I believe the National Archives service records only start from 1873 as far as on line records are concerned from the web site it says the Certificates of service are in ADM records from 1802 are held there and available in the original form, the have a microfilm alphabetical index which give the certificate numbers so you will need someone to go there for you if you can't go yourself. Paying a researcher is a good idea but often not an option for some and then you have to make sure they are reputable there have been a few who have made up stories in the past but mostly about much older ancestors. I have been told the best thing is to seek the recommendation of the local Family History Society unless you know someone who has used one. I was lucky I found distant cousins through Genesreunited and the Roots county list who had done a lot of hands on work and were kind enough to share details and documents with me but I still went back,- I have direct family members there did some research but it is time consuming,. met some of my helpful cousins and visited the villages where my ancestors came from, which was an experience standing in a 1500's inn knowing my 9th great g/g probably used it, I wouldn't have missed it for anything Irene ----- Original Message ----- From: "liverpud" <[email protected]> To: "Hampshire-L" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 1:05 AM Subject: [HAM] [PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT] Greenwich Pensioners & MIDLANE > Hi, > > Researchers: I had three of my naval grandparents searched & paid a > researcher. By the time one fiddles, it's best to have someone look at > Kew. I know it's pricey but cheaper than airfare, B&B etc. > > Good Luck, > > Edna - sunny Ottawa >

I think my 6g-grandparents may be Joseph Keeping & Alice Pack who married at Milton 23/5/1763. IGI has extracted entries which have Alice's parents as Thomas Paik and Alice Footner m 26/12/1734 and Alice bap 4/3/1707. I wonder if anyone else is interested in these families ? Any comments really appreciated. Regards Francis Auckland, NZ

My 5g-grandfather is Charles Chater/Cheater and I think his parents could be Charles & Ann Philpot who married at Fordingbridge 30/8/1763. I wonder if anyone has an interest in these families. Any comments really appreciated. Regards Francis Auckland, NZ

I wonder if ayone has an interest in this family. My 5g-grandmother is Elizabeth Penn who married Charles Chater at Breamore in 1792. I think she is the daughter of John & Hannah Francis m 1773 at Breamore. Any comments really appreciated. Regards Francis Auckland, NZ

I have discovered that John KINGSTON who worked in Portsmouth Dockyard for a while was married to a Mary. On the IGI, I found a John KINGSTON who married a Mary GRANT in Portsea on 18 September 1808. this couple possible had three children: William born 1810 baptised 24 August 1811 at St Mary's Portsea Mary Tucker KINGSTON baptised 27 December 1818 at St John Portsea James Tucker KINGSTON baptised at the same time as Mary. Does anyone have anything further on this family? Clues might be witnesses to the wedding or the Father's occupation. John KINGSTON was the brother of William KINGSTON who was a master Millwright at Portsmouth Dockyard and I am trying to discover if this was the right John. Any information would be extremely helpful. Many thanks Jean PS I have checked the Knightroots site but couldn't find anything. All outgoing messages checked by AVG virus checker No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1302 - Release Date: 27/02/2008 16:34

Thank you Angie for the lookup and the information. I might take your advice and write to the address you supplied and see if I get a response. Once again, thank you so much for the information.Carol _________________________________________________________________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx

If you use your search engine for Midhurst Sussex burials there is info, on there. Best wishes Val -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of liverpud Sent: 28 February 2008 16:27 To: Hampshire-L Subject: [HAM] HELLYER/HELLIER William James d. 1894 Midhurst Hi, If someone died c.1894 in Midhurst area, where would he be most likely buried. Please reply off-list Thank you, Edna- Ottawa For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1302 - Release Date: 27/02/2008 16:34

Hi, Thanks Val. Will try that. Edna - Ottawa --- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Barber" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [HAM] HELLYER/HELLIER William James d. 1894 Midhurst If you use your search engine for Midhurst Sussex burials there is info, on there. Best wishes Val -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of liverpud Sent: 28 February 2008 16:27 To: Hampshire-L Subject: [HAM] HELLYER/HELLIER William James d. 1894 Midhurst Hi, If someone died c.1894 in Midhurst area, where would he be most likely buried. Please reply off-list Thank you, Edna- Ottawa

Hi Carol, In an attempt to help I did a check with Royal Mail online to establish the postcode, then tried BT online. The full postal address is as follows, however there was no listing for your Stephens with BT. That may mean that the number is ex-directory, or perhaps there are no telephone connections available in a mobile home park. Of course he may not be there at all. 41 King Edward Mobile Home Park Baddesley Road North Baddesley SOUTHAMPTON SO52 9JU I haven't helped much but at least you have a postal address to write to if you want to take that route. Regards, Angie -----Original Message----- From: Carol Stephens [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Mittwoch, 27. Februar 2008 23:42 To: Hampshire England Mailing List Subject: [HAM] Colin Stephens Hi List, I have just received a death certficate for James Abbott Stephens who passed away on January 6, 1995 in Fleming House, Heron Square, Eastleigh and it states that his son, Colin Stephens was the informant. His address was 41 King Edward Park, Baddesley Road, Flexford, Hampshire. Could anyone let me know if Colin Stephens is still at this address or if anyone knows where he might live now. Thank you in advance, Carol _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/

