Dear Listers, Sorry to be a nuisance, I found the answer to my own question re "Where is Warsash" by using Google and Find a Map. Unfortunately 'Warsash' was not in Par Loc or any of the England maps I have. Now could someone tell me where I can find which parish Warsash is in. ? Regards, Carole (in Oz)

Hello Listers, The 1851 census for Alverstoke has an entry for William Butler as born "Hampshire, Warsash" (or Wansash) Would anyone have any idea where this is, please ?. Regards, Carole (in Oz)

Again I would like to request census lookups for 1901 Amos Knight 45, born Arundell, actually Burpham) W Ssx wife Elizabeth 50 born Portsmouth James Knight 61 born (Arundell? actually Patching) W Ssx wife Mary A 59 born Portsmouth, Hamp many thanks in advance, GAIL in Ontario -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/189 - Release Date: 11/30/05

Warsash is still here today and is about 3 miles west of Fareham. Hope this helps. If you doo a google search for Warsash it will come up trumps too. Take care,Linda and Tony The 1851 census for Alverstoke has an entry for William Butler as born "Hampshire, Warsash" (or Wansash) Would anyone have any idea where this is, please ?.

Hi Carole Warsash is SE of Southampton on the east side of the River Hamble. If you go to the following GENUKI site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/churchdb/search.html and enter Warsash and Hampshire it will show the following Parishes with their distance and direction from Warsash ~ 1 W Church of England, Hamble le Rice ~ 2 NW Church of England, Hound ~ 2 NNW Church of England, Bursledon ~ 3 ESE Church of England, Titchfield On face value it looks like Hamble but it, and the next two possibles, mean that the Parishioners of Warsash would need to cross the river Hamble to pray so it may be that it comes under the Parish of Titchfield. Hope this helps rather than confuses Peter Jones Studying Trus(s)lers world wide

You are correct Peter, Warsash is within the parish of Titchfield. It is at times called Hook with Warsash David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Jones" <lpjones@csma-netlink.co.uk> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 8:43 PM Subject: RE: [Ham] Warsash - what parish ? > Hi Carole > > > Warsash is SE of Southampton on the east side of the River Hamble. > > If you go to the following GENUKI site > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/churchdb/search.html > > and enter Warsash and Hampshire it will show the following Parishes with > their distance and direction from Warsash > > > ~ 1 W Church of England, Hamble le Rice > ~ 2 NW Church of England, Hound > ~ 2 NNW Church of England, Bursledon > ~ 3 ESE Church of England, Titchfield > > > On face value it looks like Hamble but it, and the next two possibles, mean > that the Parishioners of Warsash would need to cross the river Hamble to > pray so it may be that it comes under the Parish of Titchfield. > > > Hope this helps rather than confuses > > > Peter Jones > > Studying Trus(s)lers world wide > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Our ancestors never die > heaven knows where they goes. >

Portsea, 1871 census, RG10/1142, Hampshire, Portsea, Landport, St. Paul, District 27, page44 James Knight, 29, single, Arundel, Hampshire, merchant seaman living with Amos Knight, 26, married, Bedford, Bedfordshire, merchant seaman Elizabeth Knight, 21, married, Portsmouth, Hants, needlewoman No 1861 entries that match 1851, Sussex, Angmering, District 7C, HO 107/1651 Amos Knight abt 1845 Burpham, Sussex, England Son Angmering Sussex James Knight abt 1842 Patching, Sussex,England Son Angmering Sussex John Knight abt 1839 Patching, Sussex,England Son Angmering Sussex Martha Knight abt 1850 Angmering, Sussex, England Daughter Angmering Sussex Mary Knight abt 1809 Bignor, Sussex, England Wife Angmering Sussex William Knight abt 1799 Ashling, Sussex, England Head Angmering Sussex On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, Gail Collins wrote: > Hoping for 1861 census lookup for brothers in Merchant Marines probably > stationed/living in Portsmouth or Portsea area of Hampshire. > > William James Knight, 28 born Burpham, W Ssx > John Arthur Knight, 22, born Burpham, W Ssx > James Knight 20, born Patching, W Ssx > > ALSO 1871 cenus lookup - living in Portsmouth or Portsea area, Hampshire > James KNIGHT, 30, born Arundel, West Sussex & wife Mary 29 born > Portsmouth > William James Knight 38 born Burpham, W Ssx > John Arthur Knight 32 born Burpham, W Ssx -- Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp mailto: kippeeb@magma.ca

Hi. Did you check Streetmap & Multimap site -- you will see Alverstoke, Warsash and Gosport. Good Luck, Edna - Ottawa

Hi Jean I have a Harry, and James Bulpitt in my family too, also William. Mine originated from Romsey area. Joan

Have you check Streetmap or Multimap sites? Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol T" <laurel@optusnet.com.au> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [Ham] 1851 Census for BUTLER Hello Listers, The 1851 census for Alverstoke has an entry for William Butler as born "Hampshire, Warsash" (or Wansash) Would anyone have any idea where this is, please ?. Regards, Carole (in Oz) ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== Spring clean your tree and see if you can dust off some new rellies Visit the knightroots website at www.knightroots.co.uk also Hampshire Look up Exchange at http://members.madasafish.com/~caroldolton/index.htm

Hi Liz I also have Lane, Warne & Sheath family names from the I.O.W. within my own family. My father was William Lane (born 1902 Southampton). My grandfather was William Richard Henry Lane(born West Cowes 1868) My great grandfather William Lane (born Northwood 1840) married Elizabeth Harding Warne (born Northwood 1837). My gggrandfather was Richard Lane (born abt 1813) One of his sons was named George (born abt 1846) Elizabeth Harding Warne's father was Leonard Warne (born 1792 Shalfleet) Leonard's parents were William Warne (born Northwood 1761) and Ann Sheath. They were married at Carisbrooke 1781. Do any of these names crop up in your database? Gill

Melissa, I note that you mentioned your family are all from Australia. Can you tell me when your BULPIT family emigrated from the Millbrook area, also when & where your great grandfathers Harry & William Henry were born.? I maybe able to make a connection for you as I have a James BULPIT on my tree but have been unable to establish where he came from. Jean.

Hello Ron Sorry the marriage isn't in Andover so looks like another parish in the Andover district. Linda & Tony: Hi Linda and Tony, I see you have the fiche for Andover marriages, so could you possibly look up the above names please, plus the relevant details. They were married the 4th Qtr. 1917 in the Andover District, according to the FreeBMD. I have looked at the other likely places where they could have married (Frank was born in Andover and Rose in Abbotts Ann), so I'm assuming it would be Andover, because I have the Parish Registers for Abbotts Ann. Regards Ron Weeks

Hoping for 1861 census lookup for brothers in Merchant Marines probably stationed/living in Portsmouth or Portsea area of Hampshire. William James Knight, 28 born Burpham, W Ssx John Arthur Knight, 22, born Burpham, W Ssx James Knight 20, born Patching, W Ssx ALSO 1871 cenus lookup - living in Portsmouth or Portsea area, Hampshire James KNIGHT, 30, born Arundel, West Sussex & wife Mary 29 born Portsmouth William James Knight 38 born Burpham, W Ssx John Arthur Knight 32 born Burpham, W Ssx Fingers crossed (Tony & Linda also related to this family) from GAIL in Ontario, Canada -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/189 - Release Date: 11/30/05

Could SKS please look up on the 1861 Census for the following: George White Age 60 B. Northboro, Hants (Greywell ?) wife: Martha Age 60 B. Greywell and if there is any children with them. Thanks Carol Snowy Langley, B.C.

No trouble Cynthia - some things we can only guess at!! I did see Amelia there in Mayfair, bless her - perhaps the butler 'did it' after all!! Cheers, Patsy > Hi Patsy....Many thanks... It looks very much like Amelia's family as I > can identify Eliza & Charlotte. Amelia White has been found on 1871 census > in South St ,St Georges Hanover Sq . London as a nurserymaid aged 19. > She may well have changed her name, or the enumerator in 1861 was a trifle > deaf and heard Amelia as Maria. > Next door was a butler John Simkins , not SIMPKINS. Wonder if he was the > father of her first daughter in 1879??? Just a shot in the dark. > > Also found at the home of Dallimores in Conkswell,Bradford 1861 census a > Winifred WHITE 56 yrs lodger. Charlotte married young Henry from this > family! > > Thanks again Patsy > Cynthia > Auck NZ > > >

Hi Patsy....Many thanks... It looks very much like Amelia's family as I can identify Eliza & Charlotte. Amelia White has been found on 1871 census in South St ,St Georges Hanover Sq . London as a nurserymaid aged 19. She may well have changed her name, or the enumerator in 1861 was a trifle deaf and heard Amelia as Maria. Next door was a butler John Simkins , not SIMPKINS. Wonder if he was the father of her first daughter in 1879??? Just a shot in the dark. Also found at the home of Dallimores in Conkswell,Bradford 1861 census a Winifred WHITE 56 yrs lodger. Charlotte married young Henry from this family! Thanks again Patsy Cynthia Auck NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia O'Shea" <pkoshea@xtra.co.nz> To: <HAMPSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [Ham] Missing Rellies/brick wall > Hi Cynthia - not sure how much background you might have on your mystery > girl? > > I think you are right in thinking she is not the sister of Henry DALLIMORE > as in 1861 there is no sister in the DALLIMORE household. > > The WHITEs are a bit more tricky but if you don't have them I think this > could be the family - I'm using sister Charlotte as the key. > > 1861 Bradford on Avon, Ashley > Jonathan WHITE 43 Ag lab. B Bearfield, Wilts > Mary 39 Laundress. B Bath, Somerst > Eliza 14. B Frankleigh, Wilts > Frederick 13 Ag lab. B Stoke, Wilts > Maria 6. B Ashley, Wilts > James 7. B Ashley Wilts > George 3. B Ashley, Wilts > William 3 months. B Ashley, Wilts > Charlotte 19 Laundress. B Bath, Somerset > > Ashley seems to be part of Bradford on Avon. > > Do you suppose Maria might be Amelia? > And might this be why she cannot be found under Amelia in the BDM indexes? > Curiously there is a marriage of a Maria WHITE in Easthampstead in 1880 > but the groom is inconveniently not John SIMPKINS!! but John TUFFIN. > Although there could be a mistranscription of course > > Apologies if you have already explored this lead and found it not to be a > connection. > Cheers, Patsy - New Zealand. > > > >>I have long had a brick wall concerning my grandmother >> AMELIA EVANS previously SIMPKINS nee WHITE. >> >> I found Amelia SIMPKINS on the 1881 census in Easthampstead, Berks >> She was with her daughter ETHEL AMELIA CHARLOTTE MARY SIMPKINS at the >> home of HENRY DALLIMORE and his wife Charlotte and said to be sister of >> the head of household. Her husband JOHN SIMPKINS was not at this >> address.I am inclined to think that she was more likely to have been the >> sister-in-law of Henry as she had said her maiden name was WHITE(see >> below) >> >> She was next on the 1891( Portsea..Kingston) census as AMELIA EVANS at >> the home of DAVID EVANS (my grandfather) together with >> Ethel Amelia Charlotte Mary EVANS >> Mable EVANS >> Albert EVANS >> Georgina EVANS. >> I have ascertained that Albert & Georgina were children of David Evans >> but Mable may have been the daughter of John Simpkins.....I cannot find >> a birth cert. for her. >> >> My mother Amelia Louisa EVANS was born on 28th Dec 1882,but her birth was >> registered at the same time as the death of her mother AMELIA EVANS in >> Jan 1883 and her birth given as Jan 1883. On the birth cert her >> mother's maiden name was given as WHITE and she also stated that her >> father was GEORGE WHITE (farmer). >> >> I cannot find a marriage cert. for Amelia to either John Simpkins nor >> David Evans nor can I find a birth cert. for her either. >> >> To complicate matters still further her daughter (ETHEL)stated on her >> marriage cert, that her father was GEORGE WHITE not JOHN SIMPKINS ,but on >> a birth cert of one of her sons she stated that her maiden name was >> SIMPKINS which was correct, even tho' she was apparently known as EVANS >> during the lifetime of DAVID EVANS.!!! >> >> I don't think I have a brick wall as much as a veritable massive >> building.! >> >> HELP PLEASE!! Sorry didn't mean to shout ! >> >> > > > ==== HAMPSHIRE Mailing List ==== > practice safe text - tell the Listowners about virus worries - DON'T > SPREAD IT ON THE LIST! > >

