Peter, The entry cannot be looked up, because the register containing Vernham Dean baptisms 1701-1800, marriages 1700-1754, and burials 1701-1813 is missing. The marriage entry in Family Search is a patron submission, and may be speculative. Alan McGowan Hampshire Family History Site http://website.lineone.net/~hantshistory ----- Original Message ----- From: "PETER EASTMAN" <peterjeastman@btinternet.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 12:56 PM Subject: [Ham] Vernham Marriages 1724 EASMAN/EARLE Thomas EASMAN married Martha EARLE on 9 August 1724 at Vernham in Hampshire. If anybody has access to this record, could they confirm for me where Thomas originated please,ie, was he ''Of This Parish'' or from elsewhere, such as Hungerford? Many thanks Peter Eastman

Thomas EASMAN married Martha EARLE on 9 August 1724 at Vernham in Hampshire. If anybody has access to this record, could they confirm for me where Thomas originated please,ie, was he ''Of This Parish'' or from elsewhere, such as Hungerford? Many thanks Peter Eastman

Hi Edna, Many thanks for this - though I think my POOKs were firmly established in Hampshire. Regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edna" <ekbrit@rogers.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 1:37 PM Subject: [Ham] FW: William POOK , born c 1763 > Hi, There were POOKs living around the Washfield, Devon area but perhaps > too far away for your family... > > Edna - Ottawa > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda & Tony" <bestcover@lineone.net> > To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 5:51 AM > Subject: [Ham] FW: William POOK , born c 1763 > > >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Turner >> Subject: William POOK , born c 1763 >> >> Good morning, >> >> Apologies if this arrives twice - having trouble with Outlook Express >> which >> seems determined not to send mail at present!) >> >> Does anyone have any information on who the parents of a William POOK, >> born >> c 1763, might be? >> >> He subsequently married Mary GALE on 12 october 1789 at East Meon and >> died, >> aged 46 at Soberton. >> >> Regards >> >> John Turner >> >> >> >> >> ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Parish Register transcriptions for some parishes are available on line at >> www.knightroots.co.uk - click "parish registers" >> > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > > >

Hi there! Many thanks for the useful link to transcriptions - will give it a go! Regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda & Tony" <bestcover@lineone.net> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 10:51 AM Subject: [Ham] FW: William POOK , born c 1763 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Turner > Subject: William POOK , born c 1763 > > Good morning, > > Apologies if this arrives twice - having trouble with Outlook Express > which > seems determined not to send mail at present!) > > Does anyone have any information on who the parents of a William POOK, > born > c 1763, might be? > > He subsequently married Mary GALE on 12 october 1789 at East Meon and > died, > aged 46 at Soberton. > > Regards > > John Turner > > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Parish Register transcriptions for some parishes are available on line at > www.knightroots.co.uk - click "parish registers" > > >

15th.October 2005 INFORMATION SOUGHT ON HENRY AND ANNE SPENCER AND DESCENDANTS. HENRY SPENCER born circa 1875 (was Foreman Printer at Hampshire Chronicle until retirement, circa 1950 or earlier;. Married ANNE SPENCER nee ????; Family lived in second terraced house on left, up the hill, around bend of Alresford Road, Winchester. Buried at cemetery near or at Kings Worthy. Children attended Winchester Schools. Their Children JOSEPH SPENCER born circa 1897 (Royal Hampshire Regt., died of war wounds Kut 1916); HOCKEY SPENCER (Railwayman); (married 'Smudge' possibly in Berkshire) DOROTHY SPENCER (married Harry Williams, Railwayman, possibly at Winchester); ANNE EDITH SPENCER born cica 1904 (married at Winchester, CYRIL LEANDER BAWDEN, Prison Officer, circa 1933); WINIFRED SPENCER (married at Winchester, STANLEY BIRDSALL - they had a Greengrocer's shop near the Cross, Winchester during WW2, whilst he was in RAF); Existing info available to share. KEITH BAWDEN in NSW, Australia. environment@ozemail.com.au

-----Original Message----- From: John Turner Subject: William POOK , born c 1763 Good morning, Apologies if this arrives twice - having trouble with Outlook Express which seems determined not to send mail at present!) Does anyone have any information on who the parents of a William POOK, born c 1763, might be? He subsequently married Mary GALE on 12 october 1789 at East Meon and died, aged 46 at Soberton. Regards John Turner

