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Hi Tony & Linda, that was quick, many thanks. I can now dig out the 1841 census and have a look. Can't find Thomas Long on the '51 tonight so will check Navy records at PRO. Does anyone know if the Merchant Navy also used the term 'petty officer' ? cheers Jo Martin

Hello Jo here are the full marriage details. CHU3/1B/46 St Mary's Portsea page 20 no 39 George JOHNSON of full age Bachelor Seaman 2 Colony Street & Adelaide LONG of full age Spinster 21 Gloster Street fathers Thomas JOHNSON Waterman & Thomas LONG Pety Officer married by banns George JOHNSON signed and Adelaide LONG X signed her mark in the presence of M SHEAN & X signed the mark of James SEAGER Linda & Tony

68M81 Southwick baptism Mary BRUCE daughter of William & Mary of the parish of Portsea was born Jan 29 1797 and baptised this day May 23 1799 Hope it helps,Linda & Tony

Hi Tony and Linda, can you have a look for this marriage sometime please. Adelaide was born in Plymouth c1831 and all I know so far is her mother's name (Jane LONG). Adelaide's father was absent during the 1851 census in Southampton, and dead by 1861 . Adelaide's sister Caroline is my line, but I haven't a clue where she married John HACKETT sometime around 1864 yet, so thought I'd see what Adelaide's entry says. St Marys Portsea 5 Oct 1847 George JOHNSON & Adelaide LONG IGI entry many thanks Jo Martin

Another brickwall! Henry married Susannah - I don't know where or whn. They had at least 3 children - Elizabeth born 1780, baptised Holy Trinity, Gosport Sophia born 1783 baptised St Thomas, Portsmouth Henry born 1785 baptised St Thomas, Portsmouth. I know what happened to Elizabeth - she was my 3 x great grandmother - but what happened to the other 2 children? When did Henry and Susannah marry? Who were their parents? Any information would be very gratefully accepted! Jean

Does anyone have any information on Sarah? She was baptised on 3 August 1813 at St John Portsea, the daughter of William KINGSTON and Elizabeth JOHNSON. I have never found her on any census or a marriage or a death. He mother died in 1839 and her father had moved to Wales by 1841. Has anyone founf anything on Sarah? Many thanks Jean

George is one of my brickwalls and I am hoping someone can find what happened to him. He was born 1810 in Portsea and was baptised 29 December 1810 at St Mary's. He was the son of William KINGSTON and Elizabeth JOHNSON who married in 1803 in Alverstoke. I have found out what happened to the rest of the family but George has just disappeared. I have never found him on any census or found a death or a marriage. Has anyone any knowledge on him? I appreciate any help. Jean

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Edna - Ottawa ************* Here is a poem for me: Oh where oh where is my WJH oh where oh where can he be oh where oh where is my WJH oh stop playing silly B's with me! Oh where oh where is my WJH I've looked and he cannot be found oh where oh where is my WJH me thinks he is underground Oh where oh where is my WJH run over by a horse & cart oh where oh where is my WJH of course he's with his tart oh where oh where is my WJH If I dig him up he'll be smelly Oh where oh where is my WJH was that him in Pepper Alley Oh where oh where is my WJH A common Plumber by trade Oh where oh where is my WJH probably next door with the maid Oh where oh where is my WJH If he's still alive he'd be smellier Oh what else can you expect from a HELLYER) Poem by L&T of LocksHeath 2004