Hi Cynthia - not sure how much background you might have on your mystery girl? I think you are right in thinking she is not the sister of Henry DALLIMORE as in 1861 there is no sister in the DALLIMORE household. The WHITEs are a bit more tricky but if you don't have them I think this could be the family - I'm using sister Charlotte as the key. 1861 Bradford on Avon, Ashley Jonathan WHITE 43 Ag lab. B Bearfield, Wilts Mary 39 Laundress. B Bath, Somerst Eliza 14. B Frankleigh, Wilts Frederick 13 Ag lab. B Stoke, Wilts Maria 6. B Ashley, Wilts James 7. B Ashley Wilts George 3. B Ashley, Wilts William 3 months. B Ashley, Wilts Charlotte 19 Laundress. B Bath, Somerset Ashley seems to be part of Bradford on Avon. Do you suppose Maria might be Amelia? And might this be why she cannot be found under Amelia in the BDM indexes? Curiously there is a marriage of a Maria WHITE in Easthampstead in 1880 but the groom is inconveniently not John SIMPKINS!! but John TUFFIN. Although there could be a mistranscription of course Apologies if you have already explored this lead and found it not to be a connection. Cheers, Patsy - New Zealand. >I have long had a brick wall concerning my grandmother > AMELIA EVANS previously SIMPKINS nee WHITE. > > I found Amelia SIMPKINS on the 1881 census in Easthampstead, Berks > She was with her daughter ETHEL AMELIA CHARLOTTE MARY SIMPKINS at the home > of HENRY DALLIMORE and his wife Charlotte and said to be sister of the > head of household. Her husband JOHN SIMPKINS was not at this address.I am > inclined to think that she was more likely to have been the sister-in-law > of Henry as she had said her maiden name was WHITE(see below) > > She was next on the 1891( Portsea..Kingston) census as AMELIA EVANS at the > home of DAVID EVANS (my grandfather) together with > Ethel Amelia Charlotte Mary EVANS > Mable EVANS > Albert EVANS > Georgina EVANS. > I have ascertained that Albert & Georgina were children of David Evans but > Mable may have been the daughter of John Simpkins.....I cannot find a > birth cert. for her. > > My mother Amelia Louisa EVANS was born on 28th Dec 1882,but her birth was > registered at the same time as the death of her mother AMELIA EVANS in Jan > 1883 and her birth given as Jan 1883. On the birth cert her mother's > maiden name was given as WHITE and she also stated that her father was > GEORGE WHITE (farmer). > > I cannot find a marriage cert. for Amelia to either John Simpkins nor > David Evans nor can I find a birth cert. for her either. > > To complicate matters still further her daughter (ETHEL)stated on her > marriage cert, that her father was GEORGE WHITE not JOHN SIMPKINS ,but on > a birth cert of one of her sons she stated that her maiden name was > SIMPKINS which was correct, even tho' she was apparently known as EVANS > during the lifetime of DAVID EVANS.!!! > > I don't think I have a brick wall as much as a veritable massive > building.! > > HELP PLEASE!! Sorry didn't mean to shout ! > >

Dear Linda and Tony, Good idea - as usual! Have been beating my brains - and Genes Reunited 1861 census - and any other ideas I have - to find this family: George James LANE, born Newchurch (?) 1832 - almost certainly son of William Lane and Kezia KENT - married Ellen SHEATH(born 1837 Thorley) in July 1856 in St George's Arreton. He was a "Coastguard man". In 1860, when he registered his son's birth, George was living at Dibden, a Stoker, HMS Dauntless. Their first child, Ellen Jane was born Portsea 1857, and the next one, William, in Dibden in 1859. There were later ones, born in East Cowes. I have them in 1871, 1881, 1891. But no sign in 1861. I think they were most likely somewhere in Hampshire in 1861, but could have been elsewhere - have tried widening the search, but no luck. If anyone can help that would be great. Can't offer a lot in return - I don't have fiches/fiche reader - but will do local Sussex research - Worthing library has a lot of Sussex information. Hampshire names on my husband/children's tree: LANE, TAYLOR, BRIDGES, FRAMPTON, REEKS, DEACON, REEVES, HUTCHIN(G)S, PITT, TANNER, CORBIN, RODGERS, WARNE, CLASBY, COMPTON, SILLEY, SCOVELL Best wishes to all, Liz At 19:39 27/11/2005, you wrote: >Hi all whoever and wherever you are in the world. >How about we suggest 2 things to start things going on the lists. >1. We ALL ask for something to be checked on or smashed down in the >genealogical sense of course) and each time someone does that that person >gets a >favour returned for them in the form of a look up or a name and it keeps >on going >so we all get something out of .......call it santa arriving early! > Elizabeth Lane Worthing West Sussex liz_lane@ntlworld.com

Hi, Can anybody help,I am trying to find the marriage of John Liney to Mary !!!! she was born in Chiselton Wiltshire but a check of the Wiltshire records found no marriages of a John Liney.Their first child Jane Liney was born in Nether Wallop in 1811. Thanks Norman Scott