Hi, There were POOKs living around the Washfield, Devon area but perhaps too far away for your family... Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda & Tony" <bestcover@lineone.net> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 5:51 AM Subject: [Ham] FW: William POOK , born c 1763 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Turner > Subject: William POOK , born c 1763 > > Good morning, > > Apologies if this arrives twice - having trouble with Outlook Express > which > seems determined not to send mail at present!) > > Does anyone have any information on who the parents of a William POOK, > born > c 1763, might be? > > He subsequently married Mary GALE on 12 october 1789 at East Meon and > died, > aged 46 at Soberton. > > Regards > > John Turner > > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Parish Register transcriptions for some parishes are available on line at > www.knightroots.co.uk - click "parish registers" >

Hi, For all those interested in the release of the 1851 census. I contacted Ancestry to ask when the 1851 census was likely to be released and the following is the response I received. Regards Maureen We apologize for any inconvenience. At this time we are working to complete the posting of information in the 1841 & 1851 Uk Censuses. We do not have an official release schedule for future postings. Certain information may not currently be available due to varying issues. These include (but are not limited to) research, rescanning, and quality assurance matters. We will complete the posting of this database as quickly as possible, but there will be some delay before the entire project is completed. Thank you for your patience. PLEASE NOTE: In addition to the above issues governing when more information is added to this database, this data is supplied by a third party. Periodic updates to this database are provided to Ancestry.com as these are made by the organization responsible for collecting this information. However, the frequency of these updates varies. My websites: http://www.geocities.com/sheppie1uk/shep2.html www.horspathcc.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/searcher152/welcome.html

I'm looking for Henry James FARR (aka Harry) (b. 1882 Trowbridge, Wilts) in the 1901 census. I think he may have moved to Hants by then. Could SKS look him up for me? Thanks. Alan in Brisbane

Does anybody have access to the Hampshire Quarter sessions for Portsmouth, who could kindly look up a query for me? I suspect my great-grandfather George ROFEFY (1844-1886) possibly went bankrupt or became a debtor. He died in 1886 but still had his Pork Butchers Shop in Kingston Crescent, Portsmouth in 1881(Census). So this would have occurred somewhere between 1881-6. Thanks in advance. Cliff Roffey

There is a Harry FARR living with his family father Isaac FARR and wife Susan and lots of children in Trowbridge in 1901 Bob Newell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan & Susan House" <hobbiton@bigpond.net.au> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: [Ham] FARR in Hants > I'm looking for Henry James FARR (aka Harry) (b. 1882 Trowbridge, Wilts) > in > the 1901 census. I think he may have moved to Hants by then. > > Could SKS look him up for me? Thanks. > > Alan in Brisbane > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Turn over a new leaf - there might be a new ancestor hiding underneath > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk >

A friend sent me this interesting excerpt from the West Briton on 23rd December 1853: Cheers, Edna - Ottawa >>>>>>>>>> DEATH ON THE ATLANTIC. The ravages of disease among the emigrant passengers, who cross the Atlantic at this season, are frightful, and almost rival the horrors of the famous "middle passage." Nearly every ship that arrives at New York reports a large loss of living cargo, averaging from twenty to thirty per cent, of all the souls on board. There is no doubt, as we learn from the physicians at Quarantine, that these deaths are mostly occasioned by the cholera, but we think that there can be as little doubt that the disease is generated by the ill-condition of our emigrant vessels. The mode of crowding human beings of both sexes and all ages promiscuously like animals destined for market, between the decks of emigrant ships, without ventilation, without sufficient water, without proper food, or beds, or the necessary care, amid filth and stenches accumulating from the beginning to the end of the voyage, and with the weakness caused by scanty diet and sea-sickness to predispose and prepare for fever the whole wretched mass, - all this is a disgrace to our progressive civilisation and to the nineteenth century, and it is one, too, which America has to pay for dearly in the end. A writer in the New York Tribune, describing a Liverpool ship in which he was a passenger, says that it was impossible to get anything cooked with any degree of cleanliness, or even cooked at all, so that women with families of young children often had to wait several hours each morning before they could procure a morsel of food to appease the hunger of their exhausted and fevered little ones, gives us the following revolting picture:- One of the most vitally important requisites on the emigrant ship are clean and commodious water-closets. On board this ship these necessaries were situated on each side of the forward hatchway, very near to the cooking galleys. They had just been erected by the ship's carpenter, and were composed of rough pine boards. They were ranged three together on each side of the deck, one being appropriated to the use of female, the other to the male passengers. They were about twenty inches in width and five feet in height. The interior of each consisted of a single crossbar, and a wooden shoot leading out through the bulwarks. So ill-adapted and incommodious were these places that in rough weather, or when the ship was rolling, the inmates were often thrown through the frail door, and precipitated upon the deck. The doors would thus get knocked off their hinges, and the carpenter would let them stay knocked off. It was almost impossible to escape defilements in their places, even with all the advantages of the most favourable weather. There was no supply of water to keep the channels clean, and every time a wave broke against the ship's side, or she plunged, the accumulated filth would be washed out upon deck. This often occurred when there were several of these places occupied, and the inmates presented the most pitiable spectacles. The stench at all times emitted from these places was not unlike that which would arise from two laden night-carts anchored on each side of the deck. So totally unfit were these houses for the use for which they were designed, that even the most reckless and vermin-crawling passenger entered them with loathing. The case of the male passengers is distressing, but that of the females were wretched beyond description. The effluvia arising from these places, together with their general repulsiveness, is undoubtedly a pregnant cause of much of the disease which prevails upon emigrant ships." With such facts before us, the wonder is not that cholera and ship-fever destroy thirty per cent of the emigrants, but that so many escape. The same kind of miscalled accommodation on land would breed a contagion, and what they must be their effects on ship-board, where, under the most favourable circumstances, the condition is sufficiently disagreeable and unwholesome?

Bother! Thanks for the response. And I was getting all excited at the possibilities of finding something. Still, as my other half is always reminding me, they're all dead and won't be getting any less so, so it's not really that urgent. Regards Jane -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Mallyon [mailto:BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2005 8:44 p.m. To: HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Ham] 1851 Census lookup request Hi Jane, >Is there any KS who could do a look up for me on the 1851 now it is >available? (I understand Ancestry allow this) Ancestry stopped researchers using the 1851 Census yesterday, Ancestry hope to be putting the 1851 Census for general use sometime this year. Regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "J T Pearson Outdoor Training" <jtpoutdoor@xtra.co.nz> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:05 PM Subject: RE: [Ham] 1851 Census lookup request | Hi all | Is there any KS who could do a look up for me on the 1851 now it is | available? (I understand Ancestry allow this) | | I am seeking | William and/or Diana/Dinah PEARSON | Diana/Dinah was born in 1795 in Portsmouth, William is of unknown origin but | the couple married in Alverstoke. | The couple moved to Rotherhithe in Surrey c 1820. | | I have records of them until 1832 in Surrey then they disappear, knowing my | luck they probably died between 1832 and 1837 when death records started but | I live in hope! | | I am also seeking their elusive children... | | Thomas PEARSON b c 1820 Rotherhithe (thought to have been transported to Aus | in 1836) | William James PEARSON bc 1821 Rotherhithe | Charlotte PEARSON bc 1823 Rotherhithe | | EDWARD JOHN PEARSON (my ggetc) b 1825 Rotherhithe, known to be in | Rotherhithe or Bermondsey with wife and daughter (both Elizabeth) in 1851 | exact location desperately sought! | | George PEARSON bc 1827 Rotherhithe | Dinah PEARSON bc 1829 Rotherhithe | | I have scanned the entire 1841 for Rotherhithe (no an easy task, it is very | faded) for this family with no joy as well as checking out the St Caths BMD | indexes so an 1851 look up would be very much appreciated. | I already have all the details of the family from the IGI. | | Thanks for any help | Jane | | -- | No virus found in this outgoing message. | Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. | Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.14/131 - Release Date: 12/10/2005 | | | | ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== | Treat others as you wish to be treated yourselves, with respect | Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk | | ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== Treat others as you wish to be treated yourselves, with respect Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.14/131 - Release Date: 12/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.14/131 - Release Date: 12/10/2005