All I want for Christmas is my Great-grandfather Wm. James Hellyer (1854-c1891). (Cannot find William's death/burial date - from checked 1885 -1915) He was not buried in Highland Rd. Kingston, nor Milton, nor Mile End Cemeteries - 1886-1915- records checked by Portsmouth Govt. Office. The Hampshire Record Office checked the National Probate Calendars & with York 1891-1897, no Wills listed. Portsmouth Cemetery Office also checked 1884-1915 and no Wm. James Hellyer. Looked at Ann's Hill Gosport Burials 1897-1904, to no avail. Checked St. George's Parish, Waterloo, saw a MI for Wm. James Hellyer age 30? . Saw a Death, 1st Qtr 1891- 2b, 354 Portsea (vol &page) age 30 -died 11th Feb. (Birth of this WJH#2 lst Qtr 1861 2b 343 or March 3, 1861 at Westbourne). Also a marriage of a WJH and Annie New in (20th May 1889 St.Andrews) 2nd Qtr 1889 2b 725 Havant) The NEW family of Hambledon lived in Farlington during '81 Census, & WJH #2 at White Hart Inn in Farlington. our William would have been 37. Could be a transcription error. Have death cert. for this one cert. for 11 Feb 1891 Waterlooville. Edna checked through the '81 Census to see if another WJH fit but none did. This particular WJH was buried with his sister Amelia Kate Hellyer in 1883, she was 12 at the time and died 1st Qtr '83 2b 283 Havant. She was born 1st Qtr 1871 Vol 2b 381 Westbourne actually at Forestside with Stanstead, on the 12 Jan 1871, parents William (a labourer) & Sarah Hellyer. Kate was living with family in Stoughton north of Westbourne, Sussex in 1871 just three months old. This is not my WJH. Still looking for Great-grandpa.... Sniffle, Edna - Ottawa

http://www.hants.gov.uk/record-office/whatson.html Linda and Tony

An interesting bit of info for those at the beginning etc of their family history on genes,traits and others http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/genes/basics/intro.shtml Linda & Tony

Morning all ok well do continue putting your concrete barriers in family history and smaller brickwall problems on. As well as these we would suggest ideas for your Christmas most wanted whether a site or whatever but please to avoid problems with rootsweb no prices. If you supply the site these should then be sufficient for us all to take a look and get stuck where appropriate. Before you think we have swallowwed a dictionary we will leave you to put your santa most wanted on etc. and look forward to seeing you all. Hope you're all having a great weekend those of us who aren't shopping). Linda and Tony

Perhaps we occasionally wonder what the weather was like in times gone by in a certain part of the Country.Well you can here.. http://www.net-weather.co.uk/index.cgi?action=other;type=winthist;sess= Linda & Tony

Hi Mary Margaret Thanks for the additional information about Harry. I have been to see an elderly neighbour who has always lived in North Wales and who has an interest in military history. He has told me about 2 military camps in the area. 1. Wrexham in Denbighshire (just across the border from Flintshire) which is a garrison town. 2. Kinmel Park in Flintshire He is going to consult another friend to see if he can find out when the camps were established and this person also has a keen interest in sport and may be able to provide more information about cricket teams in the area. It may take a few days before I get any answers. Gill

http://www.ancestrysolutions.com/default.htm Edna - Ottawa

Taken from another list ~~ with lots of great links: http://www.wartimememories.co.uk/main.html Edna - Ottawa

Hi Don Thanks for the reply. The I.O.W. list has helped me find the people I listed but I have not been able to find the marriage of Richard Lane & Mary Ann Storey abt. 1837 Northwood? the baptism of Ann Sheath & therefore her parents abt. 1761 Carisbrooke? the marriage of William Saunders & Phoebe abt. 1799. Newchurch ? Gill

Hi Linda & Tony - Thanks so much for clearing up the "Flintshire" question for me - Please see my previous message to Peter - the 1st Boer War was actually 1881-1882 - I have all my gr uncle's letters from his camp there at Ajuba Camp, Newcastle, Natal, S. Africa.- describing the various battles - & the famous saying "Remember Majuba Hill" was based on the great defeat of the British by the Boers at that battle (in which my gr uncle participated)- apparently all the fault of one of their commander's gross miscalculations. Harry was born in Ireland ( Francis Henry Halsey (Home) Dickson), as his father was stationed there with the 6th Lt Dragoons (Carabineers) at the Curragh Camp - but the family did live originally in Southampton - his uncle Peter Dickson was mayor of Southampton in 1841. sincerely Mary Margaret

Hi Peter - Harry Home was in South Africa - in 1881 - Regimental Sergeant Major then Quarter Master Sergeant in the Cape Mounted Infantry - 1st Battalion, Prince of Wales Leinster Regiment - in the First Boer War - I have all his letters written home- stationed in Ajuba Camp, Newcastle, Natal, S.Africa - regarding all the battles he fought in - including Liang Nek, Ingogo, & Majuba Hill (earning 5 shillings a day!) - apparently also enjoying playing cricket and deer hunting in his "free time". sincerely Mary Margaret