Hi, Try this site... For anyone interested here's the URL for Kew: http://catalogue.pro.gov.uk/ExternalRequest.asp?RequestReference=ri2035 Cheers, Edna - Ottawa

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Following on from the information I have previously received from the list could anyone with access to the 1841 census have a look for a William and Sarah Offer residing in probably Hampshire. William was born circa 1805. Any info would be much appreciated. With thanks in advance and regards Ron Alexander -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.7/154 - Release Date: 01/11/2005

Regarding this mistranscription - if you enter three letters followed by an asterisk (ie, BAK*) this can sometimes help. Certainly works on Ancestry anyway. I have found several mistranscribed names this way. Just recently, found my WARMANs actually written very clearly by the enumerator as WARMOUTH! To make matters worse mother Keziah was entered as Therezia! Without that asterisk method I would never have found them. HTH. Dorothy Morrissey Whakatane, NZ Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Hi Patsy, Thanks for your email. Unfortunately I can find nothing out about Eliza Duffey. She did have two sisters that were in the House of Industry and I have managed to find them and I know that Eliza had a child Walter in 1852 there also but do not know where she was in 1851. Most of the tobacco is grown at Myrtleford just a few kms away from Wangaratta but there are now lots of wineries up and running. Regards - Brenda a@xtra.co.nz> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 2:06 AM Subject: Re: [Ham] BAKER > Hi Brenda - I didn't see any Eliza DUFFEY born Woolwich but there is an > Emma DUFFEY born Woolwich at the House of Industry, Carisbrook in 1851. > this is in the district of Newport, Isle of Wight. As their first child > appears to have been born Newport, Isle of Wight, this could be a link? > > Sorry if it's a false lead. > Regards, Patsy - New Zealand > PS I visited Wangaratta some years ago to research the local > tobacco-growing industry. Is that where you are? If so, it's a lovely part > of Victoria. > > > > >> Can some kind soul help me please. Over the past months I have helped a >> few people with the 1851 census lookups but when it came to searching for >> myself it was another thing altogether. I know my family are on the 1851 >> census but I just cannot find them. I am looking for >> >> Michael Baker born 1828 Hartley Wintney >> Eliza Baker nee Duffey born 1831 Woolwich >> >> If anyone comes across them would you please let me know. >> >> Brenda - Wangaratta >> > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > If all our ancestors were in a tree what a BIG tree -house that would be! >

Hi Brenda - I didn't see any Eliza DUFFEY born Woolwich but there is an Emma DUFFEY born Woolwich at the House of Industry, Carisbrook in 1851. this is in the district of Newport, Isle of Wight. As their first child appears to have been born Newport, Isle of Wight, this could be a link? Sorry if it's a false lead. Regards, Patsy - New Zealand PS I visited Wangaratta some years ago to research the local tobacco-growing industry. Is that where you are? If so, it's a lovely part of Victoria. > Can some kind soul help me please. Over the past months I have helped a > few people with the 1851 census lookups but when it came to searching for > myself it was another thing altogether. I know my family are on the 1851 > census but I just cannot find them. I am looking for > > Michael Baker born 1828 Hartley Wintney > Eliza Baker nee Duffey born 1831 Woolwich > > If anyone comes across them would you please let me know. > > Brenda - Wangaratta >

Good one Edna I enjoyed that it, it put a smile on my face. Jennette Gest nee Byrne QLD AUS jgest@tpg.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edna" <ekbrit@rogers.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 7:27 AM Subject: [Ham] The computer's swallowed Grandma! > Hi, > > Seeing that the lists are a little slow thought you would like to hear > my song ~~ > > Edna ~ Ottawa > ~~~~~ > > THE COMPUTER'S SWALLOWED GRANDMA!! > The computer's swallowed grandma > Yes' honestly' it's true > She pressed 'control' and 'enter' > And disappeared from view. > Its devoured her completely > The thought just makes me squirm > Maybe she's caught a virus > Or been eaten by a worm. > I've searched through the recycle bin > And files of every kind > I've even used the internet > But nothing did I find. > In desperation I asked Jeeves > My searches to refine > The reply from him was negative > Not a thing was found 'online'. > So, if inside your 'In Box' > My Grandma you should see > Please 'Scan', 'Copy' and 'Paste' her > In an e-mail back to me. > > > > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > A genealogist NEVER dies he just grows more roots > > >