Hi, If someone died c.1894 in Midhurst area, where would he be most likely buried. Please reply off-list Thank you, Edna- Ottawa

Hi, Researchers: I had three of my naval grandparents searched & paid a researcher. By the time one fiddles, it's best to have someone look at Kew. I know it's pricey but cheaper than airfare, B&B etc. Good Luck, Edna - sunny Ottawa --- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Middleton" <[email protected]> I have found the following ancestor: John MIDLANE, born abt 1793, Brading, Isle of Wight. By 1815, he was in Portsea. In 1823 he was described as a Mariner. On the 1851 census, he is a Greenwich Pensioner, and in 1861, shortly before he died, he was a Carpenter and Joiner (Naval Pension). I believe that there should be a record of his naval service and being a Greenwich pensioner, and that these are held by The National Archives. I have tried searching their website, but I find it quite complicated and haven't come up with any results that could be him. Am I looking in the right place? Can anyone help me find out about his service or pension? Is anyone else researching the name MIDLANE? Thanks, Sarah ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List, I have just received a death certficate for James Abbott Stephens who passed away on January 6, 1995 in Fleming House, Heron Square, Eastleigh and it states that his son, Colin Stephens was the informant. His address was 41 King Edward Park, Baddesley Road, Flexford, Hampshire. Could anyone let me know if Colin Stephens is still at this address or if anyone knows where he might live now. Thank you in advance, Carol _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/

>I am researching the LAVENDER family of Portsea & WORTHINGTON of Ropley. > > I would be grateful for any suggestions to help me (and a fellow > researcher), resolve this problem. Bear with me while I set out the twists > & turns of this story. > > Edward LAVENDER was a tailor who married Elizabeth NOBES at St Thomas > Portsea in 1843. > > I am interested in Lydia LAVENDER, their daughter born in 1851. > > Lydia had 2 children, Edward Albert & Robert Henry (or Henry Robert) in > 1874 & 1875, whose father on their birth certificates is shown as Henry > WORTHINGTON of HMS Crocodile.. > > However, Lydia didn't appear to officially marry any WORTHINGTON, but a > Michael WORTHINGTON did marry a Sarah LAVENDER (dau of Edward & Eliz > LAVENDER on the certificate) in 1872 at the Parish Church of Portsea. > Michael WORTHINGTON was on the same RN ship (HMS Crocodile), as William > LAVENDER, son of Edward & Eliz LAVENDER. > > However, this SARAH LAVENDER does not appear to exist (except for 1871 > census) on the censuses or in the BMD records. In 1871 coincidentally, > LYDIA is missing from the census. > > Lydia is a widow on the 1881 census, living with her 2 boys, with her > parents, & gives her surname as WORTHINGTON. > > On Michael WORTHINGTON's death cert, Lydia is named as wife. After > Michael's death, she has her 2 boys baptised (records from Porsmouth > record office) which shows Michael WORTHINGTON as the boys' father. > > However, on the boys' marriages, they give their father as Robert Henry or > Henry Robert. Also note that Michael WORTHINGTON (from Ropley) has a > brother ROBERT. > > My fellow researcher seems to think Lydia changed her name to Sarah, & > then changed back because of a scandal. I haven't found another marriage > for her, so bigamy doesn't seem on the cards. NB She did marry again > later. > > As a point of interest, there was another Sarah LAVENDER, possibly a > cousin, who by then was married and living in India with her soldier > husband. > > Any suggestions welcome. > > Penny Courtney > >

Hi, Would anyone have access to the Death/Burial Registers for Midhurst? Re: Death - William James Hellier age 35 2nd Qtr 1894 2b 223 Midhurst Please reply off-list. Thank you, Edna - Ottawa

Hi Marilyn, There's a Denis Farrell showing up in the 1851 census in the Parish of Portsea and he is a private in the 95 Regiment. He was born in Robertstown, Kildare, Ireland. Age 25. Is this the one you are looking for? He is the only one that shows up. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:43 AM Subject: [HAM] 1851 census lookup FARRELL > Would skp be able to look up Denis Farrell born 1826 on the 1851 census. > Also, anyone else in the household. > Thanks, Marilyn > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1297 - Release Date: > 2/25/2008 9:22 AM > > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at > www.knightroots.co.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.0/1296 - Release Date: > 24/02/2008 12:19 PM >

