Have been looking at St Martin's Parish records on microfilm and found this stray. Sarah Brown OSMOND buried 13 Mar 1907 abode Boscombe Hampshire, age 76 years (page 161 entry 1287) from LDS Microfilm No. 1279368 Hope it helps someone. Rosalie

Hi Jean Sorry about the delay in replying. I was offline for a few days. Thanks for the info. Both William Marsh' (1780 & 1811) look right. The second entry seems to confirm that William married twice. I had previously discovered that he had a daughter Amelia by his wife Honor and a son William born abt 1843 to a William and Mary Ann Marsh. William (b. 1811) must have been the father of both of these children which is what I had suspected. I am very grateful for your help. Gill North Wales UK

Hi Alan - 1851 the family is in Holborn St Andrew, Middlesex (indexed as MUERY) Eyre St Henry ALBUERY 31 Potman. B Alton, Hants Mary Ann 32. b Portsmouth Henry 8. B Lambeth, Surrey Ann Elizabeth 6. B London, MSX Alfred 4. B London, MSX Harriet 1. B London, MSX Amelia WOODALL? 13. B Lambeth, Surrey This doesn't tell you much more but at least they are where you thought they should be! Cheers, Patsy - New Zealand. > Hello Hampshire Listers, > > This is my first visit to the list. > > I'm looking for more details of my g g grandfather Henry ALBURY b c 1818 > in Alton and his wife Mary Ann, according to the 1861 census the family > were all together at Saffron Hill, Middlesex:- > > Mary ALBURY (nee WOODHALL) b c 1818 Portsmouth > Henry b c 1843 Lambeth > Ann b c 1846 Holborn St Andrew > Alfred b c 1848 Holborn St Andrew > Harriett b c 1852 Holborn St Andrew > Joseph b c 1853 Holborn St Andrew > > I cannot find any of the family including the older children in the 1851 > census. > > The parents were married c 1852 and Henry died before his son Henry's > second marriage on 28 May 1882. > > Henry & Joseph's birth and marriage certificates subsequently spelt the > surname as ALBUREY. > > Any assistance on where to look next, including a look-up in the 1841 > census, would be gratefully appreciated. > > Thanks in anticipation. > > Alan > in Guildford

Hello Hampshire Listers, This is my first visit to the list. I'm looking for more details of my g g grandfather Henry ALBURY b c 1818 in Alton and his wife Mary Ann, according to the 1861 census the family were all together at Saffron Hill, Middlesex:- Mary ALBURY (nee WOODHALL) b c 1818 Portsmouth Henry b c 1843 Lambeth Ann b c 1846 Holborn St Andrew Alfred b c 1848 Holborn St Andrew Harriett b c 1852 Holborn St Andrew Joseph b c 1853 Holborn St Andrew I cannot find any of the family including the older children in the 1851 census. The parents were married c 1852 and Henry died before his son Henry's second marriage on 28 May 1882. Henry & Joseph's birth and marriage certificates subsequently spelt the surname as ALBUREY. Any assistance on where to look next, including a look-up in the 1841 census, would be gratefully appreciated. Thanks in anticipation. Alan in Guildford

The Christmas opening hours can be seen at http://www.hants.gov.uk/record-office/ for those of us planning ahead. Linda and Tony

Taken from http://uk.biz.yahoo.com/moneyweekly/budget2005/quirkyfacts.html Dodgy taxes These days we grit our teeth and wait for Budget news on alcohol, tobacco and fuel duties, or inheritance, stamp duty or capital gains tax. But back in the nineteenth century you would have been taxed according to how many dogs you had. Tax collectors apparently used to kick the front door and count how many barks there were. How's that for a _stealth tax_ (http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/finance/mw/artlink/*http://uk.biz.yahoo.com/moneyweekly/stealthtaxes.html) . Taxes on hats, dice, clocks, salt, hair powder, gloves, artificial flowers, menservants, game certificates and armorial bearings have also been used in the past. In the first half of the nineteenth century people were even taxed according to how many windows their house had, which eventually led to many houses having windows bricked up. But tax oddities are by no means a thing of the distant past. McVities fought a tribunal case in 1991 against the classification of Jaffa Cakes as a VAT-able chocolate–covered biscuit. It asserted that they were instead a tax-free cake, and won its case by bringing a giant 12-inch Jaffa Cake to the hearing. Until the 1970s it was possible to buy a 12-foot ladder for less than a nine-inch one, because the shorter ladder was taxable, while the longer one was not. Linda and Tony

A useful information site http://www.british-genealogy.com/resources/info/sdates.html Linda and Tony

A tax on the use of Hair Powder was introduced by an Act of Parliament in 1795. Citizens who wore powdered wigs (or powdered their hair direct) had to obtain a certificate from the local Justices of the Peace to confirm that they had paid the annual tax of one guinea [ £1 1s 0d, or £1.05 in modern money ]. Take care Linda & Tony

Hi all Have a look at http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/ Lots of info on various historical topics such as railways, factories, child labour, Take care Linda & Tony

That was quite a large tax as 1 guinea in 1798 was worth about £77.64 in 2004, calculated on retail price index David From: "Tony Knight" <tony.knight@tiscali.co.uk> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: [Ham] Did you know that.............. > A tax on the use of Hair Powder was introduced by an Act of Parliament in > 1795. Citizens who wore powdered wigs (or powdered their hair direct) had to > obtain a certificate from the local Justices of the Peace to confirm that > they had paid the annual tax of one guinea [ £1 1s 0d, or £1.05 in modern > money ]. > > Take care > Linda & Tony > > > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk >

Thankyou Edna, I'll try again. Shirley (Aust) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edna" <ekbrit@rogers.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 10:36 AM Subject: [Ham] Ministry of Defence - UK > Think you should look through the site, pick out the National Archives > section, Military, and put the name in and possibly several will come up, > then choose the one which is yours, or the one you think is yours., >. > > Edna - Ottawa > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Powley" <powley2@bigpond.com> > To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 4:50 PM > Subject: Re: [Ham] Ministry of Defence - UK > > > Edna - I was very interested in this site, but I'm not terribly > experienced > in finding my way around web sites. Does the correspondence about this > that > I have been reading, mean that I can find somewhere to type in a soldier's > name and perhaps find info. on him? I just thought I might find an Albert > Crawshaw who I surmise would have been in the Yorks and Lancs, and I know > he > was in India just before 1900. I keep clicking on things which I think > might > lead me to something , but no luck!!! > Thanks for any help with this, if it won't waste your time. > Just for the record, I have my Albert above, my grandad (Br. Imp.Army c > 1892 and Boer War) and my g. g. grandad, Hampshire Militia, c 1820's. > Shirley (Australia) > > From: "Edna" <ekbrit@rogers.com> > To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 12:53 AM > Subject: [Ham] Ministry of Defence - UK > > >> >> >> Military Records, etc. - a good site: >> >> http://www.mod.uk/contacts/army_records.htm >> >> Edna - Ottawa >> >> >> >> ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Parish Register transcriptions for some parishes are available on line at >> www.knightroots.co.uk - click "parish registers" >> > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Our ancestors never die > heaven knows where they goes. > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Turn over a new leaf - there might be a new ancestor hiding underneath > Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk >

Hi Jean, Thank you for this information, Walter Thomas Mallyon is my grandfather, I also sent this message to Edna. Regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: <GillettHistory@aol.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [Ham] Ministry of Defence - UK Hello Barbara. My grandfather was also in Mesopotamia and I was able to download details of his Medal, for that time, on the National Archives Documents on line.It cost £3.50. I have just looked on the site and put in Walter Mallyon and this came up. Walter T. Mallyon, RASC Private, 1914-1920....could he be yours.? My grandfather was a Regular Soldier from 1902 till 1922.You also find his Army No. in the Medal details, which enables you to send for his full Army Record.I was very lucky,they had survived the last war damage and for £25 I received 8 sides of A4, photo copies of his records, all fully dated. It included full Medical details, his travels,his promotions etc.etc.He left for Mesopotamia Thursday March 18th 1820 and returned Dec.6th 1821. It also included his Next of Kin addresses which helped sort out where my Mother and Grandmother lived at that time. It certainly was the best £25 I have ever spent.This was in 2002 from the MOD Records at Hayes.I believe it is a different address nowadays. Hope this helps, Best wishes Jean in Hampshire. ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== Our ancestors never die heaven knows where they goes.

Hi Edna, Walter Thomas MALLYON is my grandfather, I will go on the website to see if there is any other information. Many thanks. Regards Barbara Lewis Mallyon Basingstoke, Hants, UK BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edna" <ekbrit@rogers.com> To: "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> Cc: "Hampshire-L" <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 4:10 PM Subject: [Ham] Ministry of Defence - UK | You are most welcome. I just got it from another site. I had the addresses | etc. in my files but takes ages to find anything around here. | | I wrote years ago about my Dad (Edward George Knight 1905-1998); he was sent | a medal but must have gotten "lost" as it was sent in Nov. '48 and we had | just left the house for move to Canada in Dec. '48/Feb.'49. They gave me | lots of information on him all for free but not sure if it's free now. | | Mesopotamia, would that be the Crimea War? Should be some good sites out | there for you. | | Good Luck, | | Edna - Ottawa | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> | To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 10:56 AM | Subject: Re: [Ham] Ministry of Defence - UK | | | Hi Edna, | | Thank you for this website it is just what I need. The website was last | Updated: | 9 Aug 04, I have just written to the MOD as this information may have | changed, and have asked them to update this website. Address, telephone | numbers and information etc., change, especially when it comes to government | offices. | | Walter MALLYON whom I never knew, was my grandfather he fought in | Mesopotamia, I would like to get his medal/s if there are any to have. | | Regards | | Barbara Lewis Mallyon | Basingstoke, Hants, UK | BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Edna" <ekbrit@rogers.com> | To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 2:53 PM | Subject: [Ham] Ministry of Defence - UK | | | | | | | | Military Records, etc. - a good site: | | | | http://www.mod.uk/contacts/army_records.htm | | | | Edna - Ottawa | | | | | | | | ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== | | Parish Register transcriptions for some parishes are available on line at | www.knightroots.co.uk - click "parish registers" | | | | | | | ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== | Genealogy is contagious and you don't have to sneeze to pass it on | |

Edna - I was very interested in this site, but I'm not terribly experienced in finding my way around web sites. Does the correspondence about this that I have been reading, mean that I can find somewhere to type in a soldier's name and perhaps find info. on him? I just thought I might find an Albert Crawshaw who I surmise would have been in the Yorks and Lancs, and I know he was in India just before 1900. I keep clicking on things which I think might lead me to something , but no luck!!! Thanks for any help with this, if it won't waste your time. Just for the record, I have my Albert above, my grandad (Br. Imp.Army c 1892 and Boer War) and my g. g. grandad, Hampshire Militia, c 1820's. Shirley (Australia) From: "Edna" <ekbrit@rogers.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 12:53 AM Subject: [Ham] Ministry of Defence - UK > > > Military Records, etc. - a good site: > > http://www.mod.uk/contacts/army_records.htm > > Edna - Ottawa > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Parish Register transcriptions for some parishes are available on line at > www.knightroots.co.uk - click "parish registers" >

More likely he left in 1920 and returned in 1921. -- Best regards, Peter McNulty pj@sparshott.org.uk www.sparshott.org.uk Researching: SPARSHOTT families world-wide (especially Hants) ----- Original Message ----- From: <GillettHistory@aol.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [Ham] Ministry of Defence - UK .He left for Mesopotamia Thursday March 18th 1820 and returned Dec.6th 1821. >

Hi Edna Mesopotamia has been shortened to Iraq so that Dubbya can remember how to pronounce it. Great Britain ruled Mesopotamia under mandate (probably from the League of Nations) after it was taken from Turkey at the end of WW1. Lawrence of Arabia fought there. With 90,000 British troops there in 1920 there must be a Hampshire link however tenuous. The Crimean War lasted from 28 March 1854 until 1856. It was fought between Russia and an alliance of the United Kingdom, France, and the Ottoman Empire, joined somewhat tardily by Piedmont-Sardinia. The majority of the conflict took place on the Crimean peninsula in the Black Sea. -- Best regards, Peter McNulty pj@sparshott.org.uk www.sparshott.org.uk Researching: SPARSHOTT families world-wide (especially Hants) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edna" <ekbrit@rogers.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 4:10 PM Subject: [Ham] Ministry of Defence - UK > > Mesopotamia, would that be the Crimea War? Should be some good sites out > there for you. > > Good Luck, > > Edna - Ottawa > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> > To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 10:56 AM > Subject: Re: [Ham] Ministry of Defence - UK > > Walter MALLYON whom I never knew, was my grandfather he fought in > Mesopotamia, I would like to get his medal/s if there are any to have. > > Regards > > Barbara Lewis Mallyon > Basingstoke, Hants, UK > BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk

I have recently visited this and found it fascinating well worth a visit but the beer was a bit rough. bob ----- Original Message ----- From: <PublicityHGS@aol.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 8:45 PM Subject: [Ham] Milestones Museum Basingstoke > > One of the latest objects to join the fascinating displays at Milestones, > Hampshire’s Living History Museum, in Basingstoke is a magnificent 1920s > soda > fountain, complete with all original fittings. > > The fountain, the real Rolls Royce of carbonated drinks dispensers, was > purchased in 1929 by a Mr Grenham, who ran the tea shop at Church > Crookham, for > the princely sum of £108 12s 6d. > The soda fountain was prepared for display by a member of the team of > expert > conservators working at the Headquarters of the Museums Service in > Winchester. > The team’s main role is to preserve Hampshire’s history for posterity; > prolonging the life of the county’s diverse collections – ranging from > historic > costume and priceless ceramics to ancient archaeological treasures and > works > of art. > The Soda Fountain joins an amazing selection of over 20,000 everyday > objects > brought to life at Milestones, home to almost a mile of Victorian and > 1930s > shops and streets. Visitors won’t miss The Fountain – it has pride of > place > near the Museum’s main entrance. > For details tel 01256 477766 > email _stephen.hoadley@hants.gov.uk_ (mailto:stephen.hoadley@hants.gov.uk) > Linda & Tony > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > If all our ancestors were in a tree what a BIG tree -house that would be! >

Documents on line, for L3.50 you can order ~ documentsonline@pro.gov.uk Edna - Ottawa

Thank you Peter. It is much clearer to me now. With appreciation, Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter McNulty" <peter@sparshott.org.uk> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [Ham] Ministry of Defence - UK Hi Edna Mesopotamia has been shortened to Iraq so that Dubbya can remember how to pronounce it. Great Britain ruled Mesopotamia under mandate (probably from the League of Nations) after it was taken from Turkey at the end of WW1. Lawrence of Arabia fought there. With 90,000 British troops there in 1920 there must be a Hampshire link however tenuous. The Crimean War lasted from 28 March 1854 until 1856. It was fought between Russia and an alliance of the United Kingdom, France, and the Ottoman Empire, joined somewhat tardily by Piedmont-Sardinia. The majority of the conflict took place on the Crimean peninsula in the Black Sea. -- Best regards, Peter McNulty pj@sparshott.org.uk www.sparshott.org.uk Researching: SPARSHOTT families world-wide (especially Hants) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edna" <ekbrit@rogers.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 4:10 PM Subject: [Ham] Ministry of Defence - UK > > Mesopotamia, would that be the Crimea War? Should be some good sites out > there for you. > > Good Luck, > > Edna - Ottawa > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Mallyon" <BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk> > To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 10:56 AM > Subject: Re: [Ham] Ministry of Defence - UK > > Walter MALLYON whom I never knew, was my grandfather he fought in > Mesopotamia, I would like to get his medal/s if there are any to have. > > Regards > > Barbara Lewis Mallyon > Basingstoke, Hants, UK > BarbaraMallyon@lewmal.co.uk ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== If all our ancestors were in a tree what a BIG tree -house that would be!

Hi, Even though I put these sites on the list does not mean I'm an expert as to there contents. Think you should look through the site, pick out the National Archives section, Military, and put the name in and possibly several will come up, then choose the one which is yours, or the one you think is yours. Take down all the particulars. Then you would have to send for the information, not sure what it would cost. It must tell you there. Hope you are successful. Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Powley" <powley2@bigpond.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [Ham] Ministry of Defence - UK Edna - I was very interested in this site, but I'm not terribly experienced in finding my way around web sites. Does the correspondence about this that I have been reading, mean that I can find somewhere to type in a soldier's name and perhaps find info. on him? I just thought I might find an Albert Crawshaw who I surmise would have been in the Yorks and Lancs, and I know he was in India just before 1900. I keep clicking on things which I think might lead me to something , but no luck!!! Thanks for any help with this, if it won't waste your time. Just for the record, I have my Albert above, my grandad (Br. Imp.Army c 1892 and Boer War) and my g. g. grandad, Hampshire Militia, c 1820's. Shirley (Australia) From: "Edna" <ekbrit@rogers.com> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 12:53 AM Subject: [Ham] Ministry of Defence - UK > > > Military Records, etc. - a good site: > > http://www.mod.uk/contacts/army_records.htm > > Edna - Ottawa > > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Parish Register transcriptions for some parishes are available on line at > www.knightroots.co.uk - click "parish registers" > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== Our ancestors never die heaven knows where they goes.