snip> myself ... to show where sections have been taken out regards, Jon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/05

Hi bob, well this was 1915, it says James Newbold was "a boy", so could be anything up to his early teens maybe? Do you have any addresses for your John Newbold? could it be his son? Named after John's father? Kellys 1933/4 has a Mrs K. E. Newbold at 24 Chapel Street, Gosport...? This James Newbold was said to have been living at 20 Chapel Street....? Regards, Jon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/05

I will dig out my Newbold stuff and let you know How do you do that snip thing. I just cut out . Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "J P NIXEY" <jpnixey@btinternet.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [Ham] Hampshire Telegraph: Sept 10, 1915 - Edited Article > Hi bob, well this was 1915, it says James Newbold was "a boy", so could be

Hi Jon that couldn't be an ancestor of mine by any chance could it. I have a John Henry Newbold b abt 1870 and his father was James Newbold but I have no dob. they came from Cork Ireland to Alverstoke, so suppose its not them, but could be a part of him family somewhere. Needs a bit of thought Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "J P NIXEY" <jpnixey@btinternet.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 2:01 PM Subject: [Ham] Hampshire Telegraph: Sept 10, 1915 - Edited Article

Dear Listers My gt grandparents, Frederick & Louisa KEMISH (Brown) lived in Dorset with their children until c1872 when they moved to Bournemouth. Their eighth, ninth and tenth child, Charlotte bc1873, Walter b c1875 , and Evelyn bc 1877, were all born in Bournemouth. Their eleventh child, Lillian bc 1880 was born in Southampton. In 1881 they moved to Islington, London. I am wondering if Frederick & Louisa had relatives in Hampshire and would like to hear from anyone with KEMISH connections. Thanking you all in advance for any help you can give me. Carole

Hi everyone I am not including the entire article, but I thought that some of the names mentioned in it may be of interest to someone. Kind regards, Jon This report appeared in the Hampshire Telegraph, 10th September 1915, page 3. GOSPORT FATALITY. TRAM DRIVER EXONERATED. Car Life-guard Suggestions. "Mr. L. Warner, the Coroner for South Hants, held an inquiry at the Gosport Police-court, on Monday evening, into the circumstances attending the death of Hilda Russell, aged 3 years, who was killed on Sunday evening through being knocked down by a Tramcar in the High Street, Gosport. Mr. Ben Kent, solicitor, watched the case on behalf of: the Gosport and Fareham Tramway, and Mr. Faraday Glen, the Manager, was also present. The first witness called was Dr. C. Lamplough, practising at Gosport. He said he was called to see the child at 5.30 on Sunday evening. >>>snip>." "The father, William Charles Russell, a cook in the Royal Navy, who lives at 1, Haslar Row, said he was away from home all day on Sunday. He understood from his wife that she had left Hilda and her brother, aged five years, playing on the step in front of the house. She suddenly missed them, but thinking they had gone to their aunt's house, and had not gone far, she was not anxious. The children had never been allowed to go into the High Street, and witness's wife had no idea that they had gone there. Arthur Franklin, of 7 Wyche Lane, near Fareham (the driver of the tramcar), stated that he had been a driver for five or six months. At about 5.15 on Sunday afternoon he was driving a car from Gosport Hard to the Avenue. When passing Mr. George Blake's shop in High Street a little child ran off the pavement on the far side. >>>snip>." ">>>snip>." ">>>snip>. A boy named James Newbold, of 20, Chapel Street, Gosport, was in High Street at the time of the accident. He was on the pavement on the left side of the road, when he saw three little children run out of a shop doorway. >>>snip>." "In summing up, the Coroner said he felt sure the Jury would join with him in expressing sympathy with the parents in the sad loss of their little child. He thought the evidence was quite clear, that the driver did all he could. ">>>snip>." Mr. Ferraday Glen said the type of lifeguard provided for their tramcars was that adopted throughout the country, and approved by the Board of Trade. It had been found that to have side guards involved such complicated mechanism that they interfered with the working of the front guard. Mr. Glen associated himself with the Coroner's expression of sympathy with the parents, and Mr. B. Kent, on behalf of the Company did the same. The Coroner remarked that it is satisfactory to know that the point has been considered. The jury returned a verdict of ''Accidental death." They exonerated the driver from all blame, and expressed sympathy with the parents. The jury also complimented the boy Newbold on the manner in which he had given his evidence." -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/05

Marie, Thankyou for this - wasn't sure of the Durley connection until I got the certificate, now I can really indulge myself. Best wishes, Liz At 10:27 10/09/2005, you wrote: >Dear Liz, > >Apologies if you've already tried this, but the Durley History Society has >an excellent site for all things Durley. There are complete parish >register transcriptions from the 1560s to 1899/1900 and some beautifully >transcribed census returns for the years 1841-1871. The Newsletters page >is also worth a good look if you are interested in the general history of >Durley. The records page can be accessed from the link below:- > >http://www.hants.gov.uk/durley/organisations/histsoc/parishrecords.htm > >Hope this helps. Elizabeth Lane Worthing West Sussex liz_lane@ntlworld.com