Thank you Edna, That's a great site Wendy

Hi, Seeing that the Lists are a little slow lately, try this for some medieval history... http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/sources/olmed.shtml Cheers, Edna - Ottawa

Hi Listers, Could sks please help me with finding my 3rd gr grandmother's surname? My 3rd gr grandfather John Ponting, born abt 1785 in St Mary Bourne (from the 1851 census) married a Mary ? around the 1811 era, and had a daughter Elizabeth in Enham abt. 1812. Mary was born in Little London abt 1781 (also from the 1851 census). I know there are lots of 'abt', but maybe somebody has the Parish Registers for Andover which may possibly cover these bits of information. Any information would be most appreciated. Regards Ron Weeks from Melbourne, Oz.

Hi everyone! My ancestor, Hannah Taylor GILBERT was born about 1820 Stockbridge Hampshire according to census. There is a baptism at Stockbridge for Hannah Taylor Gilbert, but her parents are Richard Taylor Gilbert and Jane (nee Hoar). Richard and Jane are living in Edmonston London in 1851. He was born Portsea, a retired Coal Merchant about 1778. Baptism entry for Hannah Taylor Gilbert in Stockbridge dated Sept 21 1820 by Rev Richard Taylor Entry is clearly marked to say born February 08 1817 baptised privately Feb 21 1817 On Hannah Taylor Gilbert's marriage cert in 1840 to George Henry TINDALL Kennington Surrey, she stated her father was John GILBERT, hotel keeper. A witness at the marriage was an Elizabeth Sincock GILBERT. An Elizabeth Sinnock Gilbert died 1855 Greenwich on the GRO indexes. I have found a family in the 1851 census of Hackney which seems to be related. John Gilbert 44yrs born Stockbridge Merchant Linen Woollens Mary Ann 47yrs born City of London Mary Ann 20yrs born City of London Emily Taylor 18yrs born Kent Rd, Surrey Clara Taylor 16yrs born Islington MDX John G Gilbert 14yrs born Islington William Hoar 19yrs born Portsmouth Medical Student Elizabeth Hylor 25yrs born Chelsea House Servant I cannot find a marriage for John and Mary Ann Gilbert, but wondering if anyone can check the Stockbridge PRs? It would seem that Hannah Taylor Gilbert might be a tad old to be the child of John, but why would she state her father was John unless, he raised her after her father died etc. Would love to know the connection between these families. Also, another clue is that an Adeline Cross born about 1841 Chatham Surrey (niece) is staying with the John Gilbert family in 1861 census where they are living at Leyton Essex. None of the girls have married by this stage. IGI: Adeline Cross d/o Thomas Cross and Harriet Clara bp 18 March 1841 St Leonards Streatham Also, Emily Taylor Gilbert died Sept Q 1907 Fareham aged 77yrs There is also another John Gilbert living in Stockbridge in 1851: John Gilbert aged 59 gardener born Stockbridge Mary Ann Gilbert wife aged 58 John son unmarried aged 21 Blacksmith Charles son also unmarried aged 17 Ostler Henry so also unmarried aged 14 scholar Can anyone help to sort out these GILBERT families/ I woul dlove to know how they are connected. Thanks for any assistance. Best wishes, Judy Jones.

Hi all Is there any KS who could do a look up for me on the 1851 now it is available? (I understand Ancestry allow this) I am seeking William and/or Diana/Dinah PEARSON Diana/Dinah was born in 1795 in Portsmouth, William is of unknown origin but the couple married in Alverstoke. The couple moved to Rotherhithe in Surrey c 1820. I have records of them until 1832 in Surrey then they disappear, knowing my luck they probably died between 1832 and 1837 when death records started but I live in hope! I am also seeking their elusive children... Thomas PEARSON b c 1820 Rotherhithe (thought to have been transported to Aus in 1836) William James PEARSON bc 1821 Rotherhithe Charlotte PEARSON bc 1823 Rotherhithe EDWARD JOHN PEARSON (my ggetc) b 1825 Rotherhithe, known to be in Rotherhithe or Bermondsey with wife and daughter (both Elizabeth) in 1851 exact location desperately sought! George PEARSON bc 1827 Rotherhithe Dinah PEARSON bc 1829 Rotherhithe I have scanned the entire 1841 for Rotherhithe (no an easy task, it is very faded) for this family with no joy as well as checking out the St Caths BMD indexes so an 1851 look up would be very much appreciated. I already have all the details of the family from the IGI. Thanks for any help Jane -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.14/131 - Release Date: 12/10/2005