Hi Edna. Loved your poem, just hope it doesn't happen to me. Jacqueline

Hi John, Many thanks for the information. I tried every spelling to find them but obviously did not try Bake. Thanks a lot - Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "J P NIXEY" <jpnixey@btinternet.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [Ham] BAKER > Dear Brenda, > > Here is your family, I believe? > > Kind regards, Jon > > Civil parish: Hartley Wintney > County/Island: Hampshire > Country: England > > Registration district: Hartley Wintney > Sub-registration district: Odiham > ED, institution, or vessel: 2a > Folio: 257 > Page: 47 > Household schedule number: 169 > GSU Number: 193588 > > Sarah Bake abt 1788 Crondall, Hampshire, England Head > Eliza Bake abt 1814 Hartley Row, Hampshire, England Daughter > Michael Bake abt 1828 Hartley Row, Hampshire, England Son > Sarah Bake abt 1830 Hartley Row, Hampshire, England Daughter > Chana Bake abt 1817 Heston, Middlesex, England Visitor > William Judd abt 1831 Hartley Row, Hampshire, England Visitor > William Wight abt 1833 Odiham, Hampshire, England Visitor > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/151 - Release Date: 10/28/05 > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Parish Register transcriptions for some parishes are available on line at > www.knightroots.co.uk - click "parish registers" >

Thanks Lynda for the information. It helps me greatly. Brenda' ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynda Ahmad" <lynda@ahmad1.freeserve.co.uk> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [Ham] BAKER > Were Michael and Eliza married by 1851? I've found a 23 year old > unmarried > Michael Baker living with his widowed mother Sarah in Hartley Wintney. > His > birthplace is shown as Hartley Row (Ref. HO107/1680 ED2a Fol 257 P47). I > haven't had any luck with Eliza. > > Best wishes, > Lynda > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brenda" >> . I know my family are on the 1851 census but I just cannot find them. >> I > am looking for >> >> Michael Baker born 1828 Hartley Wintney >> Eliza Baker nee Duffey born 1831 Woolwich >> Brenda - Wangaratta > > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Spring clean your tree and see if you can dust off some new rellies > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk > also Hampshire Look up Exchange at > http://members.madasafish.com/~caroldolton/index.htm >

Can some kind soul help me please. Over the past months I have helped a few people with the 1851 census lookups but when it came to searching for myself it was another thing altogether. I know my family are on the 1851 census but I just cannot find them. I am looking for Michael Baker born 1828 Hartley Wintney Eliza Baker nee Duffey born 1831 Woolwich If anyone comes across them would you please let me know. Brenda - Wangaratta

Hi Kathleen Many thanks for confirming my theory. I obviously was pursuing the wrong Bellingers (South Hayling). Hi Steve Thanks for the advice. Yes I have come across examples of people giving the wrong ages but in this instance I was fairly certain that I had unearthed two families in the area with daughters about the same age and with the same name ... not unusual I know ... and I was following the wrong line. That can be a problem when you are researching from a distance and only have access to either incomplete or limited records. However, that situation is improving all the time as more and more records appear on websites and other people on lists like this are willing to do look ups. Gill

Hi listers, I'm looking for anyone with information on a Ronald Hamilton BOSS and his family. He married Betty Mary ALBRAY December 16, 1935 in Portsmouth. Betty died in the Illoura Baptist Care Facility, Norwood, South Australia November 12, 2001 aged 92. Any info very gratefully received. many thanks to all, Jon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/151 - Release Date: 10/28/05

I have been away from this research for a while, and am not sure what correspondence and info there has been on these Census. If anyone is able, I would be grateful for a search for ROBERT HEATH in both. His second marriage was to Ellen NEWLAND at SELBORNE, in 1847 . One of the witnesses was John HEATH. I don't know of any children of the first marriage, or his wife's name. By 1851 Ellen was in Van Dieman' s Land,with baby daughter, Mary Ann Heath, who died a month after arrival there in 1850... I do not know his age at marriage, only that he was "an older man". . Ellen was about 21 when they married. I believe he was a carpenter. Thankyou very much to anyone who can help. Shirley (Australia)

Dear Brenda, Here is your family, I believe? Kind regards, Jon Civil parish: Hartley Wintney County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Hartley Wintney Sub-registration district: Odiham ED, institution, or vessel: 2a Folio: 257 Page: 47 Household schedule number: 169 GSU Number: 193588 Sarah Bake abt 1788 Crondall, Hampshire, England Head Eliza Bake abt 1814 Hartley Row, Hampshire, England Daughter Michael Bake abt 1828 Hartley Row, Hampshire, England Son Sarah Bake abt 1830 Hartley Row, Hampshire, England Daughter Chana Bake abt 1817 Heston, Middlesex, England Visitor William Judd abt 1831 Hartley Row, Hampshire, England Visitor William Wight abt 1833 Odiham, Hampshire, England Visitor -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/151 - Release Date: 10/28/05

Were Michael and Eliza married by 1851? I've found a 23 year old unmarried Michael Baker living with his widowed mother Sarah in Hartley Wintney. His birthplace is shown as Hartley Row (Ref. HO107/1680 ED2a Fol 257 P47). I haven't had any luck with Eliza. Best wishes, Lynda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda" > . I know my family are on the 1851 census but I just cannot find them. I am looking for > > Michael Baker born 1828 Hartley Wintney > Eliza Baker nee Duffey born 1831 Woolwich > Brenda - Wangaratta

Gill, I know you'll find this hard to believe, but people (men and women) did lie about their ages in the census - bear that in mind! I've found folk that only aged 5 or 6 years per census which is a good trick and I on;y wish I knew how to do it! Steve (forty-something-ish) Gill Jones wrote: > Thanks to all the people who responded to my query about the 1851 census. I'll investigate the various sources. > > In the meantime I would be grateful if Kathleen in Chicago could check the whereabouts of Ellen Bellinger. I thought I had found her baptism in 1837 in South Hayling but the 1861 census gives her age about 3/4 years younger (therefore about 1840/41) and lists Portsea as her birthplace. I was wondering whether there were two Ellen Bellingers in the area at the time. I thought the 1851 census might be able to clear this up as she would still presumeably have been living with her parents at the time. > Thanks > Gill > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Genealogy is contagious and you don't have to sneeze to pass it on > >

Very very clever I loved it. Moira Victoria Moira Simmonds Armstrong, B.C. Can. victoria@cnx.net WhiteHawk Clumber Spaniels www.fuzzyfaces.com/whitehawk1.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edna" <ekbrit@rogers.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 1:27 PM

Hi, Seeing that the lists are a little slow thought you would like to hear my song ~~ Edna ~ Ottawa ~~~~~ THE COMPUTER'S SWALLOWED GRANDMA!! The computer's swallowed grandma Yes' honestly' it's true She pressed 'control' and 'enter' And disappeared from view. Its devoured her completely The thought just makes me squirm Maybe she's caught a virus Or been eaten by a worm. I've searched through the recycle bin And files of every kind I've even used the internet But nothing did I find. In desperation I asked Jeeves My searches to refine The reply from him was negative Not a thing was found 'online'. So, if inside your 'In Box' My Grandma you should see Please 'Scan', 'Copy' and 'Paste' her In an e-mail back to me.