Image sent off list also! Liz DISCLAIMER "This message is confidential and is intended only for the use of the person(s) "the intended recipient" to whom it is addressed. It may contain information that is privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and contact the sender as soon as possible. You should not retain the message or disclose its contents to anyone. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer Intended recipient(s) must check e mails, including attachments, for viruses. ********************************************************************** -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jane Gledhill Sent: 25 February 2008 23:52 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HAM] BEARMAN, Ellen b. circa 1860 on '81 Census Image sent off list Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "liverpud" <[email protected]> To: "Hampshire-L" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:26 PM Subject: [HAM] BEARMAN, Ellen b. circa 1860 on '81 Census > Hi, Could someone please send me the details pertaining to > this lady living on the '81 at 28 Clarence Parade, Southsea. > > Thanks kindly, > > Edna - Ottawa > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at > www.knightroots.co.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 895 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Image sent off list Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "liverpud" <[email protected]> To: "Hampshire-L" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:26 PM Subject: [HAM] BEARMAN, Ellen b. circa 1860 on '81 Census > Hi, Could someone please send me the details pertaining to > this lady living on the '81 at 28 Clarence Parade, Southsea. > > Thanks kindly, > > Edna - Ottawa > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at > www.knightroots.co.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Births Dec 1860 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- BEARMAN Ellen Portsea 2b 372 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of liverpud Sent: 25 February 2008 23:27 To: Hampshire-L Subject: [HAM] BEARMAN, Ellen b. circa 1860 on '81 Census Hi, Could someone please send me the details pertaining to this lady living on the '81 at 28 Clarence Parade, Southsea. Thanks kindly, Edna - Ottawa For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 895 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Hi Edna I've just sent some stuff over, is that what you wanted - sorry I assumed. Best wishes Liz DISCLAIMER "This message is confidential and is intended only for the use of the person(s) "the intended recipient" to whom it is addressed. It may contain information that is privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and contact the sender as soon as possible. You should not retain the message or disclose its contents to anyone. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer Intended recipient(s) must check e mails, including attachments, for viruses. ********************************************************************** -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of liverpud Sent: 25 February 2008 23:27 To: Hampshire-L Subject: [HAM] BEARMAN, Ellen b. circa 1860 on '81 Census Hi, Could someone please send me the details pertaining to this lady living on the '81 at 28 Clarence Parade, Southsea. Thanks kindly, Edna - Ottawa For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 895 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 895 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Hi Ron: He just may be the one - he married in 1853 age 28 - listed as a soldier, residence in 1853 was New Alresford. His father was Michael. Since you mention he was with the 95 Regiment. I presume he would have been 'on base' in 1851. Thanks, Marilyn ------------------------------ Hi Marilyn, There's a Denis Farrell showing up in the 1851 census in the Parish of Portsea and he is a private in the 95 Regiment. He was born in Robertstown, Kildare, Ireland. Age 25. Is this the one you are looking for? He is the only one that shows up. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:43 AM Subject: [HAM] 1851 census lookup FARRELL > Would skp be able to look up Denis Farrell born 1826 on the 1851 census. > Also, anyone else in the household. > Thanks, Marilyn > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1297 - Release Date: > 2/25/2008 9:22 AM > > For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at > www.knightroots.co.uk > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.0/1296 - Release Date: > 24/02/2008 12:19 PM > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:23:33 -0000 From: "Rose Conway" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [HAM] 1851 census lookup FARRELL To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Sorry haven't got access to 1851 but 1841 and 1861 show Denis at 2 Little Foxlow St Bermondsey 1841 residents Dennis age 47 head Harriot 40 wife Margaret 20 dau Catherine 18 dau Mary 16 dau DENNIS 14 son Jane 12 dau Cornelious 7 son Johana 3 dau 1861 residents Dennis 71 head Ann 60 wife ( 2nd , Harriot must have died) DENNIS 33 unm son Cornelious 26 unm son Charles 18 unm son I looks as though they were probably there in 1851 too. Dennis Cornelious and Charles were all employed as Dock Labourers. Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 6:43 PM Subject: [HAM] 1851 census lookup FARRELL > Would skp be able to look up Denis Farrell born 1826 on the 1851 census. > Also, anyone else in the household. > Thanks, Marilyn > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:26:50 -0500 From: "liverpud" <[email protected]> Subject: [HAM] BEARMAN, Ellen b. circa 1860 on '81 Census To: "Hampshire-L" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, Could someone please send me the details pertaining to this lady living on the '81 at 28 Clarence Parade, Southsea. Thanks kindly, Edna - Ottawa ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:44:54 -0000 From: "Choices Hire Services" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [HAM] BEARMAN, Ellen b. circa 1860 on '81 Census To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAjr4oU9F9/0ST1NgWqpkxUsKA [email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Edna I've just sent some stuff over, is that what you wanted - sorry I assumed. Best wishes Liz DISCLAIMER "This message is confidential and is intended only for the use of the person(s) "the intended recipient" to whom it is addressed. It may contain information that is privileged. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and contact the sender as soon as possible. You should not retain the message or disclose its contents to anyone. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer Intended recipient(s) must check e mails, including attachments, for viruses. ********************************************************************** -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of liverpud Sent: 25 February 2008 23:27 To: Hampshire-L Subject: [HAM] BEARMAN, Ellen b. circa 1860 on '81 Census Hi, Could someone please send me the details pertaining to this lady living on the '81 at 28 Clarence Parade, Southsea. Thanks kindly, Edna - Ottawa For FREE online parish register transcriptions visit the Hampshire OPC at www.knightroots.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 895 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 895 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. 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