Hi Jane, >Is there any KS who could do a look up for me on the 1851 now it is >available? (I understand Ancestry allow this) Ancestry stopped researchers using the 1851 Census yesterday, Ancestry hope to be putting the 1851 Census for general use sometime this year. Regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "J T Pearson Outdoor Training" <jtpoutdoor@xtra.co.nz> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:05 PM Subject: RE: [Ham] 1851 Census lookup request | Hi all | Is there any KS who could do a look up for me on the 1851 now it is | available? (I understand Ancestry allow this) | | I am seeking | William and/or Diana/Dinah PEARSON | Diana/Dinah was born in 1795 in Portsmouth, William is of unknown origin but | the couple married in Alverstoke. | The couple moved to Rotherhithe in Surrey c 1820. | | I have records of them until 1832 in Surrey then they disappear, knowing my | luck they probably died between 1832 and 1837 when death records started but | I live in hope! | | I am also seeking their elusive children... | | Thomas PEARSON b c 1820 Rotherhithe (thought to have been transported to Aus | in 1836) | William James PEARSON bc 1821 Rotherhithe | Charlotte PEARSON bc 1823 Rotherhithe | | EDWARD JOHN PEARSON (my ggetc) b 1825 Rotherhithe, known to be in | Rotherhithe or Bermondsey with wife and daughter (both Elizabeth) in 1851 | exact location desperately sought! | | George PEARSON bc 1827 Rotherhithe | Dinah PEARSON bc 1829 Rotherhithe | | I have scanned the entire 1841 for Rotherhithe (no an easy task, it is very | faded) for this family with no joy as well as checking out the St Caths BMD | indexes so an 1851 look up would be very much appreciated. | I already have all the details of the family from the IGI. | | Thanks for any help | Jane | | -- | No virus found in this outgoing message. | Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. | Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.14/131 - Release Date: 12/10/2005 | | | | ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== | Treat others as you wish to be treated yourselves, with respect | Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk | |

Hi Jane. Unfotuantely the link to the 1851 census is no longer working. Hopefully it will be uploaded to the Main ancestry site shortly. Regards Maureen PS. However, the 1871 census has been updated. ----- Original Message ----- From: "J T Pearson Outdoor Training" <jtpoutdoor@xtra.co.nz> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:05 PM Subject: RE: [Ham] 1851 Census lookup request > Hi all > Is there any KS who could do a look up for me on the 1851 now it is > available? (I understand Ancestry allow this) > > I am seeking > William and/or Diana/Dinah PEARSON > Diana/Dinah was born in 1795 in Portsmouth, William is of unknown origin > but > the couple married in Alverstoke. > The couple moved to Rotherhithe in Surrey c 1820. > > I have records of them until 1832 in Surrey then they disappear, knowing > my > luck they probably died between 1832 and 1837 when death records started > but > I live in hope! > > I am also seeking their elusive children... > > Thomas PEARSON b c 1820 Rotherhithe (thought to have been transported to > Aus > in 1836) > William James PEARSON bc 1821 Rotherhithe > Charlotte PEARSON bc 1823 Rotherhithe > > EDWARD JOHN PEARSON (my ggetc) b 1825 Rotherhithe, known to be in > Rotherhithe or Bermondsey with wife and daughter (both Elizabeth) in 1851 > exact location desperately sought! > > George PEARSON bc 1827 Rotherhithe > Dinah PEARSON bc 1829 Rotherhithe > > I have scanned the entire 1841 for Rotherhithe (no an easy task, it is > very > faded) for this family with no joy as well as checking out the St Caths > BMD > indexes so an 1851 look up would be very much appreciated. > I already have all the details of the family from the IGI. > > Thanks for any help > Jane > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.14/131 - Release Date: > 12/10/2005 > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Treat others as you wish to be treated yourselves, with respect > